Has anyone seen the ATI X800XL @ MSRP $299

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: Amol

Originally posted by: dragon119
Why don't you like SLI? I would like to build a SLI system with 1 6800 GT for now and add 1 later...

and my ONE R520 card will PWN it

This is meaningless. 6800GT SLI was available 4 months ago. Will the R520 be available in 4 months? Maybe? Who knows?

Will it beat a 6800GT SLI rig? Maybe, but you don't know that.

Will it beat whatever nVidia has out then in SLI? Who knows.

Your post is the equivalent of saying,"Your rig might be top dog now, but someday I'll beat it!" with no basis in fact whatsoever.

 

[Creig]

Originally posted by: SilverTrine
If we're comparing the two cards, lets compare the fact that the x800xl needs no powersupply hookup, while the 6800gt needs a freaking 450w powersupply. Which also bodes well for noise and heat for the x800xl.
The x800xl is a great value and all the Rollos in the world wont change that.

I don't think a 6800GT requires a 450w power supply. Nvidia kinda shot themselves in the foot when they started quoting high power supply requirements. I think they were going for the macho "Look how much power our cards need! They MUST be fast!" but it backfired and people started shying away from them because of it. So Nvidia then lowered the recommended power supply wattage.

There's nothing wrong with SLI. It's just not for everybody. If you absolutely have to have the fastest framerates in your games, then it's just the ticket. If you want to purchase one card now and add a 2nd card later on down the road, then it's just what you're looking for.

But considering how powerful a single 6800GT/U or X800XT PE/X800XL is, I don't think SLI is really needed for any current game unless you're running a very high resolution with AA/AF cranked up.

 

[ronnn]

I guess we can all accept that the x800xl is a nice card at a good price. As for 6800gt sli, we will have to wait for whql drivers to do some real benchmarking. One thing for sure the x800xl will certainly bring down the price of all cards, which is a very good thing.

 

[dfedders]

Originally posted by: Rollo
Gee, I use SLI every day and have used it on any game I've tried. (it doesn't always offer a benefit on some ancient games I can run at 16X12 4X8x lightning fast, but oh well)

Thats great. Then you don't need a X800XL, so why are you crapping in a thread about the X800XL @ MSRP?!?

Quit trying to prove to yourself and everyone else that you made the best choice and bought a different card.

 

[Shimmishim]

bottom line...
x800xl > 6800gt

mostly from the price point of view... $300 vs. $400

like someone posted, this card is available to buy online from microcenter.com i believe... i tried ordering one but they couldn't verify my address so I couldn't order it... good thing I have a sister who lives near the microcenter in marietta, ga

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: dfedders

Originally posted by: Rollo
Gee, I use SLI every day and have used it on any game I've tried. (it doesn't always offer a benefit on some ancient games I can run at 16X12 4X8x lightning fast, but oh well)

Thats great. Then you don't need a X800XL, so why are you crapping in a thread about the X800XL @ MSRP?!?

Quit trying to prove to yourself and everyone else that you made the best choice and bought a different card.

You're new here and apparently don't know me very well.

I don't "try to convince people I bought the best card" because I don't often as not, on purpose.

I am a computer hobbyist who buys most cards, not just the one an accountant would crunch numbers on and deem best. For example, I put my 9700Pro on the shelf, bought a FX5800. I traded my 9800Pro for a 5800Ultra. I gave my five year old my X800XT PE to use a 6600GT SLI, and now I'm selling the XT PE and using the money to buy a 6800NU SLI rig.
(I could list more examples when I've sold faster nVidia cards to go to ATI, but won't for sake of brevity.

I posted in this thread about SLI because misinformation was posted here about SLI.

I would have done the same if misinformation was posted about the X800XL.

Make sense?

 

[user1234]

I thought you had 2x6600gt sli, but your sig says you have 2x6800s ? now you gonna go with 2x6800U ? how many more cards are you going to shuffle before you find the system you actually want ot use ? or is that you just want to keep shuffling cards and don't really care about using them for what they are meant and capable of doing ?

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: user1234
I thought you had 2x6600gt sli, but your sig says you have 2x6800s ? now you gonna go with 2x6800U ? how many more cards are you going to shuffle before you find the system you actually want ot use ? or is that you just want to keep shuffling cards and don't really care about using them for what they are meant and capable of doing ?

I do have two 6600GTs and two 6800NUs. I like to benchmark cards and see what they can do.

I won't rule out the possibility I'll get others, last I checked, it's still legal to buy more than one video card a year.

In answer to your question, I will never find the sytem "I want to use". As long as there is more than one manufacturer and more than one card, I'll probably want to try it.

 

[BlindBartimaeus]

Looking for anymore kids...I am available

 

[user1234]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: user1234
I thought you had 2x6600gt sli, but your sig says you have 2x6800s ? now you gonna go with 2x6800U ? how many more cards are you going to shuffle before you find the system you actually want ot use ? or is that you just want to keep shuffling cards and don't really care about using them for what they are meant and capable of doing ?

I do have two 6600GTs and two 6800NUs. I like to benchmark cards and see what they can do.

I won't rule out the possibility I'll get others, last I checked, it's still legal to buy more than one video card a year.

In answer to your question, I will never find the sytem "I want to use". As long as there is more than one manufacturer and more than one card, I'll probably want to try it.

most people buy hardware because they want to use it and they upgrade to get better perofrmance. It makes no sense to buy something worse just to try it out. Sli only makes sense for people that want the highest performance that money can buy, regardless of the price. It's hardly a good way to save money or get good value per investment. If you do your research more diligently, you'll be able to avoid costly mistakes in money and time, and just get what you actually need based on professional reviews, rather than having to test everything for yourself. Unless, like I said, testing is your goal rather than the means.

