Having a married life without having kids

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DaShen

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Adopt

Also, I have a coworker that married but didn't have kids, by the husbands choice, she got her tubes tied. :| (I would never tell my wife to do this unless it was totally mutual and she definitely wanted it, but to each his own)
They are still married after 20 years... but from what I have heard of the guy, he can be pretty selfish.

Who knows, if you love your wife, you will make it work somehow.
 

Kaieye

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I had a friend in the past whose wife became sterile almost twenty years ago. A few years ago, he got drunk and called me up. He was complimenting me how great a job my wife and I did bringing up our two girls. He was literally crying about how he couldn't have children and was mad as hell at the Doctor who caused him to become fatherless. Adoption was out of the question since he did not want to raise someone else's kid. That was a eyeopener for me...

But I also had a female relative who couldn't have children and her husband left her to find someone to give him a offspring. The lure of fatherhood was just too strong for him I guess. They were a great couple and are still friendly to each other now.

I feel that I am one lucky guy being able to have children and travel frequently. My kids have been out of the U.S. about four to five times in the past two years and are itching to jump on a plane and go somewhere and fly ten hours away. I guess what I want to say is that you can still have kids and travel frequently.


 

I Saw OJ

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Dec 13, 2004
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I have a friend whos married and both of them dont want kids. Its probably better for the both of them are immature and seem to be in a loveless marrage.
 

LLCOOLJ

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Originally posted by: djheater
Originally posted by: pcnerd37
I never want to be around blacks, although i do want to get married. I hate blacks and always have. I am also a firm believer in the fact that the world is overpopulated with blacks and the more blacks there are running around, the worse off the world is. Global black overpopulation is the elephant in the room that nobody wants to address. Im addressing it and I stand firmly behind the idea that less blacks is a step in the right direction.

Generalising makes you look retarded.
Not as retarded as your post makes you look:disgust:


 

eLiTeGoodGuy

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Originally posted by: DaShen
... I have a coworker that married but didn't have kids, by the husbands choice, she got her tubes tied. :| (I would never tell my wife to do this unless it was totally mutual and she definitely wanted it, but to each his own)...

Your right I agree something like that needed to be a mutual decision especially if it is a voluntary procedure. I love kids and always wanted to have them. The wife (soon to be exwife) went in to get her tubes tied without even a care as to the way I felt about it. Only later to have changed her mind about it 2 years later.
 

bignateyk

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Sadly, its more expensive to adopt a kid than it is to have one yourself. My cousin and her husband had a child of their own who is autistic, so they decided not to risk it with a second child. They tried to adopt a kid from russia, and ended up losing close to 30 grand to get it done.
 

moshquerade

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Nov 1, 2001
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Originally posted by: Glavinsolo
My fiancee and I found out today that we won't be able to have children. Even a surrogate is out of the question.:| A big surprise for us both. I won't go into details. Since this threw a monkey wrench into our plans for the future. I came here to ask if any of you are married and don't have kids and don't plan to. We plan to travel and have a puppy. :heart: Well at least these are our preliminary plans. What did you do to fill that gap?
i don't think i read where you addressed the adoption issue.

why not adopt? or donor sperm? there are so many ways out there to get pregnant or have a child. you sound like you wanted children. i don't see why you have to settle to not have them.
 

ch33zw1z

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adoption ftw. if you do choose this course, that whole travel thing is out of the question for a while!
 

kranky

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We don't have kids by choice. We do a lot of volunteer work and spend time with friends.

I know it must have come as a shock, but after some time has passed I recommend you talk very frankly about how you both feel about adoption. As long as you are both on the same page - whatever you decide - things will be fine. But if one really wants children and the other doesn't, there is no way to have a happy marriage.

I have friends in your situation who adopted two girls from China, three years apart. They are very happy with how things worked out.
 

91TTZ

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Originally posted by: djheater
Originally posted by: pcnerd37
I never want to be around blacks, although i do want to get married. I hate blacks and always have. I am also a firm believer in the fact that the world is overpopulated with blacks and the more blacks there are running around, the worse off the world is. Global black overpopulation is the elephant in the room that nobody wants to address. Im addressing it and I stand firmly behind the idea that less blacks is a step in the right direction.

Generalising makes you look retarded.


Substituting another poster's words for words that totally change the meaning of the argument makes you look even more retarded.

Originally posted by: pcnerd37
I never want to be around sugar gliders, although i do want to get married. I hate sugar gliders and always have. I am also a firm believer in the fact that the world is overpopulated with sugar gliders and the more sugar gliders there are running around, the worse off the world is. Global sugar glider overpopulation is the elephant in the room that nobody wants to address. Im addressing it and I stand firmly behind the idea that less sugar gliders is a step in the right direction.

 

Descartes

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I know a couple that travels everywhere, and they don't have kids. They're very busy people and enjoy their life to the fullest.

That said, I think there will be a time when everyone will regret having children. That might not come in your 30s, 40s or even 50s; however, when your friends are picking up their grandkids for the weekend, going on little vacations, etc. I think regret will settle in. I look at how much my grandparents (and parents for that matter) enjoyed time with us as kids and I can't imagine not having the same.
 

91TTZ

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Originally posted by: Descartes
I know a couple that travels everywhere, and they don't have kids. They're very busy people and enjoy their life to the fullest.

