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HamburgerBoy

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My parents have always implied that they don't want me to until at least graduate school, to avoid women deemed of a lower class. Good thing I'm anti-social.
 

gigahertz20

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I read through all of this thread and most people describe the exact same problems I have so I'll share mine. I graduated from high school in 2004, played varsity football there since I was a freshman in high school. There were several girls that were interested in me throughout high school and I just never pursued any until my senior year, I guess I was just too nervous to ask any of them out and afraid that if I was rejected they would spread rumors or something. It was a small school, my graduating senior class was only 80.

Anyways, I ended up dating a girl that moved in next door to me my senior year while in high school after she asked me out, we messed around alot (obviously since she lived next door) I went down on her and she went down on me several times but I never sealed the deal. She wanted it, and I wanted it, but we never had sex and she broke up with me after 3 months for some Emo weird guy that was a total loner. Looking back at it now, I had several chances to bang her brains out but I never did, wasted opportunities......

Anyways, graduated high school and went to Penn State (as you can tell by my avatar), I didn't know a single person when I went there but I made good friends with my freshman year roommate and became really good friends with his friend. There were a few other guys I became friends with, but my entire college experience at Penn State I never dated/asked out/kissed/hugged a single female my entire time there. I went out to 1 party there at a friends frat house but that was it. Drinking/going to clubs has never been my thing and I never made an effort to ask out/talk to any women. Also anxiety, fear, and just being apathetic to the whole dating game and small talk you have to go through were the big factors as well.

Graduated from Penn State in May of 2008 with a degree in IST (Information Sciences and Tech) with a 3.55 GPA. I didn't want to stay in the Northeast area so I moved from PA to Colorado Springs where I have family. I have lived at home since then, and I took some time off after I graduated because I didn't want to work right away. After some time had passed, I started applying for jobs and so far I'm still unemployed and here it is 2011. I even applied to Best Buy and Staples out of desperation several times and never got a single call, I'm guessing they don't want to hire someone that has a college degree. Too inexperienced for a real job and too educated for a retail job. I even have a job recruiter from appleone.com that can't find anything for me.

So really, my situation is quite pathetic, no job, virgin, living at home, parents just signed divorce papers a week ago to end their 33 year marriage (father has been cheating on my mother and no longer wants to be with her), my 16 year old brother has tourette's syndrome which makes him veryyyyy hard to be around, and I'm about to turn 25 years old on Jan. 5th to top it off. Life is fucking splendid! I've always questioned why people would want to commit suicide, and now I have a better understanding of that why. Not that I ever would, but life can be depressing sometimes.
 
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Locut0s

Lifer
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I don't really understand, honestly.. I mean, how do you not talk to women online? lol.. So you have no girls in your IM lists? FFS, 98% of the contacts in my lists are women.

Sorry, not making fun or anything, just truly trying to understand the scope of the situation. You could say that I'm socially awkward, yes.. lol. I have one leg slightly shorter than the other, causing me to walk with a limp.. which makes me goofy and awkward in the first place. I also have amblyopia, further enhancing my goofiness. :awe:

I'm just a normal person though. I get along with anyone, I'm easy to talk to, I listen well, I communicate well.. Shrug. Like I said, if I can get women, anyone can.

Lol. I don't use IM or any other chat program. I guess the reason is that when it comes to social interactions I've never minded interacting when I decide like I want to go out and talk to someone, but I've always hated being contacted at a time or place not of my choosing. I guess it makes me feel vulnerable or something, probably stems from my social-phobia. Again I don't mind talking with people when I feel like it, on IRC, forums, on FB, in real life out in the world. But I've never felt comfortable being able to be contacted by others, which is why I stay away from real time two way IM type programs I guess. I use FB though. Only have 2 or 3 friends on there who are women (who are not family).
 

Locut0s

Lifer
Nov 28, 2001
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I read through all of this thread and most people describe the exact same problems I have so I'll share mine. I graduated from high school in 2004, played varsity football there since I was a freshman in high school. There were several girls that were interested in me throughout high school and I just never pursued any until my senior year, I guess I was just too nervous to ask any of them out and afraid that if I was rejected they would spread rumors or something. It was a small school, my graduating senior class was only 80.

