Has anyone gone from a Windows 7 machine to an Apple and thought OMG...

[GodlessAstronomer]

PC = Ford Mustang, powerful, american box with the potential for loads of power.
Mac= Aston Martin... Amazing, exceptionally fast, refined, beautiful, made by craftsmen for one purpose

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You're a fucking douchebag, neckbeard.

 

[HAL9000]

Dude, I went to the effort of downloading something, installing it, and then blowing my whole OSX install because it didnt work.

Given how much Final Cut Pro costs you cant really blame me for testing it.

Homeslice, I'm not blaming you at all, I was trying to help

 

[erikistired]

Dude, I went to the effort of downloading something, installing it, and then blowing my whole OSX install because it didnt work.

Given how much Final Cut Pro costs you cant really blame me for testing it.

only the newest version of FCP (version 7) supports it. and for a thousand dollars, i couldn't blame you at all for finding out for sure.

 

[HAL9000]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You're a fucking douchebag, neckarb.

Yep, because I'm the one diving into threads posting in massive letters and calling people names, while writing they're names wrong.... :hmm:

 

[erikistired]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You're a fucking douchebag, neckbeard.

it's catching on!

 

[WelshBloke]

only the newest version of FCP (version 7) supports it. and for a thousand dollars, i couldn't blame you at all for finding out for sure.

Yeah, I hate doing that though.

My point is I could do it for free in Windows7 (legally).

 

[HAL9000]

Yeah, I hate doing that though.

My point is I could do it for free in Windows7 (legally).

Does handbrake not use it?

 

[erikistired]

Yeah, I hate doing that though.

My point is I could do it for free in Windows7 (legally).

i hate doing it too. i haven't pirated any software since i was in college and everything was transferred by floppy and didn't know any better.

and yeah, the built in movie editor edits avhcd, which is pretty nice. i'm not completely surprised tho, apple tends to like to push people towards their own formats if they can.

 

[WelshBloke]

Does handbrake not use it?

What?

Handbrake is not an editor.

Seriously, you may not like it but Window7 is way superior to OSX in this area.

 

[Puddle Jumper]

PC = Ford Mustang, powerful, american box with the potential for loads of power.
Mac= Aston Martin... Amazing, exceptionally fast, refined, beautiful, made by craftsmen for one purpose.

By craftsmen do you mean severely underpaid, suicidal, workers in a Chinese sweat shop?

It's more like a Mac is a Delorean, trendy powerful looking exterior with crap on the inside and performance that has no hope of living up to it's looks.

 

[erikistired]

Does handbrake not use it?

errr...handbrake?

 

[HAL9000]

What?

Handbrake is not an editor.

Seriously, you may not like it but Window7 is way superior to OSX in this area.

I imagine that companies who edit films for a living would disagree.

My point is couldn't handbrake just convert it...?

 

[HAL9000]

By craftsmen do you mean severely underpaid, suicidal, workers in a Chinese sweat shop?

Yes, Yes, I do. (I was actually referring to designers...)

errr...handbrake?

http://handbrake.fr/

 

[LikeLinus]

I think a better comparison would be:

PC = Ford Mustang, powerful, american box with the potential for loads of power.
Mac= Aston Martin... Amazing, exceptionally fast, refined, beautiful, made by craftsmen for one purpose.

From 1994 until 2007 Aston Martin was part of the Ford Motor Company. Ford retained a US$77 million stake in Aston Martin.

Aston Martins still use parts developed while they were owned by Ford. They use the electronics, drivetrains and various other parts.

Sort of like Apple is nothing more than a PC with a shinny case and an overpriced tag for people that want to be parted with their money for nothing more than a status symbol.

I can say this because I use a MacBook Pro 17" i7 with 8GB of ram and a Mac Pro 12 core with 16GB of ram for Final Cut Pro.

 

[erikistired]

I imagine that companies who edit films for a living would disagree.

My point is couldn't handbrake just convert it...?

those companies can afford to drop a grand on pro level software as well, and probably aren't using source from consumer grade video cameras. also, not everyone edits video on macs these days.

to your above post, i'm well aware what handbrake is, and to answer your question, no, it doesn't.

 

[WelshBloke]

I imagine that companies who edit films for a living would disagree.

My point is couldn't handbrake just convert it...?

Is this the Apple "you're using your computer wrong" argument?

It could convert it, but why would should I?

I cant see how you can argue its not easier to do this in Window?

