Having a Hard Time!

[udontneed2know]

Hey guys, currently having a dilemma with my upcoming build. I keep bouncing around on what to buy with my GPU. Here is what I have looked at and put into my cart at some point or another.

Geforce 460GTX ( Galaxy version about 140$ )
Geforce 550GTX ti ( think it was a 130$ version )
Sapphire Radeon 5770 ( 60$ version )
Radeon 6770 ( think its 140? $ )
Geforce 260GTX ( amazon has some for 110$ or so )

Out of those which would be the best money choice? Is there anything not on the list that is around as good for about 100$?

 

[Plimogz]

of those, at those prices, either the 5770 or the 460GTX.

-550 only has 192 shaders compared to the 460's 336. And the latter can be overclocked to around it's same clock speed if you don't mind hot, noisy power draw.
-6770 is the very very nearly the same as a 5770 but more than twice the cost. wtf there, really.
-260GTX is old hat by now. Too much money for not enough technology.

So, of the two winners, 5770 is arguably the better value (great deal @ 60$). But if you enjoy playing with higher (highest?) settings, the 460 is a considerably more powerful card, whilst still being a very solid value.

 

[Blitz KriegeR]

100% agree with Plimogz on all of his points. You can find a 460 on sale for really cheap some times, just watch out for the SE version; it has a significantly cut down core.

 

[T_Yamamoto]

i agree with Plimogz
its either best price or best performance

 

[happy medium]

Factory overclocked gtx460 1gb for 130$AR.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814133326

Thats if you game at 1600x1050 and above and have a decent cpu.

If not go for a gtx550ti for 104$AR.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814162078

No such thing as a 5770 for 60$, unless you can provide a link or its used.

 

[udontneed2know]

What could an i5 2400 and a Radeon 5770 handle game wise?

The monitor I currently have in the cart is recommended at 1440 x 900 resolution.

The main, upcoming, games I want to play are, of course Skyrim and Diablo III. Not too interested in anything else. Could that combo handle those games at relatively high levels at that resolution?

Also, what would the power draw be? Could I be safe with this combo and a 450w supply?

And if I do actually go with the 460gtx and the i5 2400, what would that supply be?

So basically right now if the 5770 will not limit me too much gaming wise I will go with it for now just to keep the build cost down.

Here is the link for the 5770.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102874

And it is 50$ AR.

 

[hdfxst]

Thats not a 5770,87 dollars for a 6770 is about the cheapest you're going to find one http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=AT-HD6770 the 10 dollar code ends today

 

[udontneed2know]

lol god knows how many times I looked at that dumb thing and thought it said 5770 for some reason.

There goes that plan!

Yeah 5770's are 120$ it looks like.

Which is better a GTX 550 or a 5770?

 

[Blitz KriegeR]

I'd say you can expect piss-poor gaming performance on that 5570. It's not a 5770, which would perfom much better.

I'd say if you plan on playing modern games like Skyrim @ 1440x900 with some candy, best to get the 460 for $130. That is a really good value deal.

 

[Ghiedo27]

I would look at either a 6850 or gtx 460 1gb (newegg links). Both are $130 after rebate with free shipping ($160 before rebate). They're pretty close in performance. At 1440x900 either card would be more than adequate and be able to keep you going for a few years yet.

Regarding a power supply, you can get a good unit like this Corsair cx500 for $60 (again, free shipping). You could probably go cheaper, but there's a pretty big drop off in quality for a savings of maybe $20.

 

[udontneed2know]

Yeah it looks like that will be the way to go for me. Thanks for the help. Sorry about the 5770 thing lol. Don't ask me, I have no idea how I skipped over it.

Main reason for the inking out every penny is due to the budget I have. Trying to keep this entire build around 700$ with a monitor and the OS. But even getting Home Premium at 100$ will force the build into the 750's.

So, thanks to Microsoft's insane OS prices I have been trimming fat and going backwards on my build for the past week or so.

I will start buying the parts this Friday, so now its just time to finalize everything.

Right now the build is ....

COOLER MASTER Elite 330 RC-330-KKN1-GP Black SECC ATX Mid Tower Computer Case


http://detonator.dynamitedata.com/c...com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138296BIOSTAR TH67A+ LGA 1155 Intel H67 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

PNY XLR8 VCGGTX4601XPB-OC GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) OC 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

APEX AL-D500EXP 500W ATX12V Power Supply

Intel Core i5-2400 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz (3.4GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52400

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-8GBRL

Western Digital Caviar Blue WD1600AAJS 160GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

ASUS VH196T-P Black 19" 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor

 

[Plimogz]

i need to take my own implied advice

 

[udontneed2know]

lol. Alright scratch that then. Any power supply with a several page disclaimer will not be bought by me. Weird though how it is a 5 egg product on Newegg.

