Has anyone reviewed AMD's E1-1200 or E2-1800?

[shortylickens]

Anand hasn't yet. I need a new laptop for business school and I wanna know how these processors stack up against other low-end efficient models. HP has them available in their tiny laptops. If I am customizing one for myself I'll need a good month lead time so that kinda limits how long I can spend researching.

 

[happysmiles]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFfkfI0SB7Q

http://liliputing.com/2012/07/hp-pavilion-dm1-amd-e2-1800-review.html

 

[Xpage]

seems to be 3-10% faster depending on what it is doing from the liliputing benches. I'd say it seems the CPU is overall about 3-4% faster. Basically all it's gains comes from frequency increase, nothing really significant from IPC improvements.

 

[Dman8777]

I'm also looking for a small laptop in this segment. I'm currently debating between the dm1 with brazos and the dm1 with sandy bridge. I've been using a netbook almost exclusively since ASUS invented them 4 years ago so speed isn't so important. For that reason I'm leaning towards the brazos option but some of the lower priced Llano/Trinity procs are also enticing. It would be great to see a 17w/25w A4 or A6 in an 11.6 inch chassis. I do game a little (all older games) which is why I'm more interested in the AMD options.

 

[happysmiles]

That would be nice
As of now though the E1-1800 looks to be a good deal

 

[AtenRa]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFfkfI0SB7Q

http://liliputing.com/2012/07/hp-pavilion-dm1-amd-e2-1800-review.html

I was expecting every Brazos 2.0 device (even Netops) would have USB 3.0 and SD card reader. Perhaps they will install them in larger 13"+ Laptops.

 

[jacktesterson]

Wonder if Netflix HD is finally possible on these?

 

[sm625]

I've been reading reports of people complaining that an i5 ulv isnt enough for netflix. It is getting worse and worse. At the rate this is going, half the computers out there now wont be able to run netflix properly in a couple years. I think many people jsut ignore the dropped frames. So I think the problem is much much worse than we might realize. I'm at the point now where I'm considering just canceling netflix. What they are doing looks to me like collusion.

There is no reason a 1 watt phone can play a netflix video, but a pc will drop frames while pulling 60-100 watts from the wall. It is just so stupidly retarded that I want nothing to do with it anymore. I can stream a video with vlc and it uses next to nothing. But fire up netflix and the power consumption goes up by 30 watts.

Two or three years from now I would not be surprised if they get slapped with a large fine and their stock goes to < $5.

 

[pelov]

Wonder if Netflix HD is finally possible on these?

Microsoft's Silverlight still lacks GPU acceleration...

Meanwhile in other news, Microsoft is also pushing GPU accelerated DirectCompute.

Microsoft logic.

 

[dorion]

I've been reading reports of people complaining that an i5 ulv isnt enough for netflix. It is getting worse and worse. At the rate this is going, half the computers out there now wont be able to run netflix properly in a couple years. I think many people jsut ignore the dropped frames. So I think the problem is much much worse than we might realize. I'm at the point now where I'm considering just canceling netflix. What they are doing looks to me like collusion.

There is no reason a 1 watt phone can play a netflix video, but a pc will drop frames while pulling 60-100 watts from the wall. It is just so stupidly retarded that I want nothing to do with it anymore. I can stream a video with vlc and it uses next to nothing. But fire up netflix and the power consumption goes up by 30 watts.

Two or three years from now I would not be surprised if they get slapped with a large fine and their stock goes to < $5.

It's sad you are so angry at one of the few legal ways for us to receive streaming video. If you find the content provider mandated encryption via Silverlight DRM for Netflix streaming to be causing too many issues for your computer maybe you can watch everything on your locked down cablebox for $5 a movie.

 

[jacktesterson]

It's sad you are so angry at one of the few legal ways for us to receive streaming video. If you find the content provider mandated encryption via Silverlight DRM for Netflix streaming to be causing too many issues for your computer maybe you can watch everything on your locked down cablebox for $5 a movie.

He has a very valid point.

Netflix is still the main reason these chips are avoided in HTPCs.

