Has anyone seen the ATI X800XL @ MSRP $299

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Zebo

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Capt Caveman.. what board you decide on?

Might I suggest taking a peak at some Soltek K890Pro 939 reviews.. Seems faster than NF4 boards, is cheap, looks good, and since you only need one pcie slot...
 

nRollo

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Originally posted by: Zebo
Hot hot hot!!

I just refreshed my memory by reading a bunch of reviews..

Nothing from NVIDIA comes close to offering the kind of performance ATI is delivering at that price point. 6800GT PCI-E better come down a couple hundred dollars or ATI will dominate sales.

Agreed on the great price for this level of performance, ATI probably wanted to make sure some people actually bought these, unlike the X800 Pros.

I doubt the price of PCIE GTs will be $300 though, because:
1. They are slightly faster
2. They have a more advanced feature set
3. They are half of a much more powerful SLI rig

For the guy looking to spend $300 period on a vid card, these are a greart deal.
 

Zebo

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Yup I said when 800pro was out last year $317 or no sale...they did'nt sell. $350 is about GT price point IMO now.. take out the "couple"
 

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
keysplayr, just admit that you were wrong and be quiet. I bought one for under MSRP and have received a ship confirmation on it already. And who would take you up on lame offer, too cheap to pay sales tax and you're offering a measly $20. The effort to buy one, package it up and then go to the post office to mail it; based on time and effort, I'm probably losing money on the deal. Get real. Go to Hot Deals or do a search and you'll see that a good number of folks have gotten this deal or paid MSRP.

The "effort"? You mean clicking your mouse? Receiving the item ALLREADY packed in a shipping box when you get it? Then clicking on USPS website and ordering a pickup, printing out a label and attaching it to the box? Sounds like hard manual labor to me.

As usual you guys miss the point. I want Ackmed to go through the pains of actually getting one of these cards at MSRP and hope that he receives it when promised.
And about the sales tax, who the F do you think you are telling me whether or not I should pay local state sales tax when you know damn well, you would try to buy from an out of state online vendor to save yourself 25 bucks in tax as well. You call me cheap, I call it saving money. If your not into saving money then that is your business.

To all who missed my point, I will not bother explaining. To all those who can't grasp my point, to each his own. To all who say I don't have any point, thats just the way you see it. My offer still stands.

TO SELLMEN

QUOTE: Your offer is retarded.

By not allowing him to purchase in his home state, you have removed all the retailers (CompUSA, BestBuy, Frys) that do not price gouge, and will offer the card at MSRP.

Why don't you "step up to the plate" and pay the cost + tax if he can find one in a retail store? Probably because you'll lose...

Congratulations to you. You were the first to post the biggest cop out. I know I can't get the card for 299.00 sweetums. That's my whole point.

If I pay him 299.00 + about 25.00 for tax = 324.00 plus shipping to him and then to me another 20.00 = 344.00 plus the 20.00 to give him over MSRP = 364.00.

364.00 for a 299.00 dollar card is what is retarded sellmen. You wouldn't want to pay it either..

 

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
keysplayr, just admit that you were wrong and be quiet. I bought one for under MSRP and have received a ship confirmation on it already. And who would take you up on lame offer, too cheap to pay sales tax and you're offering a measly $20. The effort to buy one, package it up and then go to the post office to mail it; based on time and effort, I'm probably losing money on the deal. Get real. Go to Hot Deals or do a search and you'll see that a good number of folks have gotten this deal or paid MSRP.

The "effort"? You mean clicking your mouse? Receiving the item ALLREADY packed in a shipping box when you get it? Then clicking on USPS website and ordering a pickup, printing out a label and attaching it to the box? Sounds like hard manual labor to me.

As usual you guys miss the point. I want Ackmed to go through the pains of actually getting one of these cards at MSRP and hope that he receives it when promised.
And about the sales tax, who the F do you think you are telling me whether or not I should pay local state sales tax when you know damn well, you would try to buy from an out of state online vendor to save yourself 25 bucks in tax as well. You call me cheap, I call it saving money. If your not into saving money then that is your business.

