has anyone been to San Diego and not wanted to move out there?

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JulesMaximus

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The thing about San Diego that I always found interesting is that people from outside of California who visit it think its the best place ever yet the majority of people who live in the rest of the state do not think its anything special.

My wife grew up in Torrance, she is a native Californian. I am from upstate NY and moved to Los Angeles 25 years ago and met my wife shortly thereafter. We moved down here in 1997 and we much prefer San Diego to L.A. but there are parts of Orange County I could live in too.

Given the choice to live anywhere else in the country I'd still rather live here.

BTW-All of my family is back east. I'm the only one on the west coast. My wife's family is up in the Redondo Beach/Torrance area. I lived and worked in the Los Angeles area for 7 years and we have friends and family there so we end up going there frequently but we definitely prefer San Diego. I've talked to my wife about moving back up there but she doesn't have any interest in moving back up to L.A.
 
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MustISO

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San Diego and Malibu are two place in CA I'd want to live if I had the funding to do so. Hawaii is in my top 3.
 

Double Trouble

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I'm in SD fairly regularly for work and conferences. Nice place for a visit, and the weather is very nice, but there's no way in the world I'd want to live there. Housing prices are insane, traffic sucks, half the place (if not more) speaks spanish, multiple time zones away from people I care about - no thanks, not for me, no desire to live there at all.
 

Paladin

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What ever you do, just because we're part of "SoCal", don't lump us in with Los Angeles. Most of us here can't stand it up there.

For a large city I believe our traffic isn't on the 'bad' side. Sometimes it definitely sucks, as it could anywhere.
Double Trouble, not sure where you were, but half of us don't speak Spanish, unless you count the 3 years we all took in middle/high school.

I think we get spoiled here, but as a native I certainly don't take advantage of all the benefits as I should.

Yes, housing prices (now) sucks. Luckily I first bought into the market in 1998.
 

Paladin

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I'm not sure I could ever settle down somewhere that didn't have a real autumn season.

Oh it's real. I love Autumn here. Mild days, chilly nights. I just had to shut the window, getting cold, in the low 60s, upper 50s right now.
:biggrin:
 

purbeast0

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Oh it's real. I love Autumn here. Mild days, chilly nights. I just had to shut the window, getting cold, in the low 60s, upper 50s right now.
:biggrin:

the only thing my friends were saying is they miss the trees and the leaves changing colors and all of that.

but being able to go to the beach to hang out and go fishing in november ... yeah, i'd take that any day of the week instead of cold weather and leaves changing.
 

Paladin

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the only thing my friends were saying is they miss the trees and the leaves changing colors and all of that.

but being able to go to the beach to hang out and go fishing in november ... yeah, i'd take that any day of the week instead of cold weather and leaves changing.

And fresh, awesome, craft beer everywhere.... :awe:
We have some liquid amber trees in our neighborhood. When we have cooler summers they turn nice and red. But, no, nothing like back east. My wife is from Ohio, and loves the color in the fall....
 
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It's nice and I wouldn't complain if I lived there but I like having a full range of weather myself. Spending time on the beaches would be awesome but other than that it just seemed like a typical decently sized American city. Just happens to have ridiculously pleasant weather nearly constantly so you'd get to enjoy the beaches pretty much year round.

Get this though, the time I was there, and this was late December (between Christmas and NYE) it was actually warmer in Northeast Kansas. The people we were with in San Diego were like "sorry the weather is so shit right now" when it was just cool, like 50s-60s (but still sunny and not crazy windy or anything) with dipping into the 40s at night. For some reason Kansas was having like 70 degree weather.
 

Ns1

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It's nice and I wouldn't complain if I lived there but I like having a full range of weather myself. Spending time on the beaches would be awesome but other than that it just seemed like a typical decently sized American city. Just happens to have ridiculously pleasant weather nearly constantly so you'd get to enjoy the beaches pretty much year round.

Get this though, the time I was there, and this was late December (between Christmas and NYE) it was actually warmer in Northeast Kansas. The people we were with in San Diego were like "sorry the weather is so shit right now" when it was just cool, like 50s-60s (but still sunny and not crazy windy or anything) with dipping into the 40s at night. For some reason Kansas was having like 70 degree weather.

Prob the same year the President visited and commented "it's actually warmer in DC right now"
 

JulesMaximus

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Oh it's real. I love Autumn here. Mild days, chilly nights. I just had to shut the window, getting cold, in the low 60s, upper 50s right now.
:biggrin:

Some of the local trees drop their leaves. And yes, I had to shut the window tonight too. It's rough living here. At least I haven't had to do anything as drastic as turn the heat on yet though thank god.
 

