I guess I'll be the outlier here and instead of caring about you and trying to keep you safe like the dozen of posters here have been doing, I say don't get vaccinated.
In fact, I suggest you and your whole family not get vaccinated. The country will be better off if people like you exist in smaller and smaller numbers. Just think about it, less people means less resources being used like medical, food, energy, etc, more housing will be available and there will be less traffic too! Your sacrifice will be for the greater good!
You don't seem like the type to believe in evolution but a mass Darwinism event can really help humans evolve into something better. So not only will you be helping your country be great again, you'll be helping the human race.
Sure if people acted like you we'd probably get more verients and could end up with something even nastier but the smart people will continue practicing safe behavior and getting vaccinations while people like you shrink in numbers. Its a sacrifice I'm willing to make even if it means losing a family member or two. After all, I can't want something for someone more than they do and its clear their life or their families life isn't that important.
So do yourself a favor, stop trying to find cherry picked examples of why getting vaccinated is bad, stop pretending to care about the science, stop wasting your time trying to justify your position to strangers on the internet. Instead, go out to where there are lots of people and don't worry about covid, those that were worried about it did what it took to take care of themselves, so you'll have no need to feel sorry about harming people because those who do get sick are just like you and those who don't, well they aren't like you.
Thank you for your sacrifice!
This is fun and you're a funboy so…This shot was not test, pushed out really really fast without any real test done over years of time, so I am not just going to believe the "science" and because billions have taken it and not kicked the bucket yet, or have serious heath problems now because "science" did not have enough time, its in a "emergency (mass trials)" state right now, and do not have the usual:
Side effects may include....
Rectal bleeding
Brain Cancer
Lung Cancer
More severe case of cancer
Loss of motor skills
May forget who you are for weeks at a time
other serious side effect may also occur
Seeing double
Do not drive a car or heavy machinery
loss of awareness
loss of balance
Extreme Gas
Shitting yourself
Stuttering
Going cold turkey off the drug may be worse then going cold off Heroine for over a month of hell (I know this one personally coming off Paxil)
After reading all the garbage mixed in on @funboy6942 posts all I got to say is the more people like him who die off due to covid, the better off the rest of us will be. The time to coddle and attempt to educate the idiotsticks is over. The only sad part is people like @funboy6942 will likely spread their disease before they die a sad and preventable death, but for the most part I dont have any fucks to give to him or his ilk. Go ahead and die, you'll be doing the planet a favor!
There's *A LOT* to unpack on break through cases.
1) Raw numbers still track equal to or better than what vaccine efficacy was tested at (90%-95% prevention of infection). WV is under 5%
2) Age group is *VERY* important. 60 of 74 breakthrough deaths were in the 71+ age range.
3) That age group is already vulnerable due to a lowered immune response due to age. They are more vulnerable due to overall underlying health.
4) That age group was one of the first along with health care workers to get the vaccine. We are finding that efficacy wanes after 8 months. Many of these 71+ were the first people in many states and that 8 month mark is starting to creep up. Combine it with item 3) above and it's why we are pushing for boosters now.
The FDA is getting cranky that the administration is ahead of them on boosters. Normally I'd agree but we've got live data from the UK and Israel to rely on that increasingly looks pretty sufficient to boost the over 60s at a minimum by the 8 month mark. Relatedly the FDA appears basically content to let all the kids in the US just get COVID rather than EUA for the 5-11s like yesterday. Better to be infected than the slim slim slim chance of there being a problem that would blow back on them I guess.
Totally understand, but nothing short of hogtieing the dumbassess and forcing the vaccination into their arms will get the morons to actually take this all seriously and do the right things. So we either forcibly vaccinate the unwilling or the rest of us will be forced to continue to do all the right things and hope for the best, and when new mitigation efforts (vaccines etc) are needed for future variants we do what we can to protect ourselves from them...as for the rest 'em...fuck 'em!Frustrating yes, but it's not for the best of everyone. Infected people are reservoirs for the virus. We have to limit (ideally eliminate-> eradicate) them to stop/slow the virus spread and it's evolution towards new variants.
Delta will not be the last. The longer it sits in the population at a high level means it's a danger to everyone.
I have though the same thing and obviously there would be dire consequences for everyone even those without kids if something went wrong. As another poster said we are living in the Golden Age of dummies...
I also think and I certainly am not an expert why not allow Doctors to prescribe it. That way a non approved vaccination can be given to those who want it for their kids and it also cannot be required because the it could easily be said the Doctor won’t prescribe it, this gives everyone an out and allows those willing to take the risk.
Totally understand, but nothing short of hogtieing the dumbassess and forcing the vaccination into their arms will get the morons to actually take this all seriously and do the right things. So we either forcibly vaccinate the unwilling or the rest of us will be forced to continue to do all the right things and hope for the best, and when new mitigation efforts (vaccines etc) are needed for future variants we do what we can to protect ourselves from them...as for the rest 'em...fuck 'em!