To all who missed my point, I will not bother explaining. To all those who can't grasp my point, to each his own. To all who say I don't have any point, thats just the way you see it. My offer still stands.

TO SELLMEN

QUOTE: Your offer is retarded.

By not allowing him to purchase in his home state, you have removed all the retailers (CompUSA, BestBuy, Frys) that do not price gouge, and will offer the card at MSRP.

Why don't you "step up to the plate" and pay the cost + tax if he can find one in a retail store? Probably because you'll lose...
Congratulations to you. You were the first to post the biggest cop out. I know I can't get the card for 299.00 sweetums. That's my whole point.

If I pay him 299.00 + about 25.00 for tax = 324.00 plus shipping to him and then to me another 20.00 = 344.00 plus the 20.00 to give him over MSRP = 364.00.

364.00 for a 299.00 dollar card is what is retarded sellmen. You wouldn't want to pay it either..

Hey, he of course doesn't have to take up my offer. Like I said, actions speak louder than words. Words mean nothing from that guy.



 

sellmen

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Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
keysplayr, just admit that you were wrong and be quiet. I bought one for under MSRP and have received a ship confirmation on it already. And who would take you up on lame offer, too cheap to pay sales tax and you're offering a measly $20. The effort to buy one, package it up and then go to the post office to mail it; based on time and effort, I'm probably losing money on the deal. Get real. Go to Hot Deals or do a search and you'll see that a good number of folks have gotten this deal or paid MSRP.

The "effort"? You mean clicking your mouse? Receiving the item ALLREADY packed in a shipping box when you get it? Then clicking on USPS website and ordering a pickup, printing out a label and attaching it to the box? Sounds like hard manual labor to me.

As usual you guys miss the point. I want Ackmed to go through the pains of actually getting one of these cards at MSRP and hope that he receives it when promised.
And about the sales tax, who the F do you think you are telling me whether or not I should pay local state sales tax when you know damn well, you would try to buy from an out of state online vendor to save yourself 25 bucks in tax as well. You call me cheap, I call it saving money. If your not into saving money then that is your business.

To all who missed my point, I will not bother explaining. To all those who can't grasp my point, to each his own. To all who say I don't have any point, thats just the way you see it. My offer still stands.

TO SELLMEN

QUOTE: Your offer is retarded.

By not allowing him to purchase in his home state, you have removed all the retailers (CompUSA, BestBuy, Frys) that do not price gouge, and will offer the card at MSRP.

Why don't you "step up to the plate" and pay the cost + tax if he can find one in a retail store? Probably because you'll lose...
Congratulations to you. You were the first to post the biggest cop out. I know I can't get the card for 299.00 sweetums. That's my whole point.

If I pay him 299.00 + about 25.00 for tax = 324.00 plus shipping to him and then to me another 20.00 = 344.00 plus the 20.00 to give him over MSRP = 364.00.

364.00 for a 299.00 dollar card is what is retarded sellmen. You wouldn't want to pay it either..

Hey, he of course doesn't have to take up my offer. Like I said, actions speak louder than words. Words mean nothing from that guy.


No, I wouldn't pay $364 for a $300 card...but of course I wouldn't acquire my card by asking someone to buy it for me, ship it to me, and paying them to do that. Kind of indirect, don't you think?

If you really want to play with the card now, go to CompUSA or Frys and get one yourself. Tax in my state is approximately $20, that wouldn't kill the sale for me...or, just wait for CompUSA business to come in stock again, the total with tax/shipping will be under $300.

 

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: sellmen
Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
keysplayr, just admit that you were wrong and be quiet. I bought one for under MSRP and have received a ship confirmation on it already. And who would take you up on lame offer, too cheap to pay sales tax and you're offering a measly $20. The effort to buy one, package it up and then go to the post office to mail it; based on time and effort, I'm probably losing money on the deal. Get real. Go to Hot Deals or do a search and you'll see that a good number of folks have gotten this deal or paid MSRP.

The "effort"? You mean clicking your mouse? Receiving the item ALLREADY packed in a shipping box when you get it? Then clicking on USPS website and ordering a pickup, printing out a label and attaching it to the box? Sounds like hard manual labor to me.

