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HAL9000

Lifer
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WMP is worlds better than quicktime, and comes fully featured as opposed to quicktime.

mind you until quicktime 7, you had to PAY TO VIEW FULLSCREEN. what kind of bullshit was that?

WMP Sucks. In OSX Quicktime X is perfect, no issues with it, it comes fully featured. In Windows I install VLC straight away, never open WMP. I also install itunes for music.
 

bfdd

Lifer
Feb 3, 2007
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WMP Sucks. In OSX Quicktime X is perfect, no issues with it, it comes fully featured. In Windows I install VLC straight away, never open WMP. I also install itunes for music.

WMP stopped sucking a few years ago and I won't even get into iTunes since I hate that software as much as I hate realplayer.
 

HAL9000

Lifer
Oct 17, 2010
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WMP stopped sucking a few years ago and I won't even get into iTunes since I hate that software as much as I hate realplayer.

Real player sucks, but I've never had a pleasant experience with WMP, however quicktime is a small window that plays videos, it does what you need it to and that is all.
 

Arkaign

Lifer
Oct 27, 2006
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Mac > Hackintosh every time.

Eh, except you could build a hackintosh that would make the real Mac look silly. Dual overclocked Xeon 5680s FTW You could dual-boot it and use regular PC CF 6970 etc as well. Oh and more than the 64GB Ram limit Very few people would do that though. You can build pretty killer hackintoshes for 1/3 the price or less than competing Apple products if you purchase carefully.

lol. but seriously, people should use what they like and what works. I haven't had a PC problem since the 90s that I couldn't solve in a minute or two, outside of pure hardware failures that aren't platform specific (drops/failed components/etc). For me it just works. I go and try to do the same with a Mac and I feel like absolutely everything is amazingly complicated to find and use, outside of basic stuff like opening a browser/word document. My brain simply doesn't want to shift gears to learn how to efficiently get around the OS, though I know it can be done. I can understand how a lot of people could feel the same way in reverse.
 

bfdd

Lifer
Feb 3, 2007
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QT is fucking awful, I've had to fix almost as many problems on friends/families machines with QT installed as realplayer in the past. Don't even get me started on iTunes. What a load of shit that software is holy crap. I heard it is good on OSX, don't know haven't fucked with it, but for Windows omfg it is so goddamn bad(or at least it used to be).

WMP like I said has been on the slope up in terms of quality. They have come a long way with it over the years. I still prefer other media players, but they aren't really needed anymore unless you pirate HD content.
 

HAL9000

Lifer
Oct 17, 2010
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Eh, except you could build a hackintosh that would make the real Mac look silly. Dual overclocked Xeon 5680s FTW You could dual-boot it and use regular PC CF 6970 etc as well. Oh and more than the 64GB Ram limit Very few people would do that though. You can build pretty killer hackintoshes for 1/3 the price or less than competing Apple products if you purchase carefully.

lol. but seriously, people should use what they like and what works. I haven't had a PC problem since the 90s that I couldn't solve in a minute or two, outside of pure hardware failures that aren't platform specific (drops/failed components/etc). For me it just works. I go and try to do the same with a Mac and I feel like absolutely everything is amazingly complicated to find and use, outside of basic stuff like opening a browser/word document. My brain simply doesn't want to shift gears to learn how to efficiently get around the OS, though I know it can be done. I can understand how a lot of people could feel the same way in reverse.

True but Hackintoshes never work as well as a real Mac in my experience, and I built a pretty awesome Mac, for a good price. So it can be done.
 

Fenixgoon

Lifer
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WMP Sucks. In OSX Quicktime X is perfect, no issues with it, it comes fully featured. In Windows I install VLC straight away, never open WMP. I also install itunes for music.

so what you're saying is that you install VLC, never use WMP, and therefore never evaluate it? funny how that works.

quicktime is horrendously slow, especially on 1080p videos. furthermore, it automatically installs a quicklauncher that runs upon boot, and tries to take over all of your default media settings. you also have to specifically get a quicktime installer without itunes.
 

HAL9000

Lifer
Oct 17, 2010
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QT is fucking awful, I've had to fix almost as many problems on friends/families machines with QT installed as realplayer in the past. Don't even get me started on iTunes. What a load of shit that software is holy crap. I heard it is good on OSX, don't know haven't fucked with it, but for Windows omfg it is so goddamn bad(or at least it used to be).

WMP like I said has been on the slope up in terms of quality. They have come a long way with it over the years. I still prefer other media players, but they aren't really needed anymore unless you pirate HD content.

Yeah I'll agree with that quicktime sucks in Windows, so does Safari, but I don't use windows, in OSX it's perfect and as were comparing operating systems the fact that it sucks in Windows doesn't really matter.
 

Arkaign

Lifer
Oct 27, 2006
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Real player sucks, but I've never had a pleasant experience with WMP, however quicktime is a small window that plays videos, it does what you need it to and that is all.