Anyways, I ended up dating a girl that moved in next door to me my senior year while in high school after she asked me out, we messed around alot (obviously since she lived next door) I went down on her and she went down on me several times but I never sealed the deal. She wanted it, and I wanted it, but we never had sex and she broke up with me after 3 months for some Emo weird guy that was a total loner. Looking back at it now, I had several chances to bang her brains out but I never did, wasted opportunities......

Anyways, graduated high school and went to Penn State (as you can tell by my avatar), I didn't know a single person when I went there but I made good friends with my freshman year roommate and became really good friends with his friend. There were a few other guys I became friends with, but my entire college experience at Penn State I never dated/asked out/kissed/hugged a single female my entire time there. I went out to 1 party there at a friends frat house but that was it. Drinking/going to clubs has never been my thing and I never made an effort to ask out/talk to any women. Also anxiety, fear, and just being apathetic to the whole dating game and small talk you have to go through were the big factors as well.

Graduated from Penn State in May of 2008 with a degree in IST (Information Sciences and Tech) with a 3.55 GPA. I didn't want to stay in the Northeast area so I moved from PA to Colorado Springs where I have family. I have lived at home since then, and I took some time off after I graduated because I didn't want to work right away. After some time had passed, I started applying for jobs and so far I'm still unemployed and here it is 2011. I even applied to Best Buy and Staples out of desperation several times and never got a single call, I'm guessing they don't want to hire someone that has a college degree. Too inexperienced for a real job and too educated for a retail job. I even have a job recruiter from appleone.com that can't find anything for me.

So really, my situation is quite pathetic, no job, virgin, living at home, parents just signed divorce papers a week ago to end their 33 year marriage (father has been cheating on my mother and no longer wants to be with her), my 16 year old brother has tourette's syndrome which makes him veryyyyy hard to be around, and I'm about to turn 25 years old on Jan. 5th to top it off. Life is fucking splendid! I've always questioned why people would want to commit suicide, and now I have a better understanding of that why. Not that I ever would, but life can be depressing sometimes.

Lol ok if you've "messed about" with any girl then you don't have an issue. If you've been in a situation where you had a relationship with a girl and even took it so far as everything but intercourse as you did then you aren't in the same situation as I am.
 

Locut0s

Lifer
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My parents have always implied that they don't want me to until at least graduate school, to avoid women deemed of a lower class. Good thing I'm anti-social.

Don't mean to be insulting but if this is true then your parents are pretentious asses.
 

zerocool84

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Nov 11, 2004
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I'm not interested in going out on the prowl for women, clubbing and the like etc... That aspect I'm not interested in.

See, you don't even have the right attitude. You can meet women just going to the market, electronics store, walking down the street, anywhere. You don't have to be on the "prowl" to meet women.
 

Locut0s

Lifer
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See, you don't even have the right attitude. You can meet women just going to the market, electronics store, walking down the street, anywhere. You don't have to be on the "prowl" to meet women.

Oh no no I know that 100% I'm just explaining that that's the only aspect of meeting women that I'm not interested in. lxskllr was suggesting that maybe I'm just not interested and I actually REALLY am I'm just not interested in those aspects that some guys get into. I fully understand that other places are a lot better places to meet women.
 

Born2bwire

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Oct 28, 2005
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Depends where and how you got the woman on your IM list. If you're trolling MySpace, POF, etc, for girls, its just creepy.

I'm not the best person to talk to though, definitely not.

Ha. Yeah, I'm curious how he does it too now. I have this mental picture of him trolling Facebook and the forums sending anonymous PM's for their AIM to anyone that appears to be of the female gender. I've almost always initially met any IM contacts in real life first. I can only recall a couple of people that I would talk on IM that I met exclusively online.
 

Hacp

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We all know you're looking for encouragement and group support locut0s, but I need to tell you right now. Get your life straight! Don't let distractions fuck up your goals in life. What are goals every man has for himself?

