Free men. They still see anything south of the wall as having to bend the knee to someone.
Wouldn't he need at least 3-4 books to catch up to this season?We should wait for the next J.Martin book to get at least some answers
Someone left a water bottle in the ‘Game of Thrones’ finale
It’s another “Game of Thrones” gaffe. Just two weeks after a coffee cup left onscreen sparked countless memes, fans spotted not one but two plastic water bottles in Sunday night’s must-watch finale.
Did you read the rest of my post? I explained precisely why Bran's being essentially a non-entity is why he was the perfect choice. He's supposed to be no king at all. He's supposed to be a figurehead while the council rules.
I don't think he does. His story is so incomplete and hacked up he makes sense only as a side character. He was a narrative tool to give backstory to things like the First Men and Jon's lineage. His warging ability was just abandoned at the end. What did his ravens even do at the battle of winterfell?
Also - what was the point of Varys writing those notes about Jon? Nothing I guess. Same with his talking to his new Little Birds. Ok.
Also, why are they still closing the gate to the Wall given that the Night King blew a huge hole in it?
Made no sense that Winterfell could claim independence while Dorne, the Iron Islands, the Vale, the Stormlands, the Westerlands and the Reach all yielded to Bran.
Also, how is there still a Night’s Watch, and why?
Also, why are they still closing the gate to the Wall given that the Night King blew a huge hole in it?
Also, how is there still a Night’s Watch, and why?
Well, my wife guessed right who would end up with the iron throne.
Bran lacks humanity. Well, literally. Cold indifference isn't a good quality for a leader. **cough cough**
I don't think this makes sense, but I understood the idea to remove the nature of born leaders--we crush Dany's wheel, but we are also left with Little Finger's ladder. They still have a system that will be infinitely corruptible and it probably wouldn't be long before some devious asshole gets the Lords of the realm primarily on their side and bribes their way into a new Kingship.
...obviously that can't happen until Bran is gone. Which is weird. What is the point of a ruler that knows everything all the time? How do you reasonably judge their decisions? ...is Bran basically immortal now? Is that kinda the point? With that, I kinda get it. You can't really take his position if he sees you coming, and can probably make a wise decision on selecting new councils and, in this way, lack of humanity means he has no interest in power. He doesn't want the role but he knows he is the only person for the role. He isn't going to be consumed by power because outside of Drogon, I guess, he's the most powerful thing in Westeros. It looks like he plans to find that dragon and bring it back to King's landing or at least establish a proper detente.
Anyway, I don't really mind how things ended with where people went, but it was about 3 necessary episodes of material crammed into this episode. Jon taking care of Dany, increased drama with Tyrion in prison, other messes being cleaned up, should have been one episode. Dealing with