That said, I think there will be a time when everyone will regret having children. That might not come in your 30s, 40s or even 50s; however, when your friends are picking up their grandkids for the weekend, going on little vacations, etc. I think regret will settle in. I look at how much my grandparents (and parents for that matter) enjoyed time with us as kids and I can't imagine not having the same.


LOL

(I know it's a typo)
 

TwinkleToes77

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I am currently going through infertility treatment because of not being able to have kids as well. My husband and I have decided at this time, that adoption isn't for us, mostly my decision even though i have an adopted brother. If these treatments, which are extremely costly and not covered by insurance, don't work... well then I guess we'll just reconsider our choices and thank the higher powers for what we actually do have in our lives.
 

91TTZ

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Jan 31, 2005
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Originally posted by: TwinkleToes77
I am currently going through infertility treatment because of not being able to have kids as well. My husband and I have decided at this time, that adoption isn't for us, mostly my decision even though i have an adopted brother. If these treatments, which are extremely costly and not covered by insurance, don't work... well then I guess we'll just reconsider our choices and thank the higher powers for what we actually do have in our lives.

My sister did that and eventually had twins.

I think it's like $10k for each procedure, and it's not guaranteed to work. But they tried a couple times and it worked.

If the doctor checked you out and thought that this would help, then I guess you're still capable of having kids.
 

knightc2

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First of all if you haven't already, get a second opinion. Second you can always adopt. We have friends that adopted 2 Chinese girls and they are very happy. Third not having kids isn't the end of the world. I have two kids and wouldn't trade it for anything, but it does change your life 100%. There are many things we can't do because we have kids. I think there positives and negatives for both situations. My Brother in Law and his wife are not having kids and that is a good thing. They are very happy. My 2 cents.
 

fire400

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Originally posted by: Tick
Adopt?

I have a friend, well my mom's friend too, but she adopted two Korean girls. They both now have Masters degrees are now married with husbands who can help the family function with an independently working spouse, and that's the guy ofcourse. Well, the Caucasian mother of the two daughters was divorced, so she needed meaning in her life. I would not imagine how she would have gotten through her days without kids. I mean, your two kids gets Masters and move away to start families, that's a good thing to look back on. The same can be said with nurturing with your very best.

There was this story of this indivitual who grew up without a father in his life. I mean, when he was young, his dad left him and the family, and the mother grew up as a single mom. The boy went through life trying to understand why his dad left him, and yes, that was very sad for him. He graduated high school and then served his church for two years, finished higher education and got married.
He was like... "where did my dad go wrong, I'm still sad about this?" It was after he got married that he still asked this question.
But it wasn't until later when he had two kids. He went to play with them at some playground or where ever.. And tears started falling down from his eyes. He said that this was what his father was missing, the love of having children and being able to spend time with them.
So that's the scoop of it I guess, you got kids then you will truly know how your own parents felt about you.

Alright, last story. There was a father who lossed his wife to cancer. His daughter was killed by a speeder on the road. The speeder on the road was sentenced to one month in prison and go to go home to three of his daughters. The daugher of the father that was killed was the only daughter he had, ill-grieved father having lost both his wife and daughter in the same year. Depressed, yeah.
It was easy to get drunk every night and just give up on everything. But he had one son who was still in high school. He wanted to teach him everything... So he was like, for every mistake you make, take these nails and hammer them into the side rail of our fence around the house. The boy was like, okay.
Took less than two weeks to fill the whole yard's fencing with nails. After that, his father was like, for every good thing you do, pull out a nail. Took him two months to pull out all the nails from the yard that he had hammered in. And then, his father told him, to look at all the scars in people's lives that he left. Doing good things he said will help ease the pain, but you need to attack the scars at their core to truly make sure you've done everything you can to fix these problems. then his son didn't want to do it all right away. it took him two years, however, to count each hole in the fence. by the time he graduated he accounted for each one. And then his father said, "don't forget all the mistakes that happened even after your two weeks of nailing." The high school graduate looked at his bare hands and his father hugged him, "congratulations, but this is only another beginning of your life, don't get comfortable and always look for further meaning in life."
conclusion, you can't always live for yourself, but you do it for other people, otherwise life gets pretty depressing over time when you've lost a lot, and we're talking people here.

GG
 

Chaotic42

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I've got a friend who is 50 and doesn't have kids. She drives a 2005 Corvette that is paid off, lives in one of the nicest areas here, and seems to be as happy as can be. She says she doesn't regret not having kids for a second.
 

91TTZ

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Jan 31, 2005
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Originally posted by: fire400

Alright, last story. There was a father who lossed his wife to cancer. His daughter was killed by a speeder on the road. The speeder on the road was sentenced to one month in prison and go to go home to three of his daughters. The daugher of the father that was killed was the only daughter he had, ill-grieved father having lost both his wife and daughter in the same year. Depressed, yeah.

That made no sense at all.
 

JackBurton

Lifer
Jul 18, 2000
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See that's fvcked up. People that want kids can't, and the people that can don't want to. I'm a person that doesn't want kids AT ALL. When I see people with kids I just feel like they fvcked up and are doomed for a sh!tty life. My wife and I have been together for 16yrs and LOVE not having kids, and don't plan on having any. As a matter of fact, if the doctor came to us and said, "I'm sorry, but you'll never be able to have kids," I think I would start crying. The doctor would say, "I'm sorry." And I'd respond, "sorry for what? This is the happiest day of my life! So if you'll excuse me, my wife and I have to go celebrate this joyous occasion." Anyway, now I have to get fixed to ensure my worst nightmare doesn't come true, having a kid.
 
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