1) Find a mate
2) Have a job that supports the mate

If the economy didn't suck, I would say that you should concentrate on #1 first. But the economy sucks. Find a good job, then worry about finding a sex partner. You have already proven that you can't multi-task well so keep it simple.
 

Locut0s

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We all know you're looking for encouragement and group support locut0s, but I need to tell you right now. Get your life straight! Don't let distractions fuck up your goals in life. What are goals every man has for himself?

1) Find a mate
2) Have a job that supports the mate

If the economy didn't suck, I would say that you should concentrate on #1 first. But the economy sucks. Find a good job, then worry about finding a sex partner. You have already proven that you can't multi-task well so keep it simple.

Well I have a short term job, full time, and I'm not looking for a long term job because I'm going back to finish a degree before looking for an actual career.
 

Toonces

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Feb 5, 2000
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I've been eyeing Japan for a trip on my own.

If you decide to head out this way here's an open invitation to stay at my apartment in Shinjuku.:thumbsup:

If you want to check out the Tokyo nightlife, there's a huge range of venues, bars, clubs to get out and meet people. The scene is much less insular than Vancouver, even with the language difference there's no clique culture like I found in the lower mainland.

Traveling to other cities and staying in hostels are also great places to find friends to explore with... and sometimes more:whiste:

You can fill me in on what's changed at NCIX since I left.
 

Born2bwire

Diamond Member
Oct 28, 2005
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If you decide to head out this way here's an open invitation to stay at my apartment in Shinjuku.:thumbsup:

If you want to check out the Tokyo nightlife, there's a huge range of venues, bars, clubs to get out and meet people. The scene is much less insular than Vancouver, even with the language difference there's no clique culture like I found in the lower mainland.

Traveling to other cities and staying in hostels are also great places to find friends to explore with... and sometimes more:whiste:

You can fill me in on what's changed at NCIX since I left.

WARNING: Do not let him drive.
 

ShawnD1

Lifer
May 24, 2003
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Good thing I'm anti-social.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisocial_personality_disorder
Antisocial personality disorder (ASPD) is defined by the American Psychiatric Association's Diagnostic and Statistical Manual as "...a pervasive pattern of disregard for, and violation of, the rights of others that begins in childhood or early adolescence and continues into adulthood."[1]

Antisocial personality disorder is sometimes referred to as psychopathy or sociopathy. However, these two are not the same. Rather, psychopathy and sociopathy are generally considered subsets of ASPD. Some researchers, however, believe that ASPD and psychopathy may be separate conditions altogether.

Characteristics of people with antisocial personality disorder may include:[2]
Persistent lying or stealing
Apparent lack of remorse[3] or empathy for others
Cruelty to animals[4]
Poor behavioral controls — expressions of irritability, annoyance, impatience, threats, aggression, and verbal abuse; inadequate control of anger and temper
A history of childhood conduct disorder
Recurring difficulties with the law
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IMO it sounds like Locut0s has depression. That lack of drive to go out and meet people or do things is called depression. It's not because you're boring or unattractive or anything like that. I have a friend who is very cute and interesting and she behaves the same as any other shut-in. She doesn't come out and do anything unless we drag her along.

What's interesting is that depressed people radically change their behavior when they're intoxicated. One of my best friends is a very boring person, but he's hilarious when he drinks too much alcohol or coffee. After a few coffees, he was paranoid about moths trying to get into his ears (long story), then he said something about animals in the woods are plotting against us and how we need to stop them :awe:
 

AznAnarchy99

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Dec 6, 2004
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I don't like this thread. :|

I dont either. I really dont understand some people sometimes. Not bagging on you or anything, but even the worst of the worst nerds at my school get some action. Dont be like Trident and only settle for supermodels, look for someone normal...
 

guyver01

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Doesn't this thread belong in L&R with the rest of the "how do i talk to women" threads?
 

Eli

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Ha. Yeah, I'm curious how he does it too now. I have this mental picture of him trolling Facebook and the forums sending anonymous PM's for their AIM to anyone that appears to be of the female gender. I've almost always initially met any IM contacts in real life first. I can only recall a couple of people that I would talk on IM that I met exclusively online.

