Has Liberalism Jumped the Shark?

[PJABBER]

The libs are in da house!

 

[her209]

This has been talked about since the Republicans took majority control of the House, Senate, and Presidency.

 

[Red Dawn]

Far left Liberals annoy me but the idiots that call themselves Conservatives are unbearable..including the OP.

 

[PJABBER]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Far left Liberals annoy me but the idiots that call themselves Conservatives are unbearable..including the OP.

Sigh, I am not a conservative and neither am I a liberal. Those labels are passe because liberals are reactionary and conservatives are liberal these days.

I am not of the right or the left, certainly have no claim to pretentiousness, but probably would accept a label of practical libertarian and strict Constitutionalist. As an admittedly amateur Constitutional scholar I would argue that it doesn't really take much to understand the intent of the Founding Fathers of this country. The problem is, there is little in the current debate which acknowledges the value of the debate that occurred then and the effectiveness of the outcome.

However, I may be unbearable. My wife has told me so. Or was that unbeatable? I'll have to get back to you on that.

 

[PJABBER]

A kid asked me the other day, "Hey mister, what's a liberal?"

I said, " A liberal used to be someone who wanted to liberate people from oppression and totalitarianism, like in WWII. A conservative used to be an isolationist and a protectionist."

"Well, mister, if that's what they used to be, what are they now?"

"Kid, the people are the same but now the liberal is a conservative and the conservative is a liberal. I guess they each convinced the other that they were right."

 

[Lanyap]

Originally posted by: PJABBER

Originally posted by: TheRedUnderURBed

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: TheRedUnderURBed
It probably does look like liberalism has overextended yourself if you listen to talk radio, luckily no one gives a shit what they or their listeners think outside of their own little outraged world they made for themselves.

Outrage gives people who feel worthless a sense of importance and meaning.

People I find who are addicted to outrage at others regularly either have no life or cannot deal with their own.

So true.

Good catch.

 

[umbrella39]

Originally posted by: PJABBER
Hmmm. The Bush record vs. a Massachusetts liberal with delusions of grandeur?

And there you have it.... :roll:

 

[manowar821]

It's hard to respect people who don't even use key words of their "talking points" in the correct context.

 

[UberNeuman]

Originally posted by: manowar821
It's hard to respect people who don't even use key words of their "talking points" in the correct context.

Now you just shut your mouth, PJABBER is bringing enlightenment onto the liberal masses - his voice carries the truth, his ideas carries the spirit of... of...

non-speak in the form of propaganda.......

 

[senseamp]

No, but conservatism has. Reagan revolution dead.
Liberalism just getting started.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: PJABBER

Originally posted by: PJABBER

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: PJABBER

I have never seen a monkey cornered by a tiger that was liberal.

Who are you calling a liberal, the monkey or the tiger?

Neither. I didn't say liberal, I said not liberal. I never saw one that was liberal.

You are saying both the monkey and the tiger are conservatives?

You still have not responded to this important question.

That is a new question. I consider tigers to be apolitical, simply a stimulus that causes monkeys to reach instant decisions as to their platform leanings.

A liberal monkey will share his bananas and evolve into a human, whereas the monkey who is under attack, shits in his pants, throws his bananas and scrambles up a tree to hoot and rage and snarl and throw sticks and insults for the rest of the day. They have evolved into the Republican congress. The liberal one day will build a zoo for tigers whereas the conservatives are a zoo.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: PJABBER

Originally posted by: alchemize
Moonbeam jumped the shark in 2003 when he decided to support Kerry. It's been 6 years since you sold out, time flies, eh buddy?

OMG, Moonbeam, say it ain't so!

Are we still waiting on Kerry's signed Standard Form 180 and a chance for the electorate atlarge and the press to access his Navy files? Like Obama's long form birth certificate, are Kerry's original discharge papers, award citations and DD-214 state secrets?

In my rather worthless opinion Bush was the greatest disaster ever to hit this nation. We may in fact be done for, things are so bad. I don't know, but I truly regret that Bush was ever elected. I consider the people who didn't vote for Kerry over Bush to be totally brain dead. I'm sorry if that is you. It couldn't have been more obvious, in my opinion, that Bush was going to be a disaster and he was every bit a disaster and more.

 

[manowar821]

Originally posted by: alchemize
Moonbeam jumped the shark in 2003 when he decided to support Kerry. It's been 6 years since you sold out, time flies, eh buddy?

Really...? You.. You're going to attack him for realizing that voting for Bush was a bad idea? Holy fuck.

 

[shadow9d9]

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Funny, while you see liberalism all I see is more of the same. But the real issue, I believe, is that Obama, while running for change, was handed the Bush disaster instead. All the effort of this administration is going, not into progress, but in saving us from drowning.

We are in the doldrums with nothing to do but bail. It was clear what would happen if we elected a disaster like Bush and now we pay the piper.