Belegost

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Some of the local trees drop their leaves. And yes, I had to shut the window tonight too. It's rough living here. At least I haven't had to do anything as drastic as turn the heat on yet though thank god.

Yes, but it's no fun running the AC in January either...
 

sportage

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I moved out in 1979 from the Midwest when San Diego was still a sleepy little touristy town.
Lived there for some 13 years.
Yes it was truly fantastic.
Blacks beach. Hang gliders. Julian just minutes away. L.A. just two hours away. TJ just a short drive away. Balboa Park. UTC. And the occasional weekend getaway to Palm Springs.
Oh, and how can I forget, that Laguna beach holiday.

I was lucky to have a great job, just needed one, with plenty of money, and lots of free time to enjoy living in paradise.
But watching others work three and four jobs just to make ends meet, was very sad.
People wanted to move there, but found employment hard to find and housing extremely costly.

San Diego is a weird place, in that it is like the melting pot of the wealthy.
You could be in your 30's, working three jobs, driving a 15 year old car, just trying to survive San Diego.
Then you pull up to a stop light and look to the side, and there you notice some 20 year old kid in a brand new $80,000 Mercedes, dressed like a million dollars, and you wonder what the hell am I doing wrong???????????

Then you have the weather. And the forecast that never changed.
"Night and morning fog along the coast, followed by a high of 72."
Sounds great?
But day after day after day after day? Forever? Seemingly forever?
If you miss the seasonal changes and like a little variety in your weather, living in constant paradise can get a little nerve racking.

I lured several friends and relatives to San Diego, and sadly watched them become very distraught with scraping to make a living, fighting to survive, working several jobs, living in dumps in the worst areas of town, and still with little if any free time or money to enjoy paradise.

I was both extremely blessed and lucky. But that was my situation. Few others experienced that joy.
And more often than not, end up with having to work themselves to death just to scrape by.

My advice to anyone moving to San Diego is to have a solid plan i.e. enough money to get by for a full year, high employ-ability, a strong education, and a lot of luck.
And also, have an exit plan just in case things do not work out.

I actually had one friend from New Jersey living in my garage, homeless, for weeks before he realized San Diego just was not going to work out. No job. No hope. No money.
I paid for his airplane ticket back to N.J.

Yes, San Diego is and can be your paradise. But also your nightmare.
And the San Diego of today is not the San Diego of 1979 by a long shot.
Traffic is awful. Housing very expensive. Crime is pretty bad. And new construction is way out of control.
Living in San Diego is a lot like living in Hawaii.
Great, possibly, for a year or two, but then it can get to you.
Especially if you find yourself working three and four jobs just to get by.
At some point you have to wonder, is it all worth it?

The idea is to live foot lose and fancy free in paradise, with the time and money to enjoy.
That, sadly, seldom is the reality.
You end up working your ass off, with having no time or money to enjoy life.

And if you decide to give it a shot, and actually do move to paradise, try to resist the knee jerk temptation to live in the beach areas.
Every new comer wants to live at the beach. BAD IDEA !!!!
Traffic is terrible in and out, crime is unbelievable, and the housing value you get for the cost is nutz. I've actually seen several beach-area home owners put carpet down in their garage, call it a efficiency apartment, and expect $800-$1000 for rent.
$1000 a month to live in someones garage, just to live at the beach?
Well, at least within 15 blocks of...

I was extremely lucky with San Diego.
An once in a lifetime experience.
But I do not miss it.
I experienced it to its fullest. And that was enough.
Not too little, not too much. Just enough.
 
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aircooled

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I love SD. Folks lived there for a bit and I visited a lot. Just too damn expensive to live there for me.
 

doubledeluxe

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I knew I was going to move there almost immediately. Took a few years but I did it. Took a job elsewhere years later but moved back for a second time afterwards. I imagine there will be a third time before I die.
 

Riparian

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Nowhere in rednas' post did he specify "bumfuck nowhere"; that was your assumption (unless Los Angeles = "different strokes").

His post was saying that people from bumfuck nowhere (i.e., people visiting from the cornfields of Iowa) are probably more impressed by San Diego when they come to visit because there is little to do when you're in bumfuck nowhere when compared to what you can do in SD. This would be as opposed to rednas' visiting SD from OC or LA where there's equally nice weather and amount of things to do, thus making SD less impressive to them.

The way purbeast worded is post was a bit unclear but if you re-read it, you'll see that's what he meant.
 

Pocatello

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I've visited SD a few times, a beautiful city. I wouldn't mind living there, but it's not my favorite place.
 
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