Has Intel ever come straight out and said that AMD processors suck...

[chuckieland]

go AMD go

 

[extra]

i love it when companies go out and get dirty and bash each other, makes everything more interesting...and it takes bawls!

 

[Macro2]

RE:It seems like a one-sided battle to me b/c Intel never addresses AMD's lashings. Intel is in a position where they don't have to answer to AMD. In essence, Sanders is just talking to a brick wall."

Intel has slung it's share of mud, Andy Grove even called AMD the "Milli Vanilli" of the chip industry. Are you old enough to remember "Mlli Vanilli"?

 

[zippy]

Put some meat on the grill boys, cuz this is gonna be a good ol' fashioned flame fest!

 

[NFS4]

<< RE:It seems like a one-sided battle to me b/c Intel never addresses AMD's lashings. Intel is in a position where they don't have to answer to AMD. In essence, Sanders is just talking to a brick wall.&quot;

Intel has slung it's share of mud, Andy Grove even called AMD the &quot;Milli Vanilli&quot; of the chip industry. Are you old enough to remember &quot;Mlli Vanilli&quot;? >>


Mili Vanilli??!!! AHhahaha, I remember those losers

 

[Wingznut]

&quot;AMD you know it's true. Ooh, ooh, ooh.&quot;

 

[TravisBickle]

I wish I could sing like Milli Vanilli.
(I mean, the studio ghost-singers obviously!)

the P4 is a dud, wake up dudes... Tualatin is embarassing Foster Xeons, read Ace's Hardware (must be true, got it from the Inquirer ). Intel is prepared to strangle the PIII core really because P4 has a higher clock speed which is a good ad for them and it cost too much money to get beat by 6 year old tech. when nForce shows what can be done with DDR, P4+Rambus will look sick.

&quot;nothing if not controversial&quot;

 

[Remedy]

Milli vinilli, yeah well one of died like a year back so lets keep off them for a while

 

[NFS4]

<< Milli vinilli, yeah well one of died like a year back so lets keep off them for a while >>


Are you sure he didn't &quot;fake&quot; his own death???:Q

















OK, OK, that was a low blow

 

[351Cleveland]

One of the PRIMARY reasons I use Intel chips... AMD is a bunch of spoiled babies. Plus, you don't hear much in way of compatibilty problems with Intel chips... where as 90% of beta programs I get involved with, you hear &quot;issue with AMD processors&quot; being thrown around a lot.

 

[sandorski]

I don't even recall Intel mentioning AMD, nevermind bashing them. If Intel starts bashing AMD, AMD will only benefit as many Intel diehards would begin wondering why Intel is so worried. On the flipside, the underdog(AMD in this case), almost always benefits from just getting some sort of publicity.

351Cleveland: Yea, we all hear a lot of &quot;AMD incompatibility&quot; &quot;problems&quot;, but 99.9% of the time they are based on someone jumping to conclusions. Just for fun, name 1 incompatibility that is truly AMD related. Have fun!

 

[Scouzer]

Most of the recent &quot;AMD&quot; issues are due to the VIA 686B southbridge conflicting with a Sound Blaster Live! series cards...and this is due to VIA, not AMD.

 

[NFS4]

<< Most of the recent &quot;AMD&quot; issues are due to the VIA 686B southbridge conflicting with a Sound Blaster Live! series cards...and this is due to VIA, not AMD. >>


But they're guilty by association

 

[Keego]

<< I don't even recall Intel mentioning AMD, nevermind bashing them. If Intel starts bashing AMD, AMD will only benefit as many Intel diehards would begin wondering why Intel is so worried. On the flipside, the underdog(AMD in this case), almost always benefits from just getting some sort of publicity.

351Cleveland: Yea, we all hear a lot of &quot;AMD incompatibility&quot; &quot;problems&quot;, but 99.9% of the time they are based on someone jumping to conclusions. Just for fun, name 1 incompatibility that is truly AMD related. Have fun! >>



Sorry I'm not Cleveland, but what about the whole AMD and Windows 95 fiasco?

 

[Recneps]

<< 351Cleveland: Yea, we all hear a lot of &quot;AMD incompatibility&quot; &quot;problems&quot;, but 99.9% of the time they are based on someone jumping to conclusions. Just for fun, name 1 incompatibility that is truly AMD related. Have fun! >>



I find that my T bird will not even fit in the 168 pin slot on my BX mainboard damn that incompatibity I hate AMD.

 

[Rectalfier]

Intel seems to have a policy of not aknowledging AMD's existance. It seems any comments by Intel about AMD would just be free PR.

And besides, we are talking about Jerry Sanders here.

 

[Desmoquattro]

pretty funny...but why do they have to say that? makes them look cheap. is it true that AMD was formed by a bunch of people from Alpha?...so if Intel just bought Alpha...hmmmmmm...

 

[351Cleveland]

sandy-

Ummm.. MW3 _had_ problems with AMD processors and not allowing the animations on the game menus. Sacrifice had rumored problems, none that I found. Other stuff I cannot tell you about... otherwise I would have to kill you.

Dang... you know, there is another well-known one, but for the life of me I cannot think of it right now.... and remember I did say BETA programs. Most of the problems are fixed once the software ships. However, I HAVE seen patches released after shipment to &quot;fix problems with AMD chips.&quot; If I had the proper motivation, I would look for one... but I don't.

Also keep in mind that many of the problems I hear about/see in testing involve older K6-2 processors... very few reports of problems with anything K7 or later.

Plus, I NEVER said that one was better than the other... I merely stated the reasons for preferring one to the other. Even if all the reports of AMD compatibility are totally BOGUS, when was the last time you heard someone say &quot;it won't work on that Intel processor.&quot; You NEVER hear it.

Also, (realize I am no programming expert, but) I have also heard that programs compile differently on different processors. This could explain some problems with the same software between the two processors, since I would ahve to guess most programs are compiled in Intel chips (just guessing here).

 

[BFG10K]

Tualatin is embarassing Foster Xeons,

Yeah, I've heard that the Tualatin is overclocking so well it's even surprised Intel. I've also heard that it's ready now but they've delayed it so they can get faster P4s out first.

 

[Cooltech2k]

No Worse than to high school rivals talkin smak about each other.... Just on a larger scale

 

[sandorski]

Kyguy: You mean the k6-2 350+ problem? If so, Microsoft admitted it as Win 95's fault.

351Cleveland: Well, never heard of any of those problems. I have MW3 and never had a problem with it. There is a reason why people never have a problem with Intel cpus. That reason is they never blame an Intel cpu, but they do blame an AMD cpu, because like many they have heard of &quot;AMD incompatibilities&quot;.

This issue always reminds me of a guy on another messageboard who insisted that WinNT didn't work on any AMD cpu. Seems that long ago he had bought a k6 233 and couldn't manage to install WinNT on it, hence he concluded that WinNT didn't work on AMD cpus. After posting his &quot;fact&quot;, person after person reported their successes with WinNT and various AMD cpus. People with k6s, k6-2s, k6-3s, and even the then new Athlons were reporting success, but the original guy refused to believe it, for he &quot;knew&quot; that it couldn't be true.

Another case of &quot;AMD incompatibility&quot; can be found here. You may notice that this page has been around for a couple years, but was updated to include the Athlon in it's ridiculous assertion.

These 2 situations don't disprove &quot;AMD incompatibilities&quot;, but they do show how people can assume an incompatibility, then present it as fact.