Has anyone gone from a Windows 7 machine to an Apple and thought OMG...

[Rubycon]

Home users should learn how to image their systems. 7 has it built in and it even preserves partition alignment.

This is true for ANY system user regardless of OS.

Make no mistake about it! Hard disk reliability is in the can these days. Non enterprise disks are pitiful and die way too soon and often without warning of any sorts.

 

[HAL9000]

Home users should learn how to image their systems. 7 has it built in and it even preserves partition alignment.

This is true for ANY system user regardless of OS.

Make no mistake about it! Hard disk reliability is in the can these days. Non enterprise disks are pitiful and die way too soon and often without warning of any sorts.

Very true, OSX Is always Imaged on my Mac's but I don't need drive reliability in windows as i constantly format.

 

[n7]

When i go from Windows anything to OSX, i'm always thinking OMG @ how annoyingly anti-power user it is, & how retarded doing simple things are.

 

[HAL9000]

When i go from Windows anything to OSX, i'm always thinking OMG @ how annoyingly anti-power user it is, & how retarded doing simple things are.

Anti power?

Actually when you get into Mac OS, when you don't need to find out how to do things it's so much more simple to do simple things, for example installing an app in OSX requires you to drag the app to the applications folder, to uninstall drag it to the trash.

 

[n7]

Anti power?

Actually when you get into Mac OS, when you don't need to find out how to do things it's so much more simple to do simple things, for example installing an app in OSX requires you to drag the app to the applications folder, to uninstall drag it to the trash.

If only dragging them into the trash actually fully removed all apps...

 

[HAL9000]

If only dragging them into the trash actually fully removed all apps...

Generally it does, unlike uninstalling applications in windows, which leaves everything.

 

[Chaotic42]

When?

When you said that you're dicking around in the registry, removing what some consider to be vital system components... If you get a virus or malware on your Windows 7 machine, well, you're doing it wrong.

 

[HAL9000]

When you said that you're dicking around in the registry, removing what some consider to be vital system components... If you get a virus or malware on your Windows 7 machine, well, you're doing it wrong.

Oh yeah I remember doin....

No.

 

[JS80]

I made my first mac purchase. Bought the macbook air for my wife for xmas. Will let you know.

 

[RavenSEAL]

Yes...yes...i remember what i said when i got my first Mac Latop...

"OMG this shit sucks mom, get me a refund now!"

 

[HeXen]

if its really PEBKAC, then you would have similar problems with other OS's. Most of Windows problems lies in 3rd party software and drivers causing corruptions.
Example, just today i installed Explorer Tabs which is an app to put tabbed file browsing in Explorer just like Xplore2..etc. at first it seemed to work, but the tabs were finicky, soon it screwed up Windows pretty bad with unhandled exceptions and other errors. this stuff can happen with most any app/driver and wether it does or not could be caused by many variables, not just the user cause computers are tools made to be used, you should beable to just open something or run an installer and it should just work.

the whole registry really needs to go, anything and everything makes changes or adds to it constantly. Thats why i much prefer portable apps.

 

[HAL9000]

if its really PEBKAC, then you would have similar problems with other OS's. Most of Windows problems lies in 3rd party software and drivers causing corruptions.
Example, just today i installed Explorer Tabs which is an app to put tabbed file browsing in Explorer just like Xplore2..etc. at first it seemed to work, but the tabs were finicky, soon it screwed up Windows pretty bad with unhandled exceptions and other errors. this stuff can happen with most any app/driver and wether it does or not could be caused by many variables, not just the user cause computers are tools made to be used, you should beable to just open something or run an installer and it should just work.

the whole registry really needs to go, anything and everything makes changes or adds to it constantly. Thats why i much prefer portable apps.

This and This.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Anti power?

Actually when you get into Mac OS, when you don't need to find out how to do things it's so much more simple to do simple things, for example installing an app in OSX requires you to drag the app to the applications folder, to uninstall drag it to the trash.

apparently you don't understand what a power user is

Apple chose to go the drag and drop route to cater to the people who couldn't find the any key.

 

[QueBert]

apparently you don't understand what a power user is

Apple chose to go the drag and drop route to cater to the people who couldn't find the any key.

