Hatchback recommendation?

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The 5 is pretty small considering its occupancy specs. It's narrower than the Focus hatchback and less than a foot longer (the Odyssey, for example, is almost two feet longer than the 5). It's more of a hatchback that happens to have a small third row than a minivan.

Yep. It's really a very small footprint vehicle. And I'm not joking about the turn radius. Up to model year 2009 (I think that was the final year of that style) it had a turning circle of like 34 feet. You could almost u-turn in the same lane

2008/2009/2010 were the best years IMHO. Body style looked the best and they had the 5spd transmission. It went up to the 2.5L for the 2012 revision and took on that goofy front chin and styling that was a bit frumpy.
 

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The '07 Versa hatch was great, but every model year after that they found new corners to cut. It really isn't the same car any longer.

We have two Versas in my family, one is an '08, I forget the other one, but one is a 5-speed auto (actually that might a 4-speed auto iirc) & one is CVT. Both are excellent. The CVT is actually really well-done, but the geared automatic is nearly as smooth too. My friend just bought the new redesigned Versa Note hatchback & I feel like they ruined it. It's a nice car & all, but it's very narrow inside now & went from feeling like a nice hatchback to very much an economy car (although it does have nicer materials inside & WAY better MPG now!). At 6', I've been comfortable when I've driven the Note hatchbacks prior to the Note redesign. Reliability has been good & they are relatively cheap.

OP, be sure to check out Truecar - they have a Used section now:

https://www.truecar.com/

A lot of the 2011/2012 Versas are going for $10k in my area.
 
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Honestly a VW golf may be a pretty good fit, but I personally think the Mazda3 is the better option. If you're grabbing an older one maybe even the mazdaspeed.

My wife LOVES vw (heck, the beetle could work if I buy compact car seats), but I've heard very bad things about reliability. Are the problems over blown? Which are more trouble free - diesel or regular, if that makes a difference? She likes German styling but I think the best we could afford is Asian/ ford.
 
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Any thoughts on a Mini Clubman? Found a great deal on one but I know there are reliability issues. We're literally driving it a 3 mile roundtrip putting 15 miles/week on it, and keeping the minivan for long trips, would the shady reliabilty really effect us?
 

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Depends on what you're willing to put up with. To me a car with poor reliability makes for a fun weekend/3rd car. I wouldn't want to deal with something as primary transportation if it's always in need of repair.
 

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I had a current gen Mazda 5 for a rental for a week driving 3 guys around all of which had kids (I don't) and we all liked it. It has much of the practicality of a minivan just at ~75% scale, while being just as easy to maneuver pretty much as a small hatch, and driving more like a small hatch (although sitting upright sort of like a minivan which I don't care much for, but not too bad all things considered)


I've never driven or been in a Fit though, which I imagine would be a very good choice (though no 3rd row). After all, FBB lived in one
 

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My wife LOVES vw (heck, the beetle could work if I buy compact car seats), but I've heard very bad things about reliability. Are the problems over blown? Which are more trouble free - diesel or regular, if that makes a difference? She likes German styling but I think the best we could afford is Asian/ ford.
I've never owned a VW, but I imagine their reliability isn't horrible. A friend of mine has a 2012 Jetta and it has had zero problems so far. Obviously nowhere near conclusive but I think their reputation for issues is a bit overblown.

What isn't overblown is the repair costs when something does go wrong. They're German, so not cheap. I would take a regular for gas prices and general ease of use, plus their diesel emissions issue they have going on.
 
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Ok, so the more I talk the my wife the more she thinks ditching the minivan is a good idea (it's currently garaged until the weekends). Mazda 5 is in the lead now, but we're also considering wagons. Heck, there's a great deal on a 2010 bmw 3 series wagon that's super tempting - we don't drive much and I need a hobby, was thinking an extended warranty plus babying the car will relieve some of the long term reliability concerns. Otherwise the Mazda 5 seems great
 

michal1980

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Ok, so the more I talk the my wife the more she thinks ditching the minivan is a good idea (it's currently garaged until the weekends). Mazda 5 is in the lead now, but we're also considering wagons. Heck, there's a great deal on a 2010 bmw 3 series wagon that's super tempting - we don't drive much and I need a hobby, was thinking an extended warranty plus babying the car will relieve some of the long term reliability concerns. Otherwise the Mazda 5 seems great

mazda 5 is an old design, if you care about safety you'd pass.
 
