Has Donald Trump opened up his son to public scrutiny?

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Stokely

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Look at the people he was popular with, there's your answer. I'm in semi-Maga-land so things are bit skewed, and I also wonder something similar about polls and approval ratings...for example, how are these done? I sure as hell am not answering a random number on my cell, same with email, wouldn't do it in person if accosted, and don't have a landline. I have older Maga relatives who might respond to every one of those.
 

Pens1566

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So in this context it is your belief that voters will like Biden more if he attacks underage children.

In my opinion this is insane and obviously wrong.

To be completely fair, most of them already believe he kills them, skins them, and then drinks their blood. So ...
 

fskimospy

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If Biden uses my or @Pens1566 response it will be attacking Trump with son as a foil. It would be a humorous clever attack. It will also show the Dem base Biden is willing to hit back. People do like fighters and Dems fall short on that front.

Follow-up question, why did the likes of Rush Limbaugh get more popular when he attacked an underage child?
I agree with that approach because it's not attacking the son, it's attacking the dad.

As far as why Rush became more popular when he attacked an underage child it's because there's a large swath of America that likes it. I mean Rush basically pioneered the post-policy GOP where the main goal is to 'own the libs' as opposed to any larger policy objective.

I think the overlap between people who enjoy attacks on underage children and people who are plausible Biden voters is very small, while the overlap between people who dislike that sort of thing and are plausible Biden voters is very large. Like when people talk about disliking Trump one of the most popular answers is always shit like this - why on earth would Biden want to emulate Trump's most disliked traits?
 

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I agree with that approach because it's not attacking the son, it's attacking the dad.

As far as why Rush became more popular when he attacked an underage child it's because there's a large swath of America that likes it. I mean Rush basically pioneered the post-policy GOP where the main goal is to 'own the libs' as opposed to any larger policy objective.

I think the overlap between people who enjoy attacks on underage children and people who are plausible Biden voters is very small, while the overlap between people who dislike that sort of thing and are plausible Biden voters is very large. Like when people talk about disliking Trump one of the most popular answers is always shit like this - why on earth would Biden want to emulate Trump's most disliked traits?
As much as I would like the Democrats to go low on these scum sucking parasites it will only alienate their own normal people base so why bother. Magats have shown there is no bottom to their evil. Stay high President Biden.
 
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Moonbeam

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If Biden uses my or @Pens1566 response it will be attacking Trump with son as a foil. It would be a humorous clever attack. It will also show the Dem base Biden is willing to hit back. People do like fighters and Dems fall short on that front.

Follow-up question, why did the likes of Rush Limbaugh get more popular when he attacked an underage child?
For the same reason that some Democrats think it would benefit Biden to do the same. We hate ourselves and some survived by becoming victim haters and some hating victimizers. Hate seeks revenge and a lust to see others suffer. The whole reason for conscious evolution is to gain a say in who you want to be. Going low takes you low. There isn’t an upside. The place to express hate is in when engaged in the process of therapy. The Buddha sat under the Bo tree and felt it all.

Who will want to evolve who does not see that feeling worthless is why we act as if it were true. There is only one monster to defeat and it is within.
 

Moonbeam

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As much as I would like the Democrats to go low on these scum sucking parasites it will only alienate their own normal people base so why bother. Magats have shown there is no bottom to their evil. Stay high President Biden.
This is a moral position that in my opinion must arise from and also provide you with an inner sense of satisfaction, an inner certainty that you are operating on a higher plane. I would suggest that those ‘scum sucking parasites’ as you refer to them, do not have a similar sense of that kind of inner pride and that, for them, is punishment enough. As long as they stay at the bottom of the moral barrel, they will never know the inner value of virtue. This is a satisfaction that transcends ego and is real.

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fskimospy

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As much as I would like the Democrats to go low on these scum sucking parasites it will only alienate their own normal people base so why bother. Magats have shown there is no bottom to their evil. Stay high President Biden.
Yes exactly - while I think attacking underage children who have done nothing themselves to enter the political sphere is a shitty thing to do regardless I am not so moral as to not at least entertain the thought if it looked like it would be effective. To me this is a combination of shitty/outright counterproductive though.

I think this stems from people seeing Republicans be relentlessly shitty for years and they are justifiably angry about it so they want to do it back, but no matter the results in 2016 I think the Obamas were right on the substance. Descending into a shit talking/child insulting fight with Trump isn't going to make his voters like you more, it's going to make your own voters like you less.
 
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So in this context it is your belief that voters will like Biden more if he attacks underage children.

In my opinion this is insane and obviously wrong.
It’s my context to stop being aloof schmoe’s. You get hit you hit back, it’s very simple why is this concept difficult to understand.
If the former President doesn’t want his 17 year old son being made fun of he shouldn’t feature him in troll posts.
 

repoman0

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It’s my context to stop being aloof schmoe’s. You get hit you hit back, it’s very simple why is this concept difficult to understand.
If the former President doesn’t want his 17 year old son being made fun of he shouldn’t feature him in troll posts.
If hitting back at some meaningless minor child is how we win then we’re fucked anyway

In what world is it a good idea for a bunch of 70 year old politician men to be seen attacking members of the next voting generation lol. There’s a reason the GOP is hemorrhaging young voters, just let them kill themselves off naturally.
 