WMP started getting decent with v10, now it's awesome, fast, flexible, and as good as anything else really.

I don't really enjoy media center very much, but I don't use a tuner and prefer to just shortcut open the folder I'm gonna play whatever I'm feeling like playing. It's also super easy to manipulate playlists/etc, though I prefer Zune and Winamp as superior music playback software.

iTunes absolutely BLOWS on PC (even overclocked quad i7-860 w/8gb!), but I've seen it running smooth as silk on Macbook Air. I do hate the circa '2001 interface of iTunes though =X It feels super ancient after using Zune v4+, and I bet Apple is gonna massively revamp iTunes soon, it is the one piece of Apple software that I can say is dated, bland dogshit.
 

HAL9000

Lifer
Oct 17, 2010
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so what you're saying is that you install VLC, never use WMP, and therefore never evaluate it? funny how that works.

quicktime is horrendously slow, especially on 1080p videos. furthermore, it automatically installs a quicklauncher that runs upon boot, and tries to take over all of your default media settings. you also have to specifically get a quicktime installer without itunes.

You're talking about it in Windows. I'm talking about it in OSX, It sucks in Windows, but I don't use it in Windows so I don't care, were comparing OS's so the fact that Quicktime is no good in windows doesn't matter.
 

HAL9000

Lifer
Oct 17, 2010
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WMP started getting decent with v10, now it's awesome, fast, flexible, and as good as anything else really.

I don't really enjoy media center very much, but I don't use a tuner and prefer to just shortcut open the folder I'm gonna play whatever I'm feeling like playing. It's also super easy to manipulate playlists/etc, though I prefer Zune and Winamp as superior music playback software.

iTunes absolutely BLOWS on PC (even overclocked quad i7-860 w/8gb!), but I've seen it running smooth as silk on Macbook Air. I do hate the circa '2001 interface of iTunes though =X It feels super ancient after using Zune v4+, and I bet Apple is gonna massively revamp iTunes soon, it is the one piece of Apple software that I can say is dated, bland dogshit.

It's definitely not dated in OSX, also I've never used Zune anything as we don't have them over here. I've never really used iTunes in Windows, as I don't listen to music so I can't comment.
 

Arkaign

Lifer
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Yeah I don't know why these companies can't make decent software for the other OS.

iTunes/Safari/Quicktime = great on Mac and crap on PC, except for iTunes, which is just so damned dated.

IE (not on Mac anymore right?), Office, etc = Great on PC, crap on Mac.
 

bfdd

Lifer
Feb 3, 2007
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WMP started getting decent with v10, now it's awesome, fast, flexible, and as good as anything else really.

I don't really enjoy media center very much, but I don't use a tuner and prefer to just shortcut open the folder I'm gonna play whatever I'm feeling like playing. It's also super easy to manipulate playlists/etc, though I prefer Zune and Winamp as superior music playback software.

iTunes absolutely BLOWS on PC (even overclocked quad i7-860 w/8gb!), but I've seen it running smooth as silk on Macbook Air. I do hate the circa '2001 interface of iTunes though =X It feels super ancient after using Zune v4+, and I bet Apple is gonna massively revamp iTunes soon, it is the one piece of Apple software that I can say is dated, bland dogshit.

iTunes looked and ran like a 14 year old made it in VB6 last time I used it. Sounds like it still does.
 

Arkaign

Lifer
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It's definitely not dated in OSX, also I've never used Zune anything as we don't have them over here. I've never really used iTunes in Windows, as I don't listen to music so I can't comment.

I was just in the Apple store in Frisco a couple weekends ago looking at MBA, and the current Mac iTunes is just as dated as ever, it looks positively stone age. At least it functions better on a Mac though.
 

HAL9000

Lifer
Oct 17, 2010
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Yeah I don't know why these companies can't make decent software for the other OS.

iTunes/Safari/Quicktime = great on Mac and crap on PC, except for iTunes, which is just so damned dated.

IE (not on Mac anymore right?), Office, etc = Great on PC, crap on Mac.

I agree, however Office was crap on the Mac until 2011 hit recently now it's the same as windows.
 

bfdd

Lifer
Feb 3, 2007
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Yeah I don't know why these companies can't make decent software for the other OS.

iTunes/Safari/Quicktime = great on Mac and crap on PC, except for iTunes, which is just so damned dated.

IE (not on Mac anymore right?), Office, etc = Great on PC, crap on Mac.

Well I'm willing to be Microsoft intentionally nerfs their software on OSX as to make people NEED Windows to have access to the full suite.
 

HAL9000

Lifer
Oct 17, 2010
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I was just in the Apple store in Frisco a couple weekends ago looking at MBA, and the current Mac iTunes is just as dated as ever, it looks positively stone age. At least it functions better on a Mac though.

I don't know what makes you think that, it looks great to me (although I don't listen to music) but still it looks fine, blends in with the operating system perfectly.
 
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