Has Disqualification Begun?

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sportage

Lifer
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I think to be disqualified he would first have had been "convicted". Convicted in a courtroom and by a Jury. After all, there is an old saying INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN.
PS, indictment is not to be found guilty.

If state(s) try to disqualify Trump, and they will, the US Supreme Court will block that, and it will, when it reaches the hight court, which is inevitable. So as fun as all this may seem, I doubt it will happen. To imagine something so simple could end Trump's political ambitions.... well, I wouldn't count on it. But I will say to those state(s) who dare even try, nice try. Maybe move on to PLAN B. After all, considering Trump is so mob-like in his operation we can imagine what PLAN B might involve. It happens all the time, in their world.

 

Indus

Lifer
May 11, 2002
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I think to be disqualified he would first have had been "convicted". Convicted in a courtroom and by a Jury. After all, there is an old saying INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN.
PS, indictment is not to be found guilty.

If state(s) try to disqualify Trump, and they will, the US Supreme Court will block that, and it will, when it reaches the hight court, which is inevitable. So as fun as all this may seem, I doubt it will happen. To imagine something so simple could end Trump's political ambitions.... well, I wouldn't count on it. But I will say to those state(s) who dare even try, nice try. Maybe move on to PLAN B. After all, considering Trump is so mob-like in his operation we can imagine what PLAN B might involve. It happens all the time, in their world.

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Agreed.. the Jan 6 case and the Georgia case are both disqualification material.

I think the Jan 6 federal case is the one that might have a faster resolution if it can go to trial on time.

The Georgia one will be a circus!
 

trenchfoot

Lifer
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I desperately hope Trump is not elected. That said, he has not yet been convicted of any crime that would disqualify him from being on the ballot. Unfortunately, until, or unless, he is convicted, I dont see how it is justified to removal is justified.

The Dems cant afford to be overconfident, neither the party leaders or the voters themselves. A high voter turnout is critical to defeat Trump or whoever else might be the Rep candidate.


2016 rear's its ugly head and Hillary is still wanting Comey's head on a platter for causing that infamous "October Surprise".
 
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Nov 17, 2019
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A little more.

U.S. News // 1 hour ago

Movement grows to block Donald Trump from ballot over Jan. 6

CLIVE, Iowa, Sept. 7 (UPI) -- Legal scholars are seeking to keep Donald Trump off the 2024 ballot in several states, arguing his link to the Capitol insurrection disqualifies him from running for re-election -- even if he is not convicted of a crime.


Meanwhile the insurance Blonde chimes in.

Donald Trump's Lawyer Fears 14th Amendment Talk Could Taint Jury Pool
Attorney Lindsey Halligan made the claim while dismissing Special Counsel Jack Smith's concerns about Trump's Truth Social posts influencing jurors.


(For most of her career she has been an insurance lawyer, handling residential and commercial insurance claims. Since 2022 she has represented former US president ...


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lindsey_Halligan )


How does that happen?


Oh ... I see ....




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Aharami

Lifer
Aug 31, 2001
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I’m putting zero stock in these efforts. If the GOP really wants to ditch Trump, then they’ll have to defeat him in the primary process. I guess that’s one argument in favor of open primaries?

I can definitely picture a scenario where, if Trump were the final GOP presidential candidate and kept off the ballot in Michigan, for example, the local party would just nominate another GOP shill with full expectation that, if they win, their delegates can just pledge their votes to Trump.
the people in power want to stay in power no matter what happens outside of their individual lives. If the GOP were to toss Trump from the primaries, he'd splinter and take majority of the base with him, essentially tanking the GOP as a party altogether for the next few election cycles. The powers that be inside the GOP know that and they're scared shitless of it. They made their bed, and now they have to lie in it.
 
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hal2kilo

Lifer
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Somebody seems .... unhinged.


Trump asks 14th Amendment case against him be moved from Colorado state court to federal court

ABC|1 hour ago
Former President Donald Trump filed a notice of removal in the Colorado ballot 14th Amendment case be moved from state court to federal court.
Yea, let's just take a shortcut to the SCOTUS shadow docket routine. See, first there has to be a lawsuit in that state, then if you loose you get to appeal it .........
 
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JEDI

Lifer
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interesting.. if a handful of Repub states succeed in removing trump from the ballot yet trump still wins the Repub nomination, then in the general election will his name still NOT be on the ballot in those states?
 
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'Some say' the Constitution is undemocratic.

Some say using the 14th Amendment to disqualify Trump is anti-democratic

ABC|9 hours ago
As efforts to disqualify former President Donald Trump from the 2024 ballot under the 14th Amendment gather steam, some election officials are pushing back and legal scholars are arguing doing so would be anti-democratic, among other concerns.
 

fskimospy

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'Some say' the Constitution is undemocratic.

Some say using the 14th Amendment to disqualify Trump is anti-democratic

ABC|9 hours ago
As efforts to disqualify former President Donald Trump from the 2024 ballot under the 14th Amendment gather steam, some election officials are pushing back and legal scholars are arguing doing so would be anti-democratic, among other concerns.
I like how the idea that if you try to end democracy you don't get to run that democracy any more is somehow anti-democratic.

Like are these morons actively suicidal?
 

GodisanAtheist

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Nov 16, 2006
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No it hasn't God Emperor Trump will be out next president get on your knees and slurp down that fascist gravy fucking dumbfuck liberal. Pray it's seasoned, cause you only get one go
 

ivwshane

Lifer
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The latest news/take I’ve seen on this is that the fourteenth amendment doesn’t specifically call out the president as being a position that can’t be held by someone who tried to overthrow our government.

Always a freaken loop hole!

If our government worked the way it was originally intended, the electoral college would never allow trump to become president. Instead we get electors simply acting on their party’s behalf.
 

allisolm

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One down and I don't know how many more still to go...


"Former President Donald Trump has lost the first of several attempts to throw out a lawsuit that seeks to block him from the 2024 presidential ballot in Colorado"

“The Court has no difficulty concluding that it is to the benefit of the general public that, regardless of political affiliation, only constitutionally qualified candidates are placed on the ballot,”

 

Indus

Lifer
May 11, 2002
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The latest news/take I’ve seen on this is that the fourteenth amendment doesn’t specifically call out the president as being a position that can’t be held by someone who tried to overthrow our government.

Always a freaken loop hole!

If our government worked the way it was originally intended, the electoral college would never allow trump to become president. Instead we get electors simply acting on their party’s behalf.

So many things to fix after the national divorce.
 
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eelw

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Okay directed to appropriate topic

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