Hauppauge pvr250mce $95 shipped

[Bry]

OK guys, I got my Roslyn card to work. Basically the most current version of BeyondTV doesn't work with Roslyn with the shspvr drivers. The following combo worked for me:

Drivers:
From SHSPVR 2.92.21350
ftp://ftp.shspvr.com/download/media...pvr_roslyn_oem_model_28xxx/mce_2.92.21350.exe

BeyondTV:
Version 3.4 Build 1217 (older version)
BTV_V343_FULL_1217.exe

I'm going to leave that since it was working for me. But if you want to try the latest BeyondTV, you should use the latest drivers from Snapstream (this is what they include with their Roslyn combo package):

http://kb.snapstream.com/Kb.aspx?kbid=1208

Good luck!

 

[Pinan]

Originally posted by: TerryMathews
Sage records everything you watch. Has to do with how these cards work. Basically, you can watch in preview mode or record in Mpeg2 mode. Sage elects to record everything, to cover itself incase you want to record something you've already started watching.

Ok........weird...but ok. So preview mode is non-record? I didn't see Preview.

Thanks for the note Terry.

 

[psxjunky]

Originally posted by: Pinan
A question regarding SageTV. I'm using ver. 1.4 and it's odd to say the least. As soon as I click on Live TV, it begins recording! There is no Record start or stop button to be found. What the heck? This one behaviour is a complete turnoff. Heh. Perhaps I have missed something.

It also completely ignores my IR control. Even though I click on 'Configure IR control', it states later in the setup,'No remote'.

Can a Sage guru lend a hand?

The card itself is working fine.

The best place to get SageTV related technical help is at the SageTV forums. There are some extraordinary helpful people there, plus the developers frequent the forums as well ... so try your questions there.

Here is what I can offer ...

1. If you have already registered ver 1.4, definitely consider upgrading to Beta ver 2.0.17 for free. You can download the beta here. I don't see live tv much, but I think this "always" recording feature has been modified in one of the latest betas.

2. About the IR problem, you really need to be more specific before anyone can help you. What remote are you using ? What IR sensor ? Have you configured custom commands etc etc. I have used three different remotes with Sage so far and all have worked excellent !

Again, use the SageTV forums ... that is the single most excellent source of SageTV tech support

 

[pcalchemy]

http://www.pcalchemy.com has just added the following SageTV 1.4 / WinTV-PVR Bundles to our website:

SageTV 1.4 / PVR250MCE Bundle - $139.95
SageTV 1.4 / PVR250MCE / Streamzap Remote Bundle - $164.95
SageTV 1.4 / PVR350 Bundle - $199.95

These bundles offer tremendous savings. The PVR250MCE cards are the 32552 cards.

We also offer all the SageTV 1.4 Products at a discount, check out the SageTV 1.4 Packages.

 

[RossMAN]

I want my PVR-250 and Beyond TV to work out of the box.

I'm tempted to refuse delivery of the snapstream.com order and order only the AMITY card elsewhere.

What do you guys think?

 

[psxjunky]

Originally posted by: pcalchemy
http://www.pcalchemy.com has just added the following SageTV 1.4 / WinTV-PVR Bundles to our website:

SageTV 1.4 / PVR250MCE Bundle - $139.95
SageTV 1.4 / PVR250MCE / Streamzap Remote Bundle - $164.95
SageTV 1.4 / PVR350 Bundle - $199.95

These bundles offer tremendous savings. The PVR250MCE cards are the 32552 cards.

We also offer all the SageTV 1.4 Products at a discount, check out the SageTV 1.4 Packages.

WOW !!! These are EXCELLENT deals ! Wish *I* had access to these deals back in November

Thanks for offerring these packages and thanks for posting here !

 

[psxjunky]

Originally posted by: RossMAN
I want my PVR-250 and Beyond TV to work out of the box.

I'm tempted to refuse delivery of the snapstream.com order and order only the AMITY card elsewhere.

What do you guys think?

I say forget about BTV and pick up the SageTV 1.4/PVR250MCE bundle that PCAlchemy just posted above

If you want remote also, get an IRMan for $35 or USB UIRT for $50. StreamZap is pretty lame when it comes to controlling SageTV. Both IRMan and USB UIRT has built-in support in SageTV and both allows using YOUR favorite remote to control SageTV.

