Haswell-e prices leaking

[Ajay]

Under embargo until: Augustus 29.

Why is the uncore so big? It looks bigger than a regular i7.

Not really sure. There should be on die RAS features for servers, but I'm having trouble thinking of much else.

 

[Ajay]

Wow, $389 on the 5820K is a very good deal for users who run many threaded tasks. If this puppy overclocks to 4.6Ghz, it's lights out for 4790K for many users who keep their systems for 4-5 years. The 28 lanes is not much of a limitation since you can run PCIe 3.0 8x/8x/8x/4x. PCIe 3.0 at even 4x = PCIe 2.0 x8x which isn't much of a bottleneck:

http://www.techpowerup.com/mobile/reviews/Intel/Ivy_Bridge_PCI-Express_Scaling/23.html

You could easily do 3 and even 4 high end GPUs on the 5820k. Good to see Intel giving enthusiasts the 8-core offering at $1K which at least clearly separates itself as an Extreme series, instead of minor clock speed and cache bump. I have a feeling this X99 platform will become even more popular once BW-E drops and DDR4 pricing subsides to DDR3 levels.

Can't wait to see overclocking results on this lineup.

Yes, some good points. I've never used more than 2 GFX cards in SLI, but I do plan on keeping whatever system I build for 5 years. The extra pair of cores comes in handy when doing occasional heavily threaded work or for running a couple of VMs. I just hope the 5820K can really OC well (may take custom H2O and lapping the CPU for best results).

 

[kimmel]

Not really sure. There should be on die RAS features for servers, but I'm having trouble thinking of much else.

QPI Links for multi-socket Xeon.

 

[AdamK47]

Reports of Haswell-E shipping with a non-soldered IHS.

http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/20140822_663093.html

 

[Grooveriding]

Reports of Haswell-E shipping with a non-soldered IHS.

http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/20140822_663093.html

Yeah I saw that, although it's labelled as 2011 and 1150, may just be for 1150. We know the Xeons are soldered and HW-E chips will be Xeon rejects. Hopefully this is not the case.

 

[n0x1ous]

:thumbsup: Can't wait.

Too bad it releases on a Friday so I'll have to wait until the following week for delivery.

you getting the 8 core?

 

[Grooveriding]

you getting the 8 core?

Yeah 8 core & X99 Deluxe from Asus. http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=36651177&postcount=48

 

[n0x1ous]

Yeah 8 core & X99 Deluxe from Asus. http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=36651177&postcount=48

Beautiful board. I Look forward to reading your results and impressions.

 

[Makaveli]

Yeah 8 core & X99 Deluxe from Asus. http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=36651177&postcount=48

That is a very pretty board.

Will be keeping an eye on that one

 

[RaistlinZ]

Best looking mobo I've ever seen. I wish it wasn't $500.00 though.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Does Haswell-E have FIVR too? I'm guessing yes.

 

[SOFTengCOMPelec]

Does Haswell-E have FIVR too? I'm guessing yes.

Yes it does seem to have integrated voltage regulators.

Source

 

[ShintaiDK]

Does Haswell-E have FIVR too? I'm guessing yes.

Absolutely. And so will Broadwell-E.

 

[SOFTengCOMPelec]

Absolutely. And so will Broadwell-E.

With up to 8 cores (Haswell-E), it may limit the overclocking capabilities and/or force potentially expensive water cooling (or potentially noisy extreme air cooling), as we will be talking about lots of watts (total of normal power consumption plus voltage regulators), I would imagine.
But it may not be too bad, as I am unsure, what the extra percentage of power dissipation, is increased (caused) by the voltage regulators being on-die.

EDIT: Reading more into FIVRs seems to show they have benefits as well. So maybe I have to wait for the reviews to come out, before passing judement.

Intel's® 4th generation Core™ microprocessors are powered by Fully Integrated Voltage Regulators (FIVR). These 140 MHz multi-phase buck regulators are integrated into the 22nm processor die, and feature up to 80 MHz unity gain bandwidth, non-magnetic package trace inductors and on-die MIM capacitors. FIVRs are highly configurable, allowing them to power a wide range of products from 3W fanless tablets to 300W servers. FIVR helps enable 50% or more battery life improvements for mobile products and more than doubles the peak power available for burst workloads.