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how often does one buy a 'new' car?

mazda5 is also marginal in a side crash.

Yeah, I usually check safety metrics last but should have checked first this time - woaw, not pleased with the results.

I'm sorta all over the place with this because it's my wife's car and her wishes (first she wanted sporty, then compact, now wagon / minivan replacement). Sorry for seeming indecisive, but any wagon recommendations?
 

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2011 or last year of the Hyundai Elantra Touring.

Hatch is pretty big for a stroller and more. The only downside is the fuel economy is not quite as good as it should be because of the 4spd auto. But if your not driving fast or great distances, the room inside makes up for the fuel economy. They are very cheap used but decent cars. Pretty sure you can get one for well below your budget.
 

Herr Kutz

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We have two Versas in my family, one is an '08, I forget the other one, but one is a 5-speed auto (actually that might a 4-speed auto iirc) & one is CVT. Both are excellent. The CVT is actually really well-done, but the geared automatic is nearly as smooth too. My friend just bought the new redesigned Versa Note hatchback & I feel like they ruined it. It's a nice car & all, but it's very narrow inside now & went from feeling like a nice hatchback to very much an economy car (although it does have nicer materials inside & WAY better MPG now!). At 6', I've been comfortable when I've driven the Note hatchbacks prior to the Note redesign. Reliability has been good & they are relatively cheap.

OP, be sure to check out Truecar - they have a Used section now:

https://www.truecar.com/

A lot of the 2011/2012 Versas are going for $10k in my area.

I have an 08' Versa hatchback with the CVT and it has been amazingly reliable. The only time it has ever been in the shop was due to a couple idiots hitting my vehicle and for earl changes. I have 167k on it now and nothing ever breaks. Was offered $2k for it as a trade in the other day.
 

yh125d

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Funny, had a 2002 volvo s80 that I liked a lot other than the constant trips to the dealership toward the end of it's life. Considering the v60 for sure.

I don't know much about the V60, but my dad had an S60 R he loved, and currently has an XC70 with about 260k on it he loves as well. It needs some suspension work now (driving on a lot of poorly kept backroads and highways) and if he doesn't fix the one he has, he'll just replace it with another one with fewer miles

Some volvos have optional seats in the rear where the cushion lifts up to make it a booster seat for kids a little small for the normal seat
 
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2011 or last year of the Hyundai Elantra Touring.

Hatch is pretty big for a stroller and more. The only downside is the fuel economy is not quite as good as it should be because of the 4spd auto. But if your not driving fast or great distances, the room inside makes up for the fuel economy. They are very cheap used but decent cars. Pretty sure you can get one for well below your budget.

Weirdly, they're super overpriced in the tri-state area - with some digging I've found suburaru's for not much more... I like korean cars though (no drama), I'll keep looking
 
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I have an 08' Versa hatchback with the CVT and it has been amazingly reliable. The only time it has ever been in the shop was due to a couple idiots hitting my vehicle and for earl changes. I have 167k on it now and nothing ever breaks. Was offered $2k for it as a trade in the other day.

My first new car was a 2008 versa and I have very fond memories, other than sluggish acceleration (which was forgivable considering the price). We upgraded because we needed more space then (and it's not on our list now for that reason, since we're looking to replace and not add to the minivan). But, yeah, liked the heck out of the car..
 

bryanl

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Interesting choice - the 3rd row is tempting since we may be able to get rid of the minivan entirely. But my wife really wants something small to
Illegally park quickly to run our kid to school, Not sure if a mini-mini van is the right choice

The Mazda5 is not only shorter than other minivans but also narrower, by about 8-10 inches, but only two people can fit in each row of seats. The third row is cramped for non-short adults, as is access to it, but you can also enter the third row between the two seats of the middle row.
 

Ryland

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Im actually looking to replace my 2007 Mazda 3 Grand Touring and am looking at:

~2013 Mazda 3 Grand Touring
~2013 Hyundai Elantra GT
~2013 Subaru Impreza Hatchback

You can definitely fit 2 car seats in the back of a Mazda 3 HB.
 
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