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Fenixgoon

Lifer
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maximize button that does not maximize? fail.

FYI i've used both windows and apple OS since win3.1 and apple OS7 (i was a kid back then). happily migrated to windows so i could actually do things like play games.
 

HeXen

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if it wasnt for games, i'd have a Mac if not Linux. I just now experienced another completely random problem. i made no changes in 2 days except browse some forums, i rebooted earlier and Firefox will not load. reinstalled it, all that comes up is the .exe in taskmanager. How odd, so after an hour of tinkering i'm forced on Opera....see, this is why some hate Windows and their stupid registry.

oh, goody, my AV, just this minute notified me that its expired despite i have 106 days left, something deactivated it i guess..probably registry issue *sighs
time for a reformat.
 

erikistired

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maximize button that does not maximize? fail.

FYI i've used both windows and apple OS since win3.1 and apple OS7 (i was a kid back then). happily migrated to windows so i could actually do things like play games.

tired old outdated argument is...yeah. next talk about the single button mouse.
 

erikistired

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fine, i'll talk about the ridiculous amount of hardware and software support offered by windows instead.

which tends to lead to system instability.

the indie software scene on the mac is light years ahead of windows. macheist alone is a great reason to own a mac.
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
Sep 5, 2000
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maximize button that does not maximize? fail.

FYI i've used both windows and apple OS since win3.1 and apple OS7 (i was a kid back then). happily migrated to windows so i could actually do things like play games.

omg jeezus. Its a intelligent maximize and it will toggle between last user state and maximum to see all of the information 1:1.
 

HAL9000

Lifer
Oct 17, 2010
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You convinced me. I'm trading in the PC that's in my sig for a Mac.

Go for it, you'll be pleased.

if it wasnt for games, i'd have a Mac if not Linux. I just now experienced another completely random problem. i made no changes in 2 days except browse some forums, i rebooted earlier and Firefox will not load. reinstalled it, all that comes up is the .exe in taskmanager. How odd, so after an hour of tinkering i'm forced on Opera....see, this is why some hate Windows and their stupid registry.

oh, goody, my AV, just this minute notified me that its expired despite i have 106 days left, something deactivated it i guess..probably registry issue *sighs
time for a reformat.

This.

Lol crap like that happens to me all the time... Sucks doesn't it.
 

bfdd

Lifer
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Yes you do, you seem to think that unless something offers value to the majority of mankind its not worth existing, so I guess we should say goodbye to TV, music, porn, theater, art...

You're either trying to troll me or you're a fucking moron. I never said something that doesn't offer value to the majority of mankind shouldn't exist. I said IF IT CEASED TO EXIST THIS VERY SECOND THE WORLD WOULD CONTINUE TO FUNCTION AND NO ONE WOULD NOTICE ANYTHING. If WINDOWS ceased to exist the world would stop dead in it's tracks for quite a fucking while. I bring this up to prove the point that OSX is a SHINY BAUBLE because all non-essentials are shiny baubles. I don't have a problem with shiny baubles and I think everyone should do and purchase what they feel like, but to argue that buying a shiny bauble is some how a "smart purchase" is fucking retarded.
 

HAL9000

Lifer
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You're either trying to troll me or you're a fucking moron. I never said something that doesn't offer value to the majority of mankind shouldn't exist. I said IF IT CEASED TO EXIST THIS VERY SECOND THE WORLD WOULD CONTINUE TO FUNCTION AND NO ONE WOULD NOTICE ANYTHING. If WINDOWS ceased to exist the world would stop dead in it's tracks for quite a fucking while. I bring this up to prove the point that OSX is a SHINY BAUBLE because all non-essentials are shiny baubles. I don't have a problem with shiny baubles and I think everyone should do and purchase what they feel like, but to argue that buying a shiny bauble is some how a "smart purchase" is fucking retarded.