As usual you guys miss the point. I want Ackmed to go through the pains of actually getting one of these cards at MSRP and hope that he receives it when promised.
And about the sales tax, who the F do you think you are telling me whether or not I should pay local state sales tax when you know damn well, you would try to buy from an out of state online vendor to save yourself 25 bucks in tax as well. You call me cheap, I call it saving money. If your not into saving money then that is your business.

To all who missed my point, I will not bother explaining. To all those who can't grasp my point, to each his own. To all who say I don't have any point, thats just the way you see it. My offer still stands.

TO SELLMEN

QUOTE: Your offer is retarded.

By not allowing him to purchase in his home state, you have removed all the retailers (CompUSA, BestBuy, Frys) that do not price gouge, and will offer the card at MSRP.

Why don't you "step up to the plate" and pay the cost + tax if he can find one in a retail store? Probably because you'll lose...
Congratulations to you. You were the first to post the biggest cop out. I know I can't get the card for 299.00 sweetums. That's my whole point.

If I pay him 299.00 + about 25.00 for tax = 324.00 plus shipping to him and then to me another 20.00 = 344.00 plus the 20.00 to give him over MSRP = 364.00.

364.00 for a 299.00 dollar card is what is retarded sellmen. You wouldn't want to pay it either..

Hey, he of course doesn't have to take up my offer. Like I said, actions speak louder than words. Words mean nothing from that guy.


No, I wouldn't pay $364 for a $300 card...but of course I wouldn't acquire my card by asking someone to buy it for me, ship it to me, and paying them to do that. Kind of indirect, don't you think?

If you really want to play with the card now, go to CompUSA or Frys and get one yourself. Tax in my state is approximately $20, that wouldn't kill the sale for me...or, just wait for CompUSA business to come in stock again, the total with tax/shipping will be under $300.

Oh I know. If it happens to come about, I will most likely buy it. We will see.

 

Capt Caveman

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keysplayr, I get the point. What I find funny is that you think less of Ackmed b/c he won't accept your challenge, who would? So, that you could get a cheap X800XL for doing nothing but waving a twenty dollar bill? It's not worth the effort. The sad thing is Ackmed, myself and others have shown you that you can get the card for MSRP or lower. Heck, you talked about how you'll never see it happen to it'll take a year for the price to drop. Wrong. Now, you throw in how you don't want to pay $25 sales tax after being proven that you can get the card for less than MSRP. I want it at MSRP, tax-free, no shippihg costs, in less than two weeks and only click a button, that's what you should have said in the first place. Re-read your statements. You've been proven wrong on both of them. If Ackmed, had seen the posts about the deal, he could have gotten the same deal as myself and could have proven you wrong. Even w/ the sales tax, it's below MSRP.
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"I predict that you will never see the X800XL show up anywhere for 300.00. At least until the cards are sold used or at a near obsolete age. No crystal balls here. I just know that history will repeat itself especially when a technical brick wall is being hit. The lowest price I have seen for a X800XL is 359.00 at AllStar, and thats a powercolor with crappy HSF on it."

"As usual you guys miss the point. I want Ackmed to go through the pains of actually getting one of these cards at MSRP and hope that he receives it when promised."
 

Capt Caveman

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Zebo. At the moment, I going with the DFI NF4 Ultra. I'm getting the ASUS in the mail from MicroCenter today and I called my local MicroCenter and they have the DFI mobo in stock which they're holding one for me. The Soltek sounds like a good board but I do want to be able to overclock and play around and it looks like the DFI can do it more than the ASUS. Thanks for asking.
 

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
keysplayr, I get the point. What I find funny is that you think less of Ackmed b/c he won't accept your challenge, who would? So, that you could get a cheap X800XL for doing nothing but waving a twenty dollar bill? It's not worth the effort. The sad thing is Ackmed, myself and others have shown you that you can get the card for MSRP or lower. Heck, you talked about how you'll never see it happen to it'll take a year for the price to drop. Wrong. Now, you throw in how you don't want to pay $25 sales tax after being proven that you can get the card for less than MSRP. I want it at MSRP, tax-free, no shippihg costs, in less than two weeks and only click a button, that's what you should have said in the first place. Re-read your statements. You've been proven wrong on both of them. If Ackmed, had seen the posts about the deal, he could have gotten the same deal as myself and could have proven you wrong. Even w/ the sales tax, it's below MSRP.
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"I predict that you will never see the X800XL show up anywhere for 300.00. At least until the cards are sold used or at a near obsolete age. No crystal balls here. I just know that history will repeat itself especially when a technical brick wall is being hit. The lowest price I have seen for a X800XL is 359.00 at AllStar, and thats a powercolor with crappy HSF on it."