 

[EternusNox]

I would agree with that and I would add that buying one 6800GT and another one down the road makes absolutely no sense to me. I mean if you'll be buying another card to get the performance level of the current cards, why not just buy one of the current cards. Seems like just buying one 6800GT now and replacing it with something as powerful as two when that time comes would be easier. Why the need for SLI?

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: user1234

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: user1234
I thought you had 2x6600gt sli, but your sig says you have 2x6800s ? now you gonna go with 2x6800U ? how many more cards are you going to shuffle before you find the system you actually want ot use ? or is that you just want to keep shuffling cards and don't really care about using them for what they are meant and capable of doing ?

I do have two 6600GTs and two 6800NUs. I like to benchmark cards and see what they can do.

I won't rule out the possibility I'll get others, last I checked, it's still legal to buy more than one video card a year.

In answer to your question, I will never find the sytem "I want to use". As long as there is more than one manufacturer and more than one card, I'll probably want to try it.

most people buy hardware because they want to use it and they upgrade to get better perofrmance. It makes no sense to buy something worse just to try it out. Sli only makes sense for people that want the highest performance that money can buy, regardless of the price. It's hardly a good way to save money or get good value per investment. If you do your research more diligently, you'll be able to avoid costly mistakes in money and time, and just get what you actually need based on professional reviews, rather than having to test everything for yourself. Unless, like I said, testing is your goal rather than the means.

Hmmm.

I wasn't aware we're all under scrutiny for how we spend our money?

You're an interesting person who thinks they have some god-like powers to decide what's a "good buy" for people?

Ever think that playing with video cards might be one of my hobbies user1234?

I'm going to buy a couple of new fishing reels at lunch today too- and I already have 11-12 that work fine and are high quality parts! <Gasp> Maybe I should "read the reviews" instead? :roll:

Look sport- I read the reviews and know what I'm doing. I can tell you this for sure- it's more fun to buy and use a video card than read what some other guys thought of it.

 

[Killrose]

Obviously this thread has turned into something other than what it was intended to be.

Time for the mods to lock this worthless peice of flame-bait :roll:

 

[rgreen83]

Newegg now has a knock off brand in retail box for $299, here. $5 shipping, tax free to most should make it cheaper than in store.

 

[user1234]

it's $289 at newegg, and $299 for ATI brand at outpost.com . Hope the moron that said it will never be sold at msrp eats his hat. Dude, wake up - msrp is 25% more then what the retailer pays for it to the manufacturer (wholesale price) - so it already guarantees the retailer a very nice profit, with room for some discounts. Why on earth would you think the price will be above that ? you can say the retailers will not sell below their wholesale cost, but here we're talking about msrp which is already 25% above that [pwned * n]

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: user1234
it's $289 at newegg, and $299 for ATI brand at outpost.com . Hope the moron that said it will never be sold at msrp eats his hat. Dude, wake up - msrp is 25% more then what the retailer pays for it to the manufacturer (wholesale price) - so it already guarantees the retailer a very nice profit, with room for some discounts. Why on earth would you think the price will be above that ? you can say the retailers will not sell below their wholesale cost, but here we're talking about msrp which is already 25% above that [pwned * n]

:roll:

A month ago, they were selling for considerably above MSRP.

Be sure to check out my 6800GT SLI thread User1234, I know you were interested in it.

 

[ronnn]

thread resurrected to sell nvidia. :roll:

 

[Avalon]

Originally posted by: user1234

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: user1234
I thought you had 2x6600gt sli, but your sig says you have 2x6800s ? now you gonna go with 2x6800U ? how many more cards are you going to shuffle before you find the system you actually want ot use ? or is that you just want to keep shuffling cards and don't really care about using them for what they are meant and capable of doing ?

I do have two 6600GTs and two 6800NUs. I like to benchmark cards and see what they can do.

I won't rule out the possibility I'll get others, last I checked, it's still legal to buy more than one video card a year.

In answer to your question, I will never find the sytem "I want to use". As long as there is more than one manufacturer and more than one card, I'll probably want to try it.

most people buy hardware because they want to use it and they upgrade to get better perofrmance. It makes no sense to buy something worse just to try it out. Sli only makes sense for people that want the highest performance that money can buy, regardless of the price. It's hardly a good way to save money or get good value per investment. If you do your research more diligently, you'll be able to avoid costly mistakes in money and time, and just get what you actually need based on professional reviews, rather than having to test everything for yourself. Unless, like I said, testing is your goal rather than the means.

Just because it doesn't make sense to you, does not mean it doesn't make sense to others. I'm with Rollo. I'll buy a new card that may perform worse than my own, because I like to explore the hardware firsthand. Reviews are good, but playing with hardware is better.

 

[user1234]

cool, I understand that, as long as it's clear you're buying it for this reason, and not because it's the best value buy that exists.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: ronnn
thread resurrected to sell nvidia. :roll:

Disagree.

You'll notice I hadn't posted in this thread since 2/27 until a question was directly asked of me? And that my posts since then are only in direct response to User1234?

Are you saying User1234 lured me back into the thread to try and sell nVidia, Ronnnn?

Diabolical!

 

[user1234]

Don't you know usernames are case sensitive ? execpet maybe in windoze