OSX has a full unix terminal, sorry but to even say Windows 7 is as close to as powerful for power users is hilarious. The GUI might be simple to use, but when you get into an actual Terminal screen, Windows wishes it could be as powerful. Also the way it does things, like installing/uninstalling programs and no registry to worry about just work better. And Time Machine is great, I wonder why MS didn't add something similar to Windows 7. I can't even find a program to buy for Win 7 that's as good as Time Machine.

 

[HAL9000]

apparently you don't understand what a power user is

Apple chose to go the drag and drop route to cater to the people who couldn't find the any key.

Apparently you don't understand what a power user is, choosing one method to uninstall apps over another, doesn't exclude power users...?!

 

[HAL9000]

OSX has a full unix terminal, sorry but to even say Windows 7 is as close to as powerful for power users is hilarious. The GUI might be simple to use, but when you get into an actual Terminal screen, Windows wishes it could be as powerful. Also the way it does things, like installing/uninstalling programs and no registry to worry about just work better. And Time Machine is great, I wonder why MS didn't add something similar to Windows 7. I can't even find a program to buy for Win 7 that's as good as Time Machine.

This. x10000

 

[erikistired]

When i go from Windows anything to OSX, i'm always thinking OMG @ how annoyingly anti-power user it is, & how retarded doing simple things are.

that's got to be one of the most ignorant things i've ever read on this forum. on this TECH forum. is unix anti-power user as well? command line what?

Generally it does, unlike uninstalling applications in windows, which leaves everything.

i like to believe that, but it actually leaves files behind. usually just preference files, but sometimes more. it's not like it's hard to get an uninstaller tho. what it normally doesn't leave behind is crap that can muck up your OS like windows based programs can do.

 

[HAL9000]

that's got to be one of the most ignorant things i've ever read on this forum. on this TECH forum. is unix anti-power user as well? command line what?

This.

i like to believe that, but it actually leaves files behind. usually just preference files, but sometimes more. it's not like it's hard to get an uninstaller tho. what it normally doesn't leave behind is crap that can muck up your OS like windows based programs can do.

True, that's why I said generally, if your talking about lil apps, self contained packages then it wont be an issue but if it's something bigger like Photoshop then yeah....

 

[Fallingwater]

The Windows registry is made of concentrated evil. I still don't quite understand why apps don't keep their settings in ini files like they used to - I don't recall having issues with them when they did that.

Thank goodness we have portable editions of many useful programs - I use those whenever I can.

 

[HAL9000]

The Windows registry is made of concentrated evil. I still don't quite understand why apps don't keep their settings in ini files like they used to - I don't recall having issues with them when they did that.

Thank goodness we have portable editions of many useful programs - I use those whenever I can.

I could not agree more, why an operating system in this day and age is still dependent on something so archaic and centralized I have no idea.

 

[halik]

I'm not bashing OSX, but I'm curious to know in what ways you are so much more productive with it than you would be with Windows 7.

Bash, darwinports, X11 etc. - you get all the upside of linux with a much better UI. The unix back end is an enormous boost for the stuff I do at home.

I'm not gonna lie though, Microsoft did a terrific job with .NET and integration with excel and such. For work related things in windows environment, you cannot beat it.

I should add, you do have to mess around with the registry in Win 7 - for example Outlook 2003 won't open attachments by default in win 7 (saves them someplace stupid). Also backup in win7 doesn't rotate the files by default either and there's no functionality to do this - I had to write a batch script to delete the old file before every backup.

 

[halik]

When i go from Windows anything to OSX, i'm always thinking OMG @ how annoyingly anti-power user it is, & how retarded doing simple things are.

Never used a unix box in your life, eh? Your definition of "power user" must be themed-out windows with some explorer.exe replacement...

 

[Adul]

Another positive aspect of OS X is the lack of malware and viruses. One time on my PC I browsed a legitimate site and one of the ads opened adobe acrobat in the background and injected malware. With a mac, you don't really have to worry about any of that.

Just don't be ignorant to think that there aren't any to worry about. There are plenty of mac drones out there to.

 

[halik]

Just don't be ignorant to think that there aren't any to worry about. There are plenty of mac drones out there to.

Windows is actually quite a bit more secure than OSX (randomized stack, non-execute blocks etc), but macs make a lot smaller target

 

[HAL9000]

Just don't be ignorant to think that there aren't any to worry about. There are plenty of mac drones out there to.

Yeah but when you say plenty you maybe mean 50,000, compared to windows 5,000,000...