"As usual you guys miss the point. I want Ackmed to go through the pains of actually getting one of these cards at MSRP and hope that he receives it when promised."

Cavey, don't pick apart my posts and try to pretend you understand me. It's an easy thing to do. Ackmed always needs to be right. Its his life force. Fine.
Please show me a link right now to an online vendor or local CUSA/BB that has the X800XL in stock for 299.00 without rebates. I want it at MSRP price. I live in NY.

This is what I have found at my local CUSA stores. here

And an entire site search on Best Buy for X800XL states, "Sorry, we could not find any items that contain X800XL. I did a search for just X800 and only a X800pro came up.

 

Ackmed

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Dont be mad you were wrong. Just stop making such foolish claims. Saying the card would not be $300 for a year is just, well, dumb. Especially since it already was. I dont have to be right all the time, often times I am wrong. I dont have a problem admitting it when I am wrong, something you dont seem able to do. I also try to not make such foolish claims.

You snooze, you lose. Looks like they CompUSA online is sold out now. Lots of people got them. Im sure they will be back in stock shortly.
 

Capt Caveman

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There was a link yesterday for below MSRP and it was such a hot deal, it was sold out at compusabusiness.com and compusa.com had it but also sold out. Go to Hot Deals and some folks already have them in their hands. Mine is coming tomorrow. You may want to call some of your local B&M Best Buys and/or CompUSA. The CompUSA website is not always right in regard to store inventory. After checking that way, I went to the CompUSA that supposedly had what I wanted but they didn't have it. I had them call the others stores and one of the stores that the website listed as not having it, had it.
 

crazyeddie

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I'm one of the idiots who went to the ATI online store and did the $269 pre-order. My card will be $284.05 including shipping, assuming ATI ever actually ships the X800XL pre-orders.

I'm cautiously optimistic, though. The bad publicity they got for cancelling the X850 XT PE pre-orders has to have them stinging a bit. They offered the X800XL pre-order as an alternative to folks turned away from the X850 XT PE. Surely ATI couldn't be dumb enough to renig on two pre-order offers in a row to the same customers, could they?

Also, with the ATI retail boxed X800XLs showing up at CompUSA in sporadic quantities, it's at least evidence that the cards exist and they are shipping them. 3rd party X800XLs are in decent supply at online retailers, albiet at a higher price, as well.

My pre-order receipt says I should expect to wait 2-4 weeks for my card. I'm guessing that it will ship after 2 weeks and I should have it in hand after 3 weeks. To save $100 off current street price, I'm willing to tough it out for 3 more weeks.

I ordered a MSI RS-480M2-IR ATI Radeon Xpress 200 motherboard to go along with the new video card. I also ordered an A64 3000+ and a 1Gb Dual Channel DDR400 kit to go with it. I figure I can wait the 4 weeks for my card and just run the X300SE IGP built into the board. If the card still has shipped by the end of March, I'll have to re-evaluate my options.
 

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: Ackmed
Dont be mad you were wrong. Just stop making such foolish claims. Saying the card would not be $300 for a year is just, well, dumb. Especially since it already was. I dont have to be right all the time, often times I am wrong. I dont have a problem admitting it when I am wrong, something you dont seem able to do. I also try to not make such foolish claims.

You snooze, you lose. Looks like they CompUSA online is sold out now. Lots of people got them. Im sure they will be back in stock shortly.