 

[ViRGE]

Originally posted by: Bry
OK guys, I got my Roslyn card to work. Basically the most current version of BeyondTV doesn't work with Roslyn with the shspvr drivers. The following combo worked for me:

Drivers:
From SHSPVR 2.92.21350
ftp://ftp.shspvr.com/download/media...pvr_roslyn_oem_model_28xxx/mce_2.92.21350.exe

BeyondTV:
Version 3.4 Build 1217 (older version)
BTV_V343_FULL_1217.exe

I'm going to leave that since it was working for me. But if you want to try the latest BeyondTV, you should use the latest drivers from Snapstream (this is what they include with their Roslyn combo package):

http://kb.snapstream.com/Kb.aspx?kbid=1208

Good luck!

Where did you get BTV 1217? All I have is 1334, which came with the card.

Edit: How did you get a Roslyn working with 1217? According to the release notes, 1334 is the first version to support it

 

[Bry]

Originally posted by: ViRGE
Where did you get BTV 1217? All I have is 1334, which came with the card.

I got 1217 from some other forum, but I don't remember where. If somebody is willing to host a 40mb file, I'd be happy to upload it somewhere.

 

[ViRGE]

I found a link on the SnapStream forums, and I'll give it a try.

 

[RossMAN]

Originally posted by: Bry

Originally posted by: ViRGE
Where did you get BTV 1217? All I have is 1334, which came with the card.

I got 1217 from some other forum, but I don't remember where. If somebody is willing to host a 40mb file, I'd be happy to upload it somewhere.

YGPM

 

[psxjunky]

Be careful when you say an older version of BTV is "supporting" the Roslyn. Just because it is working with the Roslyn card does not mean it is actually taking advantage of the hardware encoding features of this card (which is why you spent so much more in the first place, right ? to get hardware encoding).

I believe older versions of BTV will work with Blackbird cards ... just not use the hardware encoding feature and will do software encoding instead.

To check if it is doing hardware or software encoding, just check the CPU usage when a recording is going on. If it is using hardware encoding, the CPU usage will be pretty low ... say around 10%. If you see a high CPU usage (over 50%) then it is definitely using software encoding, which voids the purpose of having this card in the first place. If you are happy with software encoding, you might as well use the LeadTek TV2000XP for half the price ...

 

[pcalchemy]

Originally posted by: psxjunky
I say forget about BTV and pick up the SageTV 1.4/PVR250MCE bundle that PCAlchemy just posted above

If you want remote also, get an IRMan for $35 or USB UIRT for $50. StreamZap is pretty lame when it comes to controlling SageTV. Both IRMan and USB UIRT has built-in support in SageTV and both allows using YOUR favorite remote to control SageTV.

pcalchemy.com worked closely with Streamzap over the last month to improve the SageTV support, you should download the latest software from Streamzap and give it a try. Also, the Streamzap remote has built-in ability to control just about any application without loading additional software.

 

[psxjunky]

pcalchemy: Appreciate the feedback, and it is great to know that StreamZap now offers better integration with SageTV. I just honestly don't think that StreamZap has enough number of buttons to be able to effectively use all the custom commands that SageTV offers.

I strongly believe the extra money for remote support is much better spent on getting an IRMan or USB-UIRT, which will work with virtually ANY remote ... not just the StreamZap PC remote.

I have used StreamZap in the past to control Sage and am now using an IRMan/MX500 combination ... and I honestly don't think StreamZap can even come close to doing the things that I can do with this combination now.

StreamZap is a nice little PC only remote and works pretty well for what it does. I just think that the extra money for remote support is much better spent in getting an IRMan or USB-UIRT ... especially if anyone needs an IR BLASTER also to control Cable/Satellite boxes ... since USB-UIRT will double up as an IR Blaster plus IR Receiver.

 

[RossMAN]

How much is ground shipping for pcalchemy.com?

It would be nice if AT'ers were offered free shipping *nudge nudge*

 

[huesmann]

Originally posted by: psxjunky
Not if you put it to sleep

What if you just quit to desktop, does it leave a big honkin' file in your PVR directory?

 

[psxjunky]

Originally posted by: huesmann

Originally posted by: psxjunky
Not if you put it to sleep

What if you just quit to desktop, does it leave a big honkin' file in your PVR directory?

Oh no ... absolutely not. If all you are worried about is disk space, you can rest assured, since Sage (at least the 2.0 beta versions) does an excellent job of automatically deleting these extra files that it records when browsing live TV.