 

[HAL9000]

Is this the Apple "you're using your computer wrong" argument?

It could convert it, but why would should I?

I cant see how you can argue its not easier to do this in Window?

I'm not saying your using the wrong computer at all, but if your options are either convert the file or uninstall the operating system and use something else, then convert!

On a side note I will concede, on this one area, if you want to edit that specific codec, but can't afford the appropriate software, then windows is the way to go. That and gaming is better on windows. All else is OSX.

 

[WelshBloke]

I'm not saying your using the wrong computer at all, but if your options are either convert the file or uninstall the operating system and use something else, then convert!

Or just use Windows and not worry about the issue at all.

 

[erikistired]

Is this the Apple "you're using your computer wrong" argument?

It could convert it, but why would should I?

I cant see how you can argue its not easier to do this in Window?

to be fair your original argument was that people who use os x are required to use a second os to get things done, not which os was easier to edit avchd videos on.

windows is definitely easier to do this on. however, it's not impossible to do it on os x as well, just more work. iMovie is pretty kick ass tho, so it might be worth it to convert it. i don't even remember to use my digital camera most days, i usually just snap pics and short video with my phone. that said, i still want a flip HD.

 

[HAL9000]

Or just use Windows and not worry about the issue at all.

But then you don't get to use OSX for everything else.

This one, IMO very minor feature is not worth ditching an overly better operating system (IMO) particularly seeing as you could just convert it, for free.

 

[LikeLinus]

Actually the AVCHD problem is a real pain in the ass. Even for the latest version of FCP Studio (which I use).

FCP Studio does not natively support AVCHD files as an imported file. It requires you to pull it directly off the camera/card or to have the complete file structure. It's SUCH a fucking pain the ass. A lot of times people will only send me the MTS files and I do not have the original file structure. FCP cannot import the file and I simply cannot work with it. This is one reason why I also run Adobe Premiere Pro CS5 along side FCP. In PP CS5 I can simply drag the file into my project and throw it on a timeline and it works! I don't have to convert it to a ProRes file.

This has always pissed me off about FCP. It's stupid you can convert it if you have the full file structure, but it cannot even use the actual video file alone.

 

[WelshBloke]

to be fair your original argument was that people who use os x are required to use a second os to get things done, not which os was easier to edit avchd videos on.

windows is definitely easier to do this on. however, it's not impossible to do it on os x as well, just more work. iMovie is pretty kick ass tho, so it might be worth it to convert it. i don't even remember to use my digital camera most days, i usually just snap pics and short video with my phone. that said, i still want a flip HD.

Given that editing AVCHD video is something I ( and a fair amount of others) do, why is Imovie kick ass if it doesn't do this.

It may be good for the things it does do but that's not relevant for the things it doesn't.

If i have to fork out a grand to do something I can do for free in another OS' I cant see much argument for the first one.

 

[HAL9000]

Given that editing AVCHD video is something I ( and a fair amount of others) do, why is Imovie kick ass if it doesn't do this.

It may be good for the things it does do but that's not relevant for the things it doesn't.

If i have to fork out a grand to do something I can do for free in another OS' I cant see much argument for the first one.

You don't you just have to convert it, for all other formats (that iMovie reads) it kicks ass...

 

[HAL9000]

Actually the AVCHD problem is a real pain in the ass. Even for the latest version of FCP Studio (which I use).

FCP Studio does not natively support AVCHD files as an imported file. It requires you to pull it directly off the camera/card or to have the complete file structure. It's SUCH a fucking pain the ass. A lot of times people will only send me the MTS files and I do not have the original file structure. FCP cannot import the file and I simply cannot work with it. This is one reason why I also run Adobe Premiere Pro CS5 along side FCP. In PP CS5 I can simply drag the file into my project and throw it on a timeline and it works! I don't have to convert it to a ProRes file.

This has always pissed me off about FCP. It's stupid you can convert it if you have the full file structure, but it cannot even use the actual video file alone.

That sucks. I always tend to just convert my videos to the format I want to manipulate them in, so this issue wouldn't really be relevent to me.

 

[WelshBloke]

But then you don't get to use OSX for everything else.

This one, IMO very minor feature is not worth ditching an overly better operating system (IMO) particularly seeing as you could just convert it, for free.

I don't particularly like using OSX either, but if it had given me some advantage I'd have stuck with it. Theres another post in the apple forum about that.