 

[Plimogz]

sorry. my advice is based on a 2007 review. and the model in your cart is obviously a revised model. I don't know if they changed anything important, like say making it less prone to spontaneous combustion, but at least they did put in a bigger fan... So I'm going to query google a little more here

Anyway. My advice is at best unsupported. at worse bad. please take it with a grain of salt for the moment.

 

[Plimogz]

this seems like the ticket: CORSAIR Builder Series CX430 V2 430W 35$ AR

And should you wish to see what the good people over at jonnyGURU.com had to say about it.

 

[Ken g6]

Pardon me, but I just came over from General Hardware where I've been critiquing builds, and I just had to make some suggestions on yours. First, look for combos...

COOLER MASTER case + Windows Home Premium - $5

Do you need 8GB RAM with your processor, or will 4GB do?

http://detonator.dynamitedata.com/c...com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138296BIOSTAR TH67A+ LGA 1155 Intel H67 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
You have no use for an H67 if you're not getting an SSD. (And you're not at your price range.) Get this $65 H61 if you want to splurge on USB 3.0 support, or this $50 H61 if you just want a basic board with USB 2.0.

I'll let Plimogz's PSU retraction stand. I really wish you had the money for a better ($50 AP) drive.

 

[udontneed2know]

Thanks again. Will 430w be sufficient enough for this current build? I actually got a few leads on Craigslist for some cheaper used monitors that look decent enough. Never used Craigslist though.

 

[udontneed2know]

Pardon me, but I just came over from General Hardware where I've been critiquing builds, and I just had to make some suggestions on yours. First, look for combos...

COOLER MASTER case + Windows Home Premium - $5

Do you need 8GB RAM with your processor, or will 4GB do?

BIOSTAR TH67A+ LGA 1155 Intel H67 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
You have no use for an H67 if you're not getting an SSD. (And you're not at your price range.) Get this $65 H61 if you want to splurge on USB 3.0 support, or this $50 H61 if you just want a basic board with USB 2.0.

At this point i will throw my build over into the general hardware forum and let that conversation move over there. Thanks though!
I'll let Plimogz's PSU retraction stand. I really wish you had the money for a better ($50 AP) drive.

Will it being Micro ATX mess anything up? I just dont want to mess around with the motherboard and just get something that allows me to upgrade in the future. Dont want to have to replace a motherboard anytime soon as that is alot harder then changing out a GPU or HDD.

 

[Ken g6]

Will it being Micro ATX mess anything up?

Not unless you want to use two PCI cards, or two PCI-e cards besides the GPU.

 

[Plimogz]

430W will be plenty. for whatever build you come up with. with power to spare for additions or upgrades down the line. within reason, of course.

 

[toyota]

430W will be plenty. for whatever build you come up with. with power to spare for additions or upgrades down the line. within reason, of course.

with only 28 amps, there will not be very much room to spare with a gtx460. any significant overclocking on that gtx460 and he is close to the limit.

 

[Plimogz]

Hmm. too true. I really need to curb my enthusiasm about this build.

 

[udontneed2know]

lol.

Then the 500w would be the best way to go? Already got one in the cart now. The one suggested above.

I could save plenty of dough going with a H61 micro atx motherboard but I just get jittery going cheap on a motherboard. Or what seems like cheap. Last thing I want is to build this thing and then have a motherboard problem within a year.

 

[Ken g6]

Want a more reliable brand? Here's an ASRock (from Asus) for $55. No USB 3.0 and no original PCI slots.

Want full ATX for some reason? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813157254 No USB 3.0, though.

 

[3DVagabond]

I would look at either a 6850 or gtx 460 1gb (newegg links). Both are $130 after rebate with free shipping ($160 before rebate). They're pretty close in performance. At 1440x900 either card would be more than adequate and be able to keep you going for a few years yet.

Regarding a power supply, you can get a good unit like this Corsair cx500 for $60 (again, free shipping). You could probably go cheaper, but there's a pretty big drop off in quality for a savings of maybe $20.

Yeap. Either of those 2. If power consumption is a concern, and it should be with a 450W PSU, the 6850 uses less power. The 500W Corsair Ghiedo27 linked to would be fine though for either one.

Edit: Lifetime warranty on the 6850 is a plus.