E350 can play blu rays and 1080 MKVs but not Netflix. Microsoft needs this resolved.



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[Phynaz]

Microsoft? How is it their issue?

 

[happysmiles]

Microsoft? How is it their issue?

Netflix is written in Silverlight.
Silverlight is Microsoft's answer to Flash
Silverlight is cat balls!

 

[Phynaz]

Aha, got it. Thank you.

Wouldn't that still make it a Netflix issue though? It's their software, right?

I'm ignorant to all this because I have a Prime subscription.

 

[pelov]

Aha, got it. Thank you.

Wouldn't that still make it a Netflix issue though? It's their software, right?

I'm ignorant to all this because I have a Prime subscription.

Silverlight is a .NET

Technically, it's their software Netflix's software but its written on Microsoft Silverlight.NET. It's both of their problems

 

[Red Hawk]

Microsoft's Silverlight still lacks GPU acceleration...

Meanwhile in other news, Microsoft is also pushing GPU accelerated DirectCompute.

Microsoft logic.

Silverlight does support GPU acceleration. Not sure if Netflix has implemented it though.

 

[pelov]

Seems you're right, although it looks to be quite recently?

http://connect.microsoft.com/Visual...pear-to-do-hw-acceleration-of-netflix-content


It looks like it's Netflix that's dropping the ball, much to nobody's surprise.

 

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Silverlight does support GPU acceleration. Not sure if Netflix has implemented it though.

Yeah it has since December I think. I got it ASAP hoping my E-350 would see improvement, it did not. Netflix needs to optimize and update their code but they have more pressing concerns dealing with getting new content than fixing issues for a small % of their subscribers.


Adam, I don't think the E-1800 can play netflix HD, unless sit can get OC'd to 2ghz, I had a post in some other thread talking about my reasons why.


I think it won't be till the next generation (real next generation not some 2.0 crap) of low end APU until that will happen. It should be another 6 months till that crop comes in.

 

[formulav8]

Silverlight does support GPU acceleration. Not sure if Netflix has implemented it though.

I tested playing a silverlight video before and the gpu usage kicked in. When the video paused there is no gpu usage. When it starts playing again the gpu usage runs steady between 4 to 12% usage.

 

[jacktesterson]

"Hardware Acceleration" has been part of Silverlight for a while.

Trouble is it doesn't seem to work with Netflix even with it enabled

My HTC One X cell phone can play Netflix HD over HDMI to my TV, but an AMD E-450 cannot? Make sense to anyone?

 

[robmurphy]

Android tablet or netbook like Transformer Prime?

Rob.

 

[alyarb]

Doesn't matter. Netflix clients for android, iOS, roku etc are detected differently than the web client on a desktop OS. Netflix developers are clearly familiar with hardware acceleration because of how successful they have been with ARM-based devices playing HD content.

It's really only the desktop web client that doesn't do it. They are at the point where they should ditch the web client altogether and build a standalone app, particularly when the metro start screen is forced on people.

 

[cebalrai]

Wonder if Netflix HD is finally possible on these?

It's probably not.

Silly question - does the C-Series fare any better with netflix? Any first-hand experience out there?

 

[ninaholic37]

Silly question - does the C-Series fare any better with netflix? Any first-hand experience out there?

I read many posts that say the C-60 works on 720p (SD) but stutters on 1080p (HD), but there are a few 1080p success stories...

http://slickdeals.net/forums/showpost.php?p=49149220&postcount=272
http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/hot-deals/1190610/#bottom

I would try this myself on my C-50, but I don't have a 1080p tv to hook it up to, so it'd be at 720p which is already proven to work, and I'm not really interested in paying just to test it out (apparently you can sign up for a "free trial", but there'd still be bandwidth costs - which seem to be ~2.3GB/hr for HD 1080p). No thanks, I can rent movies from the public library for free.

 

[bhvm]

I just brought the samsug laptop with amd e1 vision apu at 1.4ghz dual core. graphics is amd 7310 wish 80 shaders. very nice performance. USB 3.0 and 500gb hdd. a steal at 19.5k.