I know this had been a concern for many people for quite some time and I have seen this discussed time and again in the SageTV forums ... but I think everyone finally came to the conclusion that what Sage does now (at least the 2.0 beta) is the right thing and you never need to worry about diskpace issues for anything you didn't intentionally record.

 

[ViRGE]

Originally posted by: psxjunkyIf you are happy with software encoding, you might as well use the LeadTek TV2000XP for half the price ...

The nice thing about the hardware cards, however, is that they tend to offer better image quality. Besides higher quality electronics to do the filtering, the MPEG2 encoder also filters out a good deal of noise(as it's necessary for better compression ratios). For live TV, there's definitely a noticeable difference.

 

[RossMAN]

Does the IRMan/MX500 combination work with Beyond TV as well?

 

[psxjunky]

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: psxjunkyIf you are happy with software encoding, you might as well use the LeadTek TV2000XP for half the price ...

The nice thing about the hardware cards, however, is that they tend to offer better image quality. Besides higher quality electronics to do the filtering, the MPEG2 encoder also filters out a good deal of noise(as it's necessary for better compression ratios). For live TV, there's definitely a noticeable difference.

Oh yeah, absolutely ! There is no doubt that hardware encoder cards are MUCH better for TV recording.

I thought we already discussed this in great detail and was being sarcastic more than anything else when I mentioned using the software encoder card

 

[Pinan]

Originally posted by: psxjunky
[2. About the IR problem, you really need to be more specific before anyone can help you. What remote are you using ? What IR sensor ? Have you configured custom commands etc etc. I have used three different remotes with Sage so far and all have worked excellent !

Again, use the SageTV forums ... that is the single most excellent source of SageTV tech support

The remote I am using came with the card, as did the sensor. Silver with colorful buttons. I did not configure any commands, as SageTV said that it would do it, although, as I stated above, it then said that there was not one. In fact, it stated to "reststart IR support in Start/ Programs......", though it was not there. Hmmmmm. Hope this is clear.

No biggie though, I'll check in the SageTV forum too.

Thanks once again


Btw. WinTV 2000 does use the hardware encoder......right? I can only assume it does as it comes with the card.

 

[stingygrrl]

Originally posted by: Pinan

Originally posted by: psxjunky
[2. About the IR problem, you really need to be more specific before anyone can help you. What remote are you using ? What IR sensor ? Have you configured custom commands etc etc. I have used three different remotes with Sage so far and all have worked excellent !

Again, use the SageTV forums ... that is the single most excellent source of SageTV tech support

The remote I am using came with the card, as did the sensor. Silver with colorful buttons. I did not configure any commands, as SageTV said that it would do it, although, as I stated above, it then said that there was not one. In fact, it stated to "reststart IR support in Start/ Programs......", though it was not there. Hmmmmm. Hope this is clear.

No biggie though, I'll check in the SageTV forum too.

Thanks once again


Btw. WinTV 2000 does use the hardware encoder......right? I can only assume it does as it comes with the card.

I bought the reatil version of teh pvr250 and am running the sage trial. I had to install the hauppage software, incl the remote software, THEN the sage software. I read that in teh sage manual or on their site.

In the sage install on the first screen, there's a box to check to have it support the hauppage card. That's all there is to it.

There's also a link in the sage forums to just d/l the remote.ini file (not the correct name , but you know what I mean) see this thread

 

[Pinan]

Ahhhhhhhh. Thank you very much.

 

[psxjunky]

stingygrrl is right. In order to get the Hauppauge Silver remote working out of the box with Sage, you don't need to do ANY customization at all ! Simply check the box in the Sage installer dialog that says "configure support for Hauppauge remote" and you are done !

The irremote.ini file customization is ONLY needed if you need to use the green power button on the Hauppauge remote to start/stop Sage. Otherwise you don't need to worry about the irremote file.

There was a PDF file showing how the Hauppauge Silver remote buttons mapped to the various SageTV commands, and I am trying to find it right now. I will post the link when I get it ... in the mean time I can e-mail the PDF file to anyone that needs it. I don't have hosting capabilities, but if anyone wants to host the file, let me know and I will send it to you.

 

[RossMAN]

Originally posted by: psxjunky
I don't have hosting capabilities, but if anyone wants to host the file, let me know and I will send it to you.

YGPM