By the way, people are full of doubt because they hate themselves and the kind of pieces you post are there to sew more seeds of doubt. Hope will always be destroyed by power seekers who manipulate to stay in power. They have no hope and have replaced it with lust for money and control.

I am going to make some Folgers Instant in a few with milk and play some Warcraft and maybe have a piece of old bread. Then I'll go out and water my tomato.

The real issue is, Obama, while running for change, has no real change in mind. Just a different flavor of kool aid. I'm glad you like grape better than cherry.

Or perhaps you're one of those "we're just not spending enough money, waging wars in the right places, and spying on the right americans" liberals, and that's what you classify as "handling the bush disaster".

Who you be?

Ah yes, It's Allsurmise with his endless opinions stated as facts. Oh wait, he said 'or perhaps' even if with 'perhaps' the same implication.

But the cases you mention are all a result of Republican disaster. Republicans as you well know are the party of fear thine enemy and kill him first if you can. It is the party of cowards who have no faith in the American legal system and believe only in raw power. It is the party of cowards morons and fools, as it were, but anyway.....

As the Republicans made a demon of Communists and China only a Republican could open that door. Democrats are soft of defense. Say that a million times till you believe it.

So you imbeciles with your irrational fears have put the Democrats in the corner. There is no way any intelligent Democrat is going to allow the Republicans to paint him as soft of defense.

If those issues are important to you and, I know they are not, you just love to point to hypocrisy, then get the Republicans to lead the way. Only Republicans can compromise with the dread monster under the bed.

Name one single, significant policy that is substantially different than Bush's. And you can't use torture (although I would argue torture isn't significant, it's symbolic and effects zero citizens of the US)

UHC, opening cuban embargo, embryonic research...

 

[shadow9d9]

Btw, what is with the conservative talking point spam headlines lately? Paid shill much?

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: shadow9d9

Originally posted by: alchemize
Name one single, significant policy that is substantially different than Bush's. And you can't use torture (although I would argue torture isn't significant, it's symbolic and effects zero citizens of the US)

UHC, opening cuban embargo, embryonic research...

War in Afghanistan, US-Iranian relations, Gitmo closure

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: manowar821

Originally posted by: alchemize
Moonbeam jumped the shark in 2003 when he decided to support Kerry. It's been 6 years since you sold out, time flies, eh buddy?

Really...? You.. You're going to attack him for realizing that voting for Bush was a bad idea? Holy fuck.

That should give you just some idea of the delusional character of self hate. Any admission of error on this idiots part would clearly cause him to fall apart. He remains convinced the world is flat even though almost everybody else absolutely knows its round. It is a hideous disease.

But I believe we all have it and we are all idiots in some fashion or other. It's just that in extreme cases it's easier to see.

 

[BMW540I6speed]

If Liberalism has "jumped the shark", Conservatism is right behind them. Todays fraud conservatives are yesterdays liberals all dressed up in right wing drag.

 

[PJABBER]

Originally posted by: BMW540I6speed
If Liberalism has "jumped the shark", Conservatism is right behind them. Todays fraud conservatives are yesterdays liberals all dressed up in right wing drag.

I can't quite figure out what you are saying, but the imagery is kinda scary.

 

[Toasthead]

All politicians are the same...in the back pocket of special intrest groups. They stand for what they are told to stand for and support bills and legislation that keep money pouring into their coffers. they are ALL crooked

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: manowar821
--snip--

You, on the other hand, I'm having trouble deciding when you jumped the shark. It's either when you were ready to "DECLARE WAR!" against Foxnews and start hacking it with your script kiddie buddies, or when you pranced around 9/11 conspiracy threads calling everyone dumb sheep.

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: BMW540I6speed
If Liberalism has "jumped the shark", Conservatism is right behind them. Todays fraud conservatives are yesterdays liberals all dressed up in right wing drag.

Conservatism jumped the shark with Medicare Part D.

 

[OrByte]

Jump the Shark?

wishful thinking....

 

[GuitarDaddy]

Originally posted by: MrMatt
I've always considered myself a liberal, but with the rise of Obama and his drove of slack-jawed retard followers I'm pretty much a moderate, or slightly liberal moderate at this point. The funny thing is, nowadays if you're a moderate, liberals consider you an extreme conservative, and conservatives consider you an extreme liberal. Our country is too polarized, there's these two extremes, with no happy medium anymore. So yeah, I think liberalism has not only jumped the shark, it's drowning in it's own self-righteous vomit.

It's a result of the disappearing middle class, it has become a have and havenots society the moderate middle class has become insignificant. Party lines have even become blurred as the recently powerful "Blue Dog" Dems prove, money is stronger than ideals for most politicians. Elected in traditional red districts with the financial backing of traditional republican contributors like Insurance and Pharma cos. these Blue Dogs are basically republicans wearing a blue hat.

 

[Stuxnet]

Originally posted by: JSt0rm01

Originally posted by: alchemize
I don't think

You got that right.

Oh I see what you did there... you crafty little man, you!