Has Intel ever come straight out and said that AMD processors suck...

[NFS4]

...b/c AMD is resorting to doing that now. I really don't think it was appropriate for Sanders to say what he did (reminds me of good 'ol Bubba)

http://cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-6558519.html


<< Characteristically, Sanders took several swipes at his rival, saying Intel had to make aggressive price cuts on its high-end Pentium 4 chips because it is a &quot;dud&quot; and a &quot;lousy product.&quot;

&quot;You ought to tell them that,&quot; he told analysts. &quot;You ought to send them home!&quot; >>

 

[Windogg]

It's not the first time AMD had done something like that. Anyone else remember the comment about Intel being a slow lumbering 800lb gorilla and AMD being a small and fast chimp?

 

[Modus]

Sanders may have been agressive, but that's his style. Practically every interview he does, he uses David and Goliath imagery such as today's &quot;pushed out of the ring by a Sumo wrestler&quot;. He never looses a chance to attack Intel, and in a way, he's right about the P4. At the price they're asking for the P4, it is a lousy product. They'd have to cut prices nearly in half to make it a reasonable purchase compared to AMD's offerings.

PR battles between tech companies like this are common. I'd say nVidia's vicious attack on the upstart Kyro II chipset in their infamous &quot;sales assistance PDF&quot; came far closer to crossing the line. Sanders' comments depend on your point of view; some of nVidia's comments were plain lies.

In the end, no one really cares. Anyone naiive enough to belive what a company spokesman or president or sales brochure tells them deserves whatever course of action he is prompted to.

Modus

 

[NFS4]

<< PR battles between tech companies like this are common. I'd say nVidia's vicious attack on the upstart Kyro II chipset in their infamous &quot;sales assistance PDF&quot; came far closer to crossing the line. Sanders' comments depend on your point of view; some of nVidia's comments were plain lies. >>


It seems like a one-sided battle to me b/c Intel never addresses AMD's lashings. Intel is in a position where they don't have to answer to AMD. In essence, Sanders is just talking to a brick wall.

 

[shathal]

AFAIK Intel doesn't address AMD, because it - as a market leader - does not comment about competition (that is behind it, in its own view).

Personally, I prefer Intel's somewhat cleaner approach - more appropriate to a business. Sander's comments aren't very well qualified (I mean such things coming from a company that can't even benchmark properly to save it's life...) and are rather ... well, un-business like &amp; inflammatory.

AFAIK, Intel hasn't done something similar.

This doesn't mean that Intel ignores AMD - quite the contrary. It just seems that publically they are IMHO a lot more polite. I'm still sure the PR depts. of the 2 companies would love to be at each other's throats .

 

[Windogg]

Intel is in a Catch-22. If they do respond they look like a bully. Seems keeping their mouth shut is the best policy. Like Modus said, everything must be taken with a grain of salt since company PR usually involves a lot of puffery.

 

[Sugadaddy]

<< It seems like a one-sided battle to me b/c Intel never addresses AMD's lashings. Intel is in a position where they don't have to answer to AMD. In essence, Sanders is just talking to a brick wall. >>



That's cuz Jerry shafted them so bad they don't know what to respond.

 

[huanaku]

Sanders is just talking to a brick wall

Agreed. I like AMD processors, but flaming is not going to get them a bigger marketshare.

 

[Keego]

I like agressiveness like that, he is talking smack and Intel wont respond (their 50,000 monkeys are trying to write a response right now but they cant get their P3 origional 1.13ghz typerwriters working)

 

[nam ng]

<< Personally, I prefer Intel's somewhat cleaner approach - more appropriate to a business. Sander's comments aren't very well qualified (I mean such things coming from a company that can't even benchmark properly to save it's life...) and are rather ... well, un-business like &amp; inflammatory.

AFAIK, Intel hasn't done something similar. >>


Have you heard about Intel's somewhat cleaner approach on nVIDIA's nFORCE?
Any here take PR's technical accuracy seriously?

 

[shathal]

Well - generally PR stuff generally goes straight in my bin - they deserve no attention .

As to Intel's response to nForce - PM me a link - would be interested in that. AFAIK I know (at least around Intel's enginners) it's mostly a &quot;so what?&quot; reaction &amp; they're not flaming NVIDIA or AMD for it. As for PR ... pls update me .

 

[nam ng]

It was titled &quot;Intel poo-poos on nVIDIA's chipset&quot; at Bjorn3D by Antaeus.

 

[thephew]

AMD needs to spend some cash on marketing. Show a 30 second commercial that says &quot;1.7 Ghz Intel Pentium 4 with 512 MB of RDRAM: approx $650. 1.4 Ghz AMD Tbird with 512 MB of DDR RAM: approx $280.&quot; Then show how the two systems will be neck and neck in every major application. Grandma isn't going to even think to buy an AMD system unless she sees on TV that she is throwing her money away with Intel. All us enthusiasts already know AMD is a no-brainer, but the rest of the world won't know until they start to advertise correctly.

 

[JellyBaby]

Here's a novel though: let the technology speak for itself. Of course here you have two essentially identical products, one just priced higher than the other. I guess then the plan calls for spreading FUD, creating colorful TV commercial figures, picking on capacity issues, etc...unless one side or the other innovates and comes up with a product that buries the competition...hmmm.

 

[Windogg]

The commercial idea is nice but there are so many ways to fudge benchmarks. I'm sure you could make a Cyrix C3 beat a AMD T-Bird with the right code.

Windogg

 

[LuNoTiCK]

Only one thing pisses me off about AMD. They keep delaying their products. I remember they originally were like how they were going to have the 1.5ghz palomino out by January. They delay everything.

 

[noxipoo]

<< In an interview, Intel Vice President Anand Chandrasekher rejected Via's claims that computers will run faster using its chipset than with Intel's 850 chipset. >>

wait what? anand?

 

[Keego]

<< Only one thing pisses me off about AMD. They keep delaying their products. I remember they originally were like how they were going to have the 1.5ghz palomino out by January. They delay everything. >>



I wonder if it's production or design.. or both.. dang mexican workers











(no offense to anyone that was meant as a joke)

 

[Bumboy]

hehehe puny AMD is making all the hits they can get on the big buy while they still can

 

[Remedy]

But do you think his comment has some truth to it?

 

[CocaCola5]

Isn't it more fun to hear it straight from the top then from the bottom as in the case with Intel.

 

[Jiggz]

In a business world like ours, in a &quot;Dogs eat Dogs&quot; type of competition, AMD being the underdog has to make noise to get attention. And by gawd it's working! And what's really amazing is that it benefits everybody except Intel.

 

[BFG10K]

No - probably because they're in no position to make such comments. AMD's processors are cheaper and faster than Intel's. That's a fact.

 

[Wingznut]

What would the reaction of everyone here be, if Craig Barrett (Intel CEO) said similar things about AMD?

Heh, not nearly the same, and this thread would be well over 100 replies by now.

nam ng, what's your point about that article?

 

[mrbios]

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