Source

 

[AdamK47]

I stopped by the Micro Center local to me (Cincinnati) to see what they had. They have 4 motherboards at launch. The Asus X99 Deluxe, Gigabyte X99 Gaming G1 Wifi, ASRock X99 Extreme 4, and (I think, not too sure) ASRock X99 Extreme 6. Forgot to ask about pricing on the boards. I did, however, get pricing on memory. They have the 16GB Corsair Dominator DDR4 2800 for $499.99 and the 16GB Vengeance LPX DDR 2800 for $399. Cheaper than what's being sold on Newegg. No 32GB kits though There were lower spec memory listed, but I didn't bother looking at them.

They had the CPUs and motherboards in stock, but were waiting on the memory to come in. I hope they get them in by Friday. It would be kinda weird if they sold the CPU and motherboard without any memory for it.

 

[Makaveli]

I stopped by the Micro Center local to me (Cincinnati) to see what they had. They have 4 motherboards at launch. The Asus X99 Deluxe, Gigabyte X99 Gaming G1 Wifi, ASRock X99 Extreme 4, and (I think, not too sure) ASRock X99 Extreme 6. Forgot to ask about pricing on the boards. I did, however, get pricing on memory. They have the 16GB Corsair Dominator DDR4 2800 for $499.99 and the 16GB Vengeance LPX DDR 2800 for $399. Cheaper than what's being sold on Newegg. No 32GB kits though There were lower spec memory listed, but I didn't bother looking at them.

They had the CPUs and motherboards in stock, but were waiting on the memory to come in. I hope they get them in by Friday. It would be kinda weird if they sold the CPU and motherboard without any memory for it.

Thanks for the update.

i'm not liking the pricing i'm seeing for DDR4 currently at that speed and latency.

 

[njdevilsfan87]

I need to stop looking at images of that ASUS X99 Deluxe else I'm going to do something financially irresponsible and end up with an 8 core Haswell, X99 Deluxe, and some very expensive Dominators which I know will not feel any different from my current build.

 

[AdamK47]

Is the Dominator memory really worth it over Vengeance LPX? They have the same specs. I know it has a nicer heat spreader, but is that really needed at 1.2V for DDR4?

 

[exar333]

I need to stop looking at images of that ASUS X99 Deluxe else I'm going to do something financially irresponsible and end up with an 8 core Haswell, X99 Deluxe, and some very expensive Dominators which I know will not feel any different from my current build.

Haha! This!!

The MB is just designed so well. The only odd thing is the M.2 slot up away from the cards, but that kind of makes sense to allow for more flexibility with placing x16 GPUs.

I also like the low-profile setup to allow for long GPUs with the sideways-mounted SATA connections too. MBs drive me nuts when you struggle to connect/disconnect SATA devices due to low GPU card clearance.

AMAZING color scheme too. I know that doesn't really matter, but this thing would look awesome as you unbox it.

 

[AdamK47]

I'd probably get the Asus X99 Deluxe if it were made for 4-Way SLI. I liked my Asus X79 Deluxe when I had it.

 

[Grooveriding]

Is the Dominator memory really worth it over Vengeance LPX? They have the same specs. I know it has a nicer heat spreader, but is that really needed at 1.2V for DDR4?

Dominator is purely aesthetics. It doesn't even overclock very well, at least my sticks don't.

 

[AdamK47]

Placed and order for two 16GB 2800 Vengeance LPX kits from Amazon with next day shipping (Prime). Will be cheaper than getting them from Micro Center. I hope filling all 8 slots doesn't hamper overclocking.

 

[Rvenger]

I think I may do a 6 core. I just have to see what they are actually pricing the 5820k at first.

 

[Kenmitch]

Any word on microcenter pricing yet?

 

[Techhog]

Reports of Haswell-E shipping with a non-soldered IHS.

http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/20140822_663093.html

No way. Since these come from Xeons, which we know are soldered, making a second IHS type for the same chip can't possibly save them money.

Edit: Nevermind. That link is definitive. Wow. Well, that's it for soldier on consumer CPUs. If even one person gets over 4GHz on the 5960X, it'll be a miracle. Why is there not a thread on this?