Pens are non-essential therefore = shiney baubles. Art is a shiney bauble as it is non essential, so is sushi, and switzerland, so is chicken. Does this mean they aren't smart purchases? Or is that argument "fucking retarded"

What you are saying is "if the world can't function without "x" then "x" is not a smart purchase."
 

HAL9000

Lifer
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your proof is overwhelming. i must go buy a mac now (only to run windows when i play games, an even greater irony. buy a shiny new mac, and run windows on it too!)

Dude you said vista was fine, I don't need proof that that statement was false, Vista was the reason I looked for a different OS.
 

HAL9000

Lifer
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A sarcastic reply to a sarcasting post. There is no way I'd ever go to a stinking lame Mac. Ever. The thought is nauseating.

Lol yeah my response was sarcasm, I feel the same way about windows, the idea of suffering through windows for more than an hour at a time makes me die a little inside.
 

Fenixgoon

Lifer
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Dude you said vista was fine, I don't need proof that that statement was false, Vista was the reason I looked for a different OS.

i really don't understand what was so difficult about vista. but then again, i'm considered a "computer enthusiast" by most people's standards. really anyone with half a brain, and a little willingness to learn something new, wouldn't have a problem.

the only reason people bitched and moaned is because they had to deal with a change in interface.

of course people LOVE windows 7. go figure.
 

zerocool84

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i really don't understand what was so difficult about vista. but then again, i'm considered a "computer enthusiast" by most people's standards. really anyone with half a brain, and a little willingness to learn something new, wouldn't have a problem.

the only reason people bitched and moaned is because they had to deal with a change in interface.

of course people LOVE windows 7. go figure.

It's because people went in and didn't check to see if their current hardware had drivers for it. For the average person it was too big of a change for them. I never had and problems with Vista at all cus I used basic commin sense and made sure everything I owned had Vista drivers.
 

HAL9000

Lifer
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i really don't understand what was so difficult about vista. but then again, i'm considered a "computer enthusiast" by most people's standards. really anyone with half a brain, and a little willingness to learn something new, wouldn't have a problem.

the only reason people bitched and moaned is because they had to deal with a change in interface.

of course people LOVE windows 7. go figure.

It's because people went in and didn't check to see if their current hardware had drivers for it. For the average person it was too big of a change for them. I never had and problems with Vista at all cus I used basic commin sense and made sure everything I owned had Vista drivers.

No it wasn't that, it was because after the stability I had with my set up in XP I installed vista and found buggy slow crap.
 

erikistired

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excellent response. i completely see your point. not sure what you're replying to, but hey, why let that stop you.

bad drivers have been a weak point in windows stability forever. when you have such a wide variety of hardware to support of course you're going to have issues from time to time, it's certainly not microsoft's fault. it doesn't change the fact that supporting so much hardware can and does lead to instability from time to time.

if you're "lol, no" at the indie software scene, well then you're just straight up wrong.

win7 has been rock solid from day1. hell, even vista was fine.

windows 7 is pretty solid, and vista was eventually. as i said in my first post in this thread, windows 7 was the reason i went back to using windows for my main machine. i wouldn't call it rock solid, because there are instances where it relies on 3rd party drivers, and you just can't be sure they will always work.

You're either trying to troll me or you're a fucking moron. I never said something that doesn't offer value to the majority of mankind shouldn't exist. I said IF IT CEASED TO EXIST THIS VERY SECOND THE WORLD WOULD CONTINUE TO FUNCTION AND NO ONE WOULD NOTICE ANYTHING. If WINDOWS ceased to exist the world would stop dead in it's tracks for quite a fucking while. I bring this up to prove the point that OSX is a SHINY BAUBLE because all non-essentials are shiny baubles. I don't have a problem with shiny baubles and I think everyone should do and purchase what they feel like, but to argue that buying a shiny bauble is some how a "smart purchase" is fucking retarded.

