Haswell-e prices leaking

[exar333]

Does HW-E socket need new mounting mechanism for coolers? If so, I hope that Noctua will release one for NH-D14.

Everything is the same from 2011 to 2011-3, except the pin layout. Existing mounting 2011 hardware will work fine.

 

[FatherMurphy]

All the gory details: http://videocardz.com/51380/intel-haswell-e-i7-5960x-i7-5930k-i7-5820k-pricing-revealed

So tempted to get that 5820k but I know I don't need it....

 

[Grooveriding]

 

[DooKey]

5960X will be mine when some mature motherboards and higher clocked DDR4 is released in a few months.

 

[cbn]

Die size: 356 mm2

 

[AdamK47]

The die map does not match the de-lidded 5960X shown here: http://wccftech.com/intels-flagship...features-soldered-thermal-interface-material/

 

[kimmel]

The die map does not match the de-lidded 5960X shown here: http://wccftech.com/intels-flagship...features-soldered-thermal-interface-material/

Looks like it's just missing a column of cores. If I had to guess wccftech wasn't a HEDT part but a larger die Xeon.

 

[Sweepr]

Die size: 356 mm2

As a comparison AMD Vishera 8C (FX8xxx/9xxx) is 315mm², Sandy Bridge-E (8C/16T with 2 cores disabled) is 435mm². Makes me wonder what's the die size of the massive 18C/36T Haswell-EP.

 

[AdamK47]

Looks like it's just missing a column of cores. If I had to guess wccftech wasn't a HEDT part but a larger die Xeon.

I guess using the actual die and showing the 4 cores as being disabled just isn't as sexy.

 

[kimmel]

I guess using the actual die and showing the 4 cores as being disabled just isn't as sexy.

Or judging by the layout in the two pictures they have 8 core die a 12 core die and a 18? core die. I wonder when people will stop assuming that all Intel products are a single die fused off. (this hasn't been true for awhile now)

Die size for those other core counts would be pretty easy to calculate from the dimensions in that picture and a few simple assumptions.

 

[Makaveli]

5960X will be mine when some mature motherboards and higher clocked DDR4 is released in a few months.

i'm on the same line of thinking.

Still waiting for performance numbers but I may push this upgrade back to December or January.

 

[Ajay]

i'm on the same line of thinking.

Still waiting for performance numbers but I may push this upgrade back to December to January.

Yeah, it's looking like DDR4 3200 CAS 12 will start giving DDR3 a run for it's money. Fortunately, I'm currently looking at 2H15 for my upgrade - so hopefully some really fast RAM will be available (and hopefully won't cost as much as a hexacore HW-E).

 

[frozentundra123456]

So just curious. Does Intel save any money be have less PCI-E lanes on the 5820K, or is it just being done to segment the market? Can they use dies with some defective lanes for the 5820, or is it just totally an arbitrary thing?

In any case, 400.00 for a hex core sounds good if it overclocks decently. Otherwise, overall for gaming the 4790K might still be a better choice.

 

[Enigmoid]

As a comparison AMD Vishera 8C (FX8xxx/9xxx) is 315mm², Sandy Bridge-E (8C/16T with 2 cores disabled) is 435mm². Makes me wonder what's the die size of the massive 18C/36T Haswell-EP.

15C Ivytown is 541 mm^2, 4.31B transistors.

 

[WaitingForNehalem]

What a beast, can't wait to get the 5820K! My current rig is really getting long in the tooth.

 

[blake0812]

Does this mean the other i5 cpus will have a price drop?

 

[Jumpem]

I'm not sure what the benefit is if you are not running several GPUs. Clock speeds of the i7-5820K are 700 MHz to 800 MHz lower than the i7-4790K. Is four channel memory and DDR4 enough to make up the difference?

 

[tarlinian]

I'm not sure what the benefit is if you are not running several GPUs. Clock speeds of the i7-5820K are 700 MHz to 800 MHz lower than the i7-4790K. Is four channel memory and DDR4 enough to make up the difference?

For applications that can heavily utilize a larger number of threads the two extra cores are worth a lot more than the 700 MHz clock speed drop...

 

[Ayah]

For some applications the two extra cores are worth a lot more than the 700 MHz clock speed drop...

or.. 4 extra cores.

 

[Jumpem]

For applications that can heavily utilize a larger number of threads the two extra cores are worth a lot more than the 700 MHz clock speed drop...

I guess I should have specified for gaming purposes.

 

[witeken]

Under embargo until: Augustus 29.

Why is the uncore so big? It looks bigger than a regular i7.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Under embargo until: Augustus 29.

Why is the uncore so big? It looks bigger than a regular i7.

More PCI-E lanes?

 

[Arachnotronic]

Holy cow, that is a gigantic die.

 

[RussianSensation]

Wow, $389 on the 5820K is a very good deal for users who run many threaded tasks. If this puppy overclocks to 4.6Ghz, it's lights out for 4790K for many users who keep their systems for 4-5 years. The 28 lanes is not much of a limitation since you can run PCIe 3.0 8x/8x/8x/4x. PCIe 3.0 at even 4x = PCIe 2.0 x8x which isn't much of a bottleneck:

http://www.techpowerup.com/mobile/reviews/Intel/Ivy_Bridge_PCI-Express_Scaling/23.html

You could easily do 3 and even 4 high end GPUs on the 5820k. Good to see Intel giving enthusiasts the 8-core offering at $1K which at least clearly separates itself as an Extreme series, instead of minor clock speed and cache bump. I have a feeling this X99 platform will become even more popular once BW-E drops and DDR4 pricing subsides to DDR3 levels.

Can't wait to see overclocking results on this lineup.

 

[Arachnotronic]

Wow, $389 on the 5820K is a very good deal for users who run many threaded tasks. If this puppy overclocks to 4.6Ghz, it's lights out for 4790K for many users who keep their systems for 4-5 years. The 28 lanes is not much of a limitation since you can run PCIe 3.0 8x/8x/8x/4x. PCIe 3.0 at even 4x = PCIe 2.0 x8x which isn't much of a bottleneck:

http://www.techpowerup.com/mobile/reviews/Intel/Ivy_Bridge_PCI-Express_Scaling/23.html

You could easily do 3 and even 4 high end GPUs on the 5820k. Good to see Intel giving enthusiasts the 8-core offering at $1K which at least clearly separates itself as an Extreme series, instead of minor clock speed and cache bump. I have a feeling this X99 platform will become even more popular once BW-E drops and DDR4 pricing subsides to DDR3 levels.

Can't wait to see overclocking results on this lineup.

I definitely agree. While on X79, the only chip that really made sense to me was the 4930K, this time around it's the 5820K and the 5960X that make sense, depending on what your budget is.