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If hitting back at some meaningless minor child is how we win then we’re fucked anyway

In what world is it a good idea for a bunch of 70 year old politician men to be seen attacking members of the next voting generation lol. There’s a reason the GOP is hemorrhaging young voters, just let them kill themselves off naturally.
Okay keep going high when they go low.
 

repoman0

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Okay keep going high when they go low.
I think the kid is probably a useless spoiled little prick and I’d laugh if someone in politics said so. I can think that and laugh about the idea while recognizing that insulting him would be a turnoff and unlikely to achieve literally anything whatsoever except maybe negative press.

He also might turn out to be perfectly fine despite his rotten family and then you look like a foot in mouth dick.
 

HomerJS

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If hitting back at some meaningless minor child is how we win then we’re fucked anyway

In what world is it a good idea for a bunch of 70 year old politician men to be seen attacking members of the next voting generation lol. There’s a reason the GOP is hemorrhaging young voters, just let them kill themselves off naturally.
Why have Democrats not learned a way to punch back? Example: Obamas pick for SCOTUS was stolen. Today we have a corrupt SCOTUS. The Senate Judiciary Committee should have started public hearings yesterday. They've done little more than sit back and bitch about it. Where is the fight? Meanwhile we get endless Hunter Biden hearings. Even if nothing comes from them Righties are implementing death by 1K cuts.

We need to see a Republican with a black eye or a bloody nose.
 
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fskimospy

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It’s my context to stop being aloof schmoe’s. You get hit you hit back, it’s very simple why is this concept difficult to understand.
If the former President doesn’t want his 17 year old son being made fun of he shouldn’t feature him in troll posts.
Because it’s irrelevant. The only thing you should care about is if it makes Biden more likely or less likely to win in 2024.

If I understand you correctly you think insulting Trump’s underage child will make Biden appear tough and this will appeal to more voters than insulting children will lose him.

I think this idea is nuts. The people who want this are Democratic partisans Biden has locked up anyway. The people who would dislike it are the suburban women who were instrumental in Biden’s victory. It would be campaign malpractice.
 
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HomerJS

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Because it’s irrelevant. The only thing you should care about is if it makes Biden more likely or less likely to win in 2024.

If I understand you correctly you think insulting Trump’s underage child will make Biden appear tough and this will appeal to more voters than insulting children will lose him.

I think this idea is nuts. The people who want this are Democratic partisans Biden has locked up anyway. The people who would dislike it are the suburban women who were instrumental in Biden’s victory. It would be campaign malpractice.
No one is suggesting Biden do that. Frontal assault like that is as ham-handed as "terrorist fist jab". We've given a few examples on how that picture can be used against Trump.

I'm soapboxing here but Dems stay silent and don't fight and the public thinks everyone is as corrupt as the Republicans.
 
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fskimospy

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Barron Trump is not a Republican by definition because he is not old enough to be registered to vote.
This is a good point but in addition is the idea that you’re going to shit on a kid because his asshole dad mentioned him? Do people here apply that principle in the rest of their lives?

Barron Trump may be a horrendous piece of shit but really we have no idea and like anyone it’s not his fault who he was born to. Once he’s an adult and chooses to insert himself like Trump’s other shitbag kids then have at him. Until then, stop being crazy.
 
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fskimospy

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No one is suggesting Biden do that. Frontal assault like that is as ham-handed as "terrorist fist jab". We've given a few examples on how that picture can be used against Trump.

I'm soapboxing here but Dems stay silent and don't fight and the public thinks everyone is as corrupt as the Republicans.
The OP for this thread is directly suggesting Biden, or at least Democrats, do this.
 
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Because it’s irrelevant. The only thing you should care about is if it makes Biden more likely or less likely to win in 2024.

If I understand you correctly you think insulting Trump’s underage child will make Biden appear tough and this will appeal to more voters than insulting children will lose him.

I think this idea is nuts. The people who want this are Democratic partisans Biden has locked up anyway. The people who would dislike it are the suburban women who were instrumental in Biden’s victory. It would be campaign malpractice.
Okay keep going high when they go low. Have a good time with that.
I am not, I am going lower.
 
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It is notable that you can’t provide any plausible argument as to how this will make Biden more likely to win.
When did that come into play?
As I said have fun going high when while morons throw shit at you 24/7. You want to do that you are free to do so.
I am giving Barron one free pass then he’s fair game on the second incident. Former President and his boys want to play that way it is fine by me. I will gladly play.
 
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The apple doesn't fall far from the tree. In this instance, the apple rolled off the tree trunk and landed near the roots. Both Trump and his son are Fire Dogs. Outspoken pricks.


He has the potential to be far worse than his dad. No wonder Trump is proud of him.
 

fskimospy

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When did that come into play?
As I said have fun going high when while morons throw shit at you 24/7. You want to do that you are free to do so.
I am giving Barron one free pass then he’s fair game on the second incident. Former President and his boys want to play that way it is fine by me. I will gladly play.
So you’re fine with losing so long as you get to shit on underage children.

Like I said, you’re insane.
 
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