Thanks for points 3 and 4. In my mind I only considered preexisting conditions as a contributing factor of death.There's *A LOT* to unpack on break through cases.
1) Raw numbers still track equal to or better than what vaccine efficacy was tested at (90%-95% prevention of infection). WV is under 5%
2) Age group is *VERY* important. 60 of 74 breakthrough deaths were in the 71+ age range.
3) That age group is already vulnerable due to a lowered immune response due to age. They are more vulnerable due to overall underlying health.
4) That age group was one of the first along with health care workers to get the vaccine. We are finding that efficacy wanes after 8 months. Many of these 71+ were the first people in many states and that 8 month mark is starting to creep up. Combine it with item 3) above and it's why we are pushing for boosters now.
Thanks for points 3 and 4. In my mind I only considered preexisting conditions as a contributing factor of death.
What is the deal with the boosters? Our governor keeps complaining that he's waiting on the feds for the boosters. He wants to get the older folks the booster asap.
His obvious lack of logical deductive reasoning is fairly evident in this thread. Dullard laid it out pretty effen well. Props to him.
Sucks for his kids though...
Thanks for points 3 and 4. In my mind I only considered preexisting conditions as a contributing factor of death.
What is the deal with the boosters? Our governor keeps complaining that he's waiting on the feds for the boosters. He wants to get the older folks the booster asap.
I think the deal comes down to timing. Kids 5 to 12 will be allowed shots soon. Delta is increasing demand for vaccines again. Boosters are being rolled out to those who need it (immunocompromised and similar). Vaccines are finally getting rolled out in resource poor locations. Ultimately having a big surge in boosters right now could create another vaccine shortage, albeit temporary. Boosters in late fall/early winter won't have that issue. Plus, we'll have a lot more data on the subject especially when it comes to mixing and matching vaccines.What is the deal with the boosters? Our governor keeps complaining that he's waiting on the feds for the boosters. He wants to get the older folks the booster asap.
Shitlol! Yeah I commented about fb.He doesn't have kids? Wait, you were talking about funboy and not RedSquirrel? I was talking about the latter.
I think the deal comes down to timing. Kids 5 to 12 will be allowed shots soon. Delta is increasing demand for vaccines again. Boosters are being rolled out to those who need it (immunocompromised and similar). Vaccines are finally getting rolled out in resource poor locations. Ultimately having a big surge in boosters right now could create another vaccine shortage, albeit temporary. Boosters in late fall/early winter won't have that issue. Plus, we'll have a lot more data on the subject especially when it comes to mixing and matching vaccines.
A third vaccine booster for otherwise healthy people so soon (before the antibodies have fully worn off) will have very little impact on the disease. But getting that vaccine into those who are unvaccinated would have a massive impact. Thus the priority is still on getting it into those who are unvaccinated.
That said, I have penciled in on my calendar a booster shot for mid-November.
My daughter had COVID, and was told to wait 45 days by her MD.From what I've seen it appears to be about 90 days (or at least that's the amount of time they recommend you wait before getting vaccinated after contracting COVID). And of course limit exposure (mask up, avoid groups of people especially indoors) and not act like there's no risk.
First off, none of those diseases kill you within days or weeks of contracting the disease, COVID does, and with a vengeance.I'll ask a third time. How do you know this scenario you point out is not actually those who caught Covid? How do you know that if you stay mostly at home and a family member brings in Covid, that in 10 years Covid will not cause you to fall like a fly?
- HIV usually turns into AIDS about 10 years later.
- Chickenpox lies dormant in your body for decades and can become shingles.
- HPV sometimes helps your body get cancer.
- Why are people confident that nothing similar happens with Covid?
Ultimately people have the freedom to make a choice, regardless if that choice will kill them.this NYT Opinion video is great...but also heartbreaking
I think the deal comes down to timing. Kids 5 to 12 will be allowed shots soon. Delta is increasing demand for vaccines again. Boosters are being rolled out to those who need it (immunocompromised and similar). Vaccines are finally getting rolled out in resource poor locations. Ultimately having a big surge in boosters right now could create another vaccine shortage, albeit temporary. Boosters in late fall/early winter won't have that issue. Plus, we'll have a lot more data on the subject especially when it comes to mixing and matching vaccines.
A third vaccine booster for otherwise healthy people so soon (before the antibodies have fully worn off) will have very little impact on the disease. But getting that vaccine into those who are unvaccinated would have a massive impact. Thus the priority is still on getting it into those who are unvaccinated.
That said, I have penciled in on my calendar a booster shot for mid-November.
Ultimately people have the freedom to make a choice, regardless if that choice will kill them.
A third vaccine booster for otherwise healthy people so soon (before the antibodies have fully worn off) will have very little impact on the disease. But getting that vaccine into those who are unvaccinated would have a massive impact. Thus the priority is still on getting it into those who are unvaccinated.