You can say whatever you wish brudda. But the fact is, I still can't buy one at MSRP. Whether I "snoozed" or not. Why you keep saying I'm wrong is a mystery. And I'm not mad at anyone. I don't even have a PCI-E mobo yet, so I can afford to wait a year if I wish. If I were able to buy a card right now for MSRP, then I would and then buy a mobo/cpu for it. The fact is, I don't like you. You don't like me. I'm down with that.
We will never agree no matter what for some reason. Maybe its the good and evil thing. Oh, I'm the good guy of course.

 

n yusef

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I was up really late, and my little brother started watching Dragonball Z. When people were talking about the X800XL not being at MSRP for a year, my little brother told me about that DBZ sh|t, so I posted it. It took a day for CompUSA.com to get it at MSRP, so I said a day for every year like in Dragon Ball Z.
 

MisterChief

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OMG. This is out of control! It's just a stupid PRICE TAG ! Do some searching. If you find an XL for 300 and down, good for you. If not, you'll just have to wait!
 

nRollo

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Originally posted by: ronnn
Originally posted by: sellmen
Your offer is retarded.

Not retarded, just the standard attack the messenger. Will be interesting to see if he actually buys an ATI card when he can't deny their existance. My guess is we will hear about sli or drivers.

I don't know about that. Keys is an honorable man, an asset to the board.

He doesn't need to dick around with a bargain card like a X800 XL, I'll sell him my Asus X800 XT PE with Silencer installed, all retail pack and accessories for $425..

Then he can play with a real ATI card?
 

sellmen

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Originally posted by: Rollo
Originally posted by: ronnn
Originally posted by: sellmen
Your offer is retarded.

Not retarded, just the standard attack the messenger. Will be interesting to see if he actually buys an ATI card when he can't deny their existance. My guess is we will hear about sli or drivers.

I don't know about that. Keys is an honorable man, an asset to the board.

He doesn't need to dick around with a bargain card like a X800 XL, I'll sell him my Asus X800 XT PE with Silencer installed, all retail pack and accessories for $425..

Then he can play with a real ATI card?

Wow, only $125 more for a card with slightly higher clockspeeds.

What a bargain...

:disgust:
 

sellmen

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Originally posted by: Rollo
Originally posted by: sellmen
Originally posted by: Rollo
Originally posted by: ronnn
Originally posted by: sellmen
Your offer is retarded.

Not retarded, just the standard attack the messenger. Will be interesting to see if he actually buys an ATI card when he can't deny their existance. My guess is we will hear about sli or drivers.

I don't know about that. Keys is an honorable man, an asset to the board.

He doesn't need to dick around with a bargain card like a X800 XL, I'll sell him my Asus X800 XT PE with Silencer installed, all retail pack and accessories for $425..

Then he can play with a real ATI card?

Wow, only $125 more for a card with slightly higher clockspeeds.

What a bargain...

:disgust:

Ever see one that cheap, Bigshot? An ASUS? :roll:

I'm not sure why it being "AN ASUS" makes any difference, but no I haven't seen one that cheap. Not that it matters... $125 more for slightly higher clockspeeds is a waste of money.

 

sellmen

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Originally posted by: Rollo
For those who think I'm taking advantage of Keys:
A. 520/560 vs 400/500 isn't generally considered a "slightly higher" clock speed
B. The Asus pack is the "Cadillac" of X800XT PEs
http://usa.asus.com/products/vga/ax800xt/overview.htm

Pick your term then. "Moderately higher"? It's certainly not a huge difference. The 9600XT had a 100mhz core clock advantage on the 9600pro, I don't remember anyone being particularly impressed. 60mhz on memory is notable, but still...

$125? Asus is a extremely well known brand, but a video card is a video card. It renders graphics...an Asus, Sapphire, and ATI brand card are only different in the cooler they use, and the warranty they have. Since you have a silencer on it, the cooler really doesn't matter, and the warranty is void.

Either way, whether you call it "moderately higher" clockspeeds or "slightly higher" clock speeds, it's doesn't make sense to call the X800XL a "budget" card and the X800XT PE a high-end one.
 

ronnn

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Originally posted by: Rollo
For those who think I'm taking advantage of Keys:

Taking advantage? More like rescuing him as he was drowning in something. Now that the x800xl is a "bargain card". Nvidia salesman speak for we have nothing that competes. At least you are consistent. :beer:
 
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