now you're just being dramatic. if any of the 3 major operating systems disappeared there would be a bit of bedlam, but honestly the world would move on. it certainly wouldn't stop dead in it's tracks over losing windows, and to say that is just being ignorant. i actually would have thought you were smarter than that. there is absolutely nothing "essential" about the windows operating system. hell, unix/linux would make a bigger fuss than windows. drones will use whatever is put in front of them, but the back end is what really matters.

i really don't understand what was so difficult about vista. but then again, i'm considered a "computer enthusiast" by most people's standards. really anyone with half a brain, and a little willingness to learn something new, wouldn't have a problem.

the only reason people bitched and moaned is because they had to deal with a change in interface.

of course people LOVE windows 7. go figure.

the windows vista beta is what made me quit using windows and try out os x. i've been a "computer enthusiast" since i was 10, and i've been in the 95 alpha and beta, 98 alpha and beta, xp beta and used the vista public beta. until a service pack in vista was a mess. maybe even service pack 2. there is a reason people used XP for so long, and even still do, and vista is to thank for that. windows 7 is a FANTASTIC operating system that people love (and was great in beta as well), and it's basically the same UI as vista, so making snide comments about people learning something new is somewhat devalued.
 
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HeXen

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It's because people went in and didn't check to see if their current hardware had drivers for it. For the average person it was too big of a change for them. I never had and problems with Vista at all cus I used basic commin sense and made sure everything I owned had Vista drivers.

true, but its easy to say its the consumers responsibility when they don't have to and will speak with their wallets. MS could have approached Vista's development very differently.

Plus its hard to sell the average joe a new $300 + OS that does no more out of box than XP did with some simple 3rd party software. Even myself, after i bought Ultimate, i ended up doing the exact same things i did in XP but in a more bogged down feeling way along with Nvidia driver and game issues.

W7 is good, although users still have to "tip toe". you still have to follow these "unspoken" guidlines for how you go about installing and doing things...you certainly can't just go randomly changing themes, configuring system functions and installing any ol compatible application without following a procedure, using caution and knowlege.
And i don't believe in that...i think any user should beable to use any compatible application without order....that is where Mac's shine, but their OS is designed for their hardware and App store keeps out the junk software. i wish MS would offer a Repository where only good software and drivers goes.
 

Hacp

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Home users should learn how to image their systems. 7 has it built in and it even preserves partition alignment.

This is true for ANY system user regardless of OS.

Make no mistake about it! Hard disk reliability is in the can these days. Non enterprise disks are pitiful and die way too soon and often without warning of any sorts.

Could you provide a web link? I can't find it on Google. I am an imaging neophyte. Thanks for your help!
 

Hacp

Lifer
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true, but its easy to say its the consumers responsibility when they don't have to and will speak with their wallets. MS could have approached Vista's development very differently.

Plus its hard to sell the average joe a new $300 + OS that does no more out of box than XP did with some simple 3rd party software. Even myself, after i bought Ultimate, i ended up doing the exact same things i did in XP but in a more bogged down feeling way along with Nvidia driver and game issues.

W7 is good, although users still have to "tip toe". you still have to follow these "unspoken" guidlines for how you go about installing and doing things...you certainly can't just go randomly changing themes, configuring system functions and installing any ol compatible application without following a procedure, using caution and knowlege.
And i don't believe in that...i think any user should beable to use any compatible application without order....that is where Mac's shine, but their OS is designed for their hardware and App store keeps out the junk software. i wish MS would offer a Repository where only good software and drivers goes.

Huh? Windows 7 just works. Update picks up most missing drivers. Use recommended settings and you're golden. I love the search indexing also. It is my favorite OS!
 

HAL9000

Lifer
Oct 17, 2010
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Huh? Windows 7 just works. Update picks up most missing drivers. Use recommended settings and you're golden. I love the search indexing also. It is my favorite OS!

Read back through the thread, you'll find the issues people have had on windows 7 whilst posting... Ha... Also index searching has been in OSX for god knows how long.
 
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