LOL

I don't have a Facebook and haven't been on Myspace for years..

POF is a dating site. When I was on there, generally how it works is you talk to people for a while and if you seem to click, you meet. It's much, much easier to talk on something like Yahoo or SMS texts once you've exchanged a few messages than to keep playing message tag on the site itself.

It has nothing to do with trolling, that's silly. You all have this strange view of women.. They're just people too. They like to talk to men as much as us men like to talk to women. I'm myself online, I'm not faking a persona "trick" them into liking me or anything, I'm genuine - which is how everyone should be.
 

Born2bwire

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LOL

I don't have a Facebook and haven't been on Myspace for years..

POF is a dating site. When I was on there, generally how it works is you talk to people for a while and if you seem to click, you meet. It's much, much easier to talk on something like Yahoo or SMS texts once you've exchanged a few messages than to keep playing message tag on the site itself.

It has nothing to do with trolling, that's silly. You all have this strange view of women.. They're just people too. They like to talk to men as much as us men like to talk to women. I'm myself online, I'm not faking a persona "trick" them into liking me or anything, I'm genuine - which is how everyone should be.

Nothing to do with women. Just that I never made many initial social contacts via online regardless of gender.
 

Locut0s

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisocial_personality_disorder

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IMO it sounds like Locut0s has depression. That lack of drive to go out and meet people or do things is called depression. It's not because you're boring or unattractive or anything like that. I have a friend who is very cute and interesting and she behaves the same as any other shut-in. She doesn't come out and do anything unless we drag her along.

What's interesting is that depressed people radically change their behavior when they're intoxicated. One of my best friends is a very boring person, but he's hilarious when he drinks too much alcohol or coffee. After a few coffees, he was paranoid about moths trying to get into his ears (long story), then he said something about animals in the woods are plotting against us and how we need to stop them :awe:

Umm yes I do suffer from life long depression. Yes alcohol does wonders for me socially. But that is also a BIG danger! Coffee doesn't do anything but make me jittery. That's a seriously lol worthy story about your friends paranoia
 
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I know for a fact that I am certainly not the only socially awkward late 20s guy who hasn't dated. Certainly it's not the norm but I know others as well. And I know there are girls in the same situation. BTW don't bother asking if you don't know my situation already, I've posted enough about that here that most should know At any rate I have of course confided in my family about my issues and my father would really like to see me out there picking up some girls. He doesn't mean go crazy or anything certainly but he'd like to see it. I know this isn't really an unusual view for a parent to have but it doesn't feel a little akward as well. Does anyone else know familys, or family members who have pushed their children, yeah I'm certinaly not a child at this point I know, to 'date'? And know he's not worried I'm gay or anything.

Not this has nothing to do with wanting grandkids or anything like that. He wants to see it for my own emotional and social well being. GFs and sex being obviously an important part of life in general. He worries that I will have regrets later in life if I don't start to get off the ground now. All of these thing ARE TRUE OF COURSE! I want these things too of course it just feels a little odd to have a parent who is pushing you to go for these things too.

Note: Watching Black Swan recently brought a lot of these things to the surface. Good film btw, though not Aronofsky's best.

This guy has good advice.
Robert Sapolsky.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtjU0-dOTLM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9mIDshQPcc&feature=related
 
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Depends on what you mean by that. I certainly have the same biological drive to get laid that most men do,I watch pr0n instead, I'm just not emotionally prepared to go there. I'm not interested in going out on the prowl for women, clubbing and the like etc... That aspect I'm not interested in. Long run I would certainly like to find a GF that I would have something in common with, share interests with etc.., and could be genuine friends with along with being romantically involved with.

Hell no.







Seriously, you should seek locations where you will find women with similar interests as you. Do not look at a woman as how you think of your porn collection. Just have a normal conversation and see how it goes. And listen to your body or you are going to mess up.

If your desire is to get laid only seek those kind of women who only want this too but be ready to share the lady and if you have bad luck, maybe more.

And if you do not feel comfortable around people in general check for Aspergers syndrome. Depression is very common if you are always stressed out.
 
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