Has anyone seen the ATI X800XL @ MSRP $299

[Ike0069]

You should have bought all 9 and them sold them here in the forums. I'm sure you wouldn't have had any problem getting rid of them even before the CC bill came in.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: thegimp03
Nope, classic ATI keeping production low so as to charge outrageous prices. I would wait at least 2-5 months for it to come down to it's "MSRP"...

I predict that you will never see the X800XL show up anywhere for 300.00. At least until the cards are sold used or at a near obsolete age. No crystal balls here. I just know that history will repeat itself especially when a technical brick wall is being hit. The lowest price I have seen for a X800XL is 359.00 at AllStar, and thats a powercolor with crappy HSF on it.

 

[zakee00]

Originally posted by: RobotOfHatred

Originally posted by: dfedders

Originally posted by: dklingen
FYI to All,

I just went to Compusa and bought the X800 XL for $299 + tax (they 9 in stock). My alternative was the PCIe BFG 6800GT from Monarch for $425. So, I did save over $100! However, this also means I have decided to forego SLI completely.

Thanks for all of the input and help!

Where at? What state? I went to mine, and they didn't have any. The guy had no clue about anything. He kept saying x800 XT, and I said.. No... not the XT, the XL. :disgust:

I demand to hear the whole story.

SPIDER!
thats an awesome deal, i paid $400 for my AGP 6800GT, and the x800xl is very similar to it for $300...and its PCIe.
how high do they overclock though? i mean really im running a 6800ultra which IS faster then the x800xl

 

[Ackmed]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: thegimp03
Nope, classic ATI keeping production low so as to charge outrageous prices. I would wait at least 2-5 months for it to come down to it's "MSRP"...

I predict that you will never see the X800XL show up anywhere for 300.00. At least until the cards are sold used or at a near obsolete age. No crystal balls here. I just know that history will repeat itself especially when a technical brick wall is being hit. The lowest price I have seen for a X800XL is 359.00 at AllStar, and thats a powercolor with crappy HSF on it.

I predict you are wrong, again.

CompUSA and Fry's both had, or have them in stock, at a B&M store. For $299.

I also predict you wont find any PCI-E 6800GT and 6800U's in stock anywhere, let alone a real store.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: Ackmed
I also predict you wont find any PCI-E 6800GT and 6800U's in stock anywhere, let alone a real store.

And I predict you are wrong as well Ackmed, and almost hilariously so:
Newegg Leadtek 6800U PCIE in stock

Newegg eVGA 6800U PCIE in stock

Newegg Gigabyte 6800U PCIE in stock

Newegg MSI 6800GT PCIE in stock

Newegg Leadtek 6800GT PCIE in stock

Newegg XFX 6800GT PCIE in stock

Newegg MSI 6800GT PCIE in stock

Newegg eVGA 6800GT PCIE in stock

Yeah, PCIE GTs and Us are very rare, newegg only has eight different ones in stock! :roll:

LOL, there is a DDR3 shortage impacting production of higher end video cards

Err, yeah, only those four OEMs can get GDDR3, it's scarce!

 

[Ackmed]

He was talking about MSRP for the XL, for $300. I told him they are out there, for $299, in a real store. I figured it was implied that I was talking about MSRP for the GT and Ultra's as well. I guess I should explain everything very slowly.

So, where are these $400 and $500 PCI-E GT and Ultras? Let alone a real store that you can walk into?

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: Ackmed
He was talking about MSRP for the XL, for $300. I told him they are out there, for $299, in a real store. I figured it was implied that I was talking about MSRP for the GT and Ultra's as well. I guess I should explain everything very slowly.

So, where are these $400 and $500 PCI-E GT and Ultras? Let alone a real store that you can walk into?

Yeah, they're "out there" one guy says he bought one and won't say where. :roll:

It was "implied" you meant at MSRP by "I also predict you wont find any PCI-E 6800GT and 6800U's in stock anywhere, let alone a real store."?

Not in the English I speak Ackmed. What else does it "imply"?

 

[ronnn]

So does that mean they are not to be found at msrp? Or are you implying that they can be found? Nvidia announced the 6800 pcie series months ago, why the shortage and price gouging? Anyways the gts are getting close. Guess the availability (however good/bad) of the xl800 is pushing prices down.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: ronnn
So does that mean they are not to be found at msrp? Or are you implying that they can be found? Nvidia announced the 6800 pcie series months ago, why the shortage and price gouging? Anyways the gts are getting close. Guess the availability (however good/bad) of the xl800 is pushing prices down.

ATs latest price guide says they're to be found at $10 over MSRP- gasp!

There is no "shortage" of PCIE 6800s, and nVidia has no more to do with the cost of them than ATI has to do with the cost of X800XLs- gasp!

Supply and demand sets the market Ronnn, and the 6800GT/U is in high demand because of their total ownage of everything else in SLI?

(i.e. Buy a X800XL, and you've got most of a 6800GTs performance. Buy a 6800GT, and you've got half of a rig that can offer 1.5-1.9X a 6800GTs performance. This intrigues some people)

 

[dfedders]

Originally posted by: Rollo
Supply and demand sets the market Ronnn, and the 6800GT/U is in high demand because of their total ownage of everything else in SLI?

Well, you got part of it right. It is supply and demand, but unfortunately there is very little supply of 6800 Ultras right now, thats why they are freaking $600. Believe it or not, there are not too many people in the world willing to spend $600 on a video card - at least not enough to run a business off of. (or $1200 for those who want SLI).

There is a known shortage of DDR3 RAM. If those 6800GTs, 6800 Ultras, and the X800 series were all selling at MSRP, there would be a huge shortage. You can find them in stock because very few people are willing to spend $100-$150+ over MSRP for a video card which will be replaced in 6 months by something better.

Both ATI & Nvidia make more money off of sales to OEMs like Dell, and other projects like the Xbox and Gamecube than they make off the enthusiast market. The enthusiast market just pays for the R&D, and is a marketing tool.

Quit trolling in a thread about the X800XL @ MSRP.

 

[AnnoyedGrunt]

There is NO shortage of DDR3 ram. If there was, the 6600GT would also be extrememly scarce and expensive, yet it can be found all over the place at prices under MSRP.

The only shortage is PCIe 6800GT CARDS (AGP versions of 6800GT CARDS are all over, so we know the 6800GT CHIP isn't the problem). 6800 Ultra probably has yield issues, or is in low enough supply that a premium can be charged. Obviously there is still enough of a demand to justify those high prices.

On the ATI side, I am very happy to hear that some places are getting the X800XL, but I too, would love to know where. I'm in the market for one, and have been waiting for the price to come down closer to MSRP. In the end I may go for a Powercolor for $350 when they reach that price, since those have VIVO included, which (even though I probably won't use) I can use to justify the extra $50 price.

Come on X800XL! So far I see this card as the only chance for lower video prices in the future. All other high end cards seem to be outrageously expensive (at least for my taste).

-D'oh!

 

[ronnn]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: ronnn
So does that mean they are not to be found at msrp? Or are you implying that they can be found? Nvidia announced the 6800 pcie series months ago, why the shortage and price gouging? Anyways the gts are getting close. Guess the availability (however good/bad) of the xl800 is pushing prices down.

ATs latest price guide says they're to be found at $10 over MSRP- gasp!

There is no "shortage" of PCIE 6800s, and nVidia has no more to do with the cost of them than ATI has to do with the cost of X800XLs- gasp!

Supply and demand sets the market Ronnn, and the 6800GT/U is in high demand because of their total ownage of everything else in SLI?

(i.e. Buy a X800XL, and you've got most of a 6800GTs performance. Buy a 6800GT, and you've got half of a rig that can offer 1.5-1.9X a 6800GTs performance. This intrigues some people)

Sorry I don't understand. Are you gasping because Nvidia has been price gouging or because x800xl is forcing down the price?:beer:

 

[Ackmed]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Yeah, they're "out there" one guy says he bought one and won't say where. :roll:

It was "implied" you meant at MSRP by "I also predict you wont find any PCI-E 6800GT and 6800U's in stock anywhere, let alone a real store."?

Not in the English I speak Ackmed. What else does it "imply"?

It was implied, because if you look at the first post, title of thread, and the whole body of the those, its ALL about MSRP prices.

What do you mean one guy? http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=869926

CompUSA and Frys had them on the shelves, and people bought them. Posts like this are on every forum, with pics. You cant deny it is available from a B&M store.

The fact is, 6800GT and Ultra's have not been on a retail shelf from the likes of CompUSA, Frys, or BB's. I dont think they are even listed. They can be found online, and the prices have dropped. Especially for the GT. Its dropped about $50 in past few weeks, which is a good thing no matter how you look at it. So is the XL being had for MSRP, in a retail box, in a real walk-in store.

 

[nRollo]

[Q=Sorry I don't understand. Are you gasping because Nvidia has been price gouging or because x800xl is forcing down the price?[/quote]

I'm "gasping at the shocking news that you can buy PCIEs for within 2.5% of MSRP already, there is seemingly no shortage of GDDR3 for nVidia, and in amazement that you think nVidia has anything to do with retail pricing above MSRP?

 

[nRollo]

CompUSA and Frys had them on the shelves, and people bought them. Posts like this are on every forum, with pics. You cant deny it is available from a B&M store.

I stand corrected Ackmed!

There is obviously a tidal wave of $299 X800XLs wiping out the whole $300 market as we speak! I wouldn't be surprised if 10,000 were purchased as I typed this!




Errrrr, make that 10...

 

[Capt Caveman]

The X800XL by Powercolor also has dual DVI which I'm bummed that the ATI doesn't. Will have to wait for the Powercolor to come down in price.

 

[sellmen]

Originally posted by: Rollo

CompUSA and Frys had them on the shelves, and people bought them. Posts like this are on every forum, with pics. You cant deny it is available from a B&M store.

I stand corrected Ackmed!

There is obviously a tidal wave of $299 X800XLs wiping out the whole $300 market as we speak! I wouldn't be surprised if 10,000 were purchased as I typed this!




Errrrr, make that 10...

:disgust:

How many cards do you expect one store to have in stock? 30?

The fact that these cards are available at retail stores for MSRP approximately 1 month after the card is launched isn't bad. Compare that to Nvidia's 6800GT PCI express card, which still can't be found for MSRP despite having been out since late last year.

 

[TheDude20165]

When you go to Comp-USA web site it says "Coming Soon". So is it or isn't available now?

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: Ackmed

Originally posted by: Rollo

Yeah, they're "out there" one guy says he bought one and won't say where. :roll:

It was "implied" you meant at MSRP by "I also predict you wont find any PCI-E 6800GT and 6800U's in stock anywhere, let alone a real store."?

Not in the English I speak Ackmed. What else does it "imply"?

It was implied, because if you look at the first post, title of thread, and the whole body of the those, its ALL about MSRP prices.

What do you mean one guy? http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=869926

CompUSA and Frys had them on the shelves, and people bought them. Posts like this are on every forum, with pics. You cant deny it is available from a B&M store.

The fact is, 6800GT and Ultra's have not been on a retail shelf from the likes of CompUSA, Frys, or BB's. I dont think they are even listed. They can be found online, and the prices have dropped. Especially for the GT. Its dropped about $50 in past few weeks, which is a good thing no matter how you look at it. So is the XL being had for MSRP, in a retail box, in a real walk-in store.

Ackmed, just to get to the reality of all this, I will make you an offer to prove you're not mistaken. I want you to purchase a Radeon X800XL. I don't care where you get it from or what it costs you as long as it is not in your home state to avoid paying tax on it. I will purchase this from you after you get it for the $299.00 MSRP plus $20.00 and any shipping charges you incur. Now, at the conclusion of this deal, do you think you will make money or lose money? Ball is in your court and I am absolutely dead serious. If you truly believe all this stuff your posting you will not have any reluctance in doing this.

Oh yeah, you will have to ship first, my heat speaks for itself. You will get your money without question or complaint. I wanted this card anyway just to mess around with it.
Oh and one other thing, I will need to see a copy of your invoice to prove what it costs to ship the item from the vendor to you and to also see what your final purchase price was.

And the final requirement. I must have this card in my hands within 2 weeks from the time you purchase it from the online vendor which will be on the invoice as well. If it goes over two weeks, the deal is off. Two weeks is enough time to ship anything around the world twice. As long as its in stock in the first place.

What do you get out of this? Well, the chance to shut me up and prove your right. You can't prove your right with words Ackmed. Only with action in this case. And if your right about everything, you will make $20.00 dollars out of the deal.

Why don't I buy one myself? Well, because I don't feel like paying over MSRP first of all, and secondly, I do not wish for emails from the vendor I purchase the card from saying the ship date is pushed back, over and over again. I want that to be your headache. If what you say is true, you will have no such headache. I want you to practice what you preach. Also, if you do not ship the card to me after you get it ( It must remain sealed/unopened ) there is no proof that you actually were able to get one at least for the price your stating. If the card is not in my hands, there is no proof and your words mean nothing.

P.S. This applies only if you live in one of the lower 48 United States. I'm not going to pay international/Alaska/Hawaii shipping costs.

 

[Killrose]

I thought the title of this thread was: "Has anyone seen the ATI X800XL @ MSRP $299"

Now people are asking others if they have "bought" one at that price. Some of you people are being stoopid about this whole thing. It's totally obvious to me that these cards are showing up. Who cares if its onezy-twozies?

Even if they are showing up in a trickle, that should satisfy most of the demand, and maybe bring the on-line stores back to reality on the MSRP.

 

[ronnn]

Originally posted by: Rollo
I'm "gasping at the shocking news that you can buy PCIEs for within 2.5% of MSRP already, there is seemingly no shortage of GDDR3 for nVidia, and in amazement that you think nVidia has anything to do with retail pricing above MSRP?

Already? How long ago was the pcie gt and ultra announced? Seems to me like they have been talking about it for months, but not sure on the date of the official paper launch. Personally I suspect the price of the gt is falling because of the available prices on the x800xl. Suspect that the ultra pcie will be coming down in price soon also. And all this will force prices down futher and it is about time. :beer:

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: ronnn

Originally posted by: Rollo
I'm "gasping at the shocking news that you can buy PCIEs for within 2.5% of MSRP already, there is seemingly no shortage of GDDR3 for nVidia, and in amazement that you think nVidia has anything to do with retail pricing above MSRP?

Already? How long ago was the pcie gt and ultra announced? Seems to me like they have been talking about it for months, but not sure on the date of the official paper launch. Personally I suspect the price of the gt is falling because of the available prices on the x800xl. Suspect that the ultra pcie will be coming down in price soon also. And all this will force prices down futher and it is about time. :beer:

Why is that suspect? I consider that normal. Price wars are constant.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: Ackmed

Originally posted by: Rollo

Yeah, they're "out there" one guy says he bought one and won't say where. :roll:

It was "implied" you meant at MSRP by "I also predict you wont find any PCI-E 6800GT and 6800U's in stock anywhere, let alone a real store."?

Not in the English I speak Ackmed. What else does it "imply"?

It was implied, because if you look at the first post, title of thread, and the whole body of the those, its ALL about MSRP prices.

What do you mean one guy? http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=869926

CompUSA and Frys had them on the shelves, and people bought them. Posts like this are on every forum, with pics. You cant deny it is available from a B&M store.

The fact is, 6800GT and Ultra's have not been on a retail shelf from the likes of CompUSA, Frys, or BB's. I dont think they are even listed. They can be found online, and the prices have dropped. Especially for the GT. Its dropped about $50 in past few weeks, which is a good thing no matter how you look at it. So is the XL being had for MSRP, in a retail box, in a real walk-in store.

Ackmed, just to get to the reality of all this, I will make you an offer to prove you're not mistaken. I want you to purchase a Radeon X800XL. I don't care where you get it from or what it costs you as long as it is not in your home state to avoid paying tax on it. I will purchase this from you after you get it for the $299.00 MSRP plus $20.00 and any shipping charges you incur. Now, at the conclusion of this deal, do you think you will make money or lose money? Ball is in your court and I am absolutely dead serious. If you truly believe all this stuff your posting you will not have any reluctance in doing this.

Oh yeah, you will have to ship first, my heat speaks for itself. You will get your money without question or complaint. I wanted this card anyway just to mess around with it.
Oh and one other thing, I will need to see a copy of your invoice to prove what it costs to ship the item from the vendor to you and to also see what your final purchase price was.

And the final requirement. I must have this card in my hands within 2 weeks from the time you purchase it from the online vendor which will be on the invoice as well. If it goes over two weeks, the deal is off. Two weeks is enough time to ship anything around the world twice. As long as its in stock in the first place.

What do you get out of this? Well, the chance to shut me up and prove your right. You can't prove your right with words Ackmed. Only with action in this case. And if your right about everything, you will make $20.00 dollars out of the deal.

Why don't I buy one myself? Well, because I don't feel like paying over MSRP first of all, and secondly, I do not wish for emails from the vendor I purchase the card from saying the ship date is pushed back, over and over again. I want that to be your headache. If what you say is true, you will have no such headache. I want you to practice what you preach. Also, if you do not ship the card to me after you get it ( It must remain sealed/unopened ) there is no proof that you actually were able to get one at least for the price your stating. If the card is not in my hands, there is no proof and your words mean nothing.

P.S. This applies only if you live in one of the lower 48 United States. I'm not going to pay international/Alaska/Hawaii shipping costs.

I'm down with this, same terms. I'll take one as well Ackmed. If everyones out buying them at the store for MSRP as you say, you can make $20 off me too

 

[ronnn]

Wow didn't realize that the x800xl was so popular that even the biggest nvidia supporters want one! Nice job by ATI here.

 

[Ackmed]

Did I say the market was flooded with them? No. I just said that people have gotten them at MSRP, in a retail store.

You said they wouldnt show up for at least a year for MSRP, and you were wrong. Dont be mad because you're wrong, just admit it and get over it. I already did prove you wrong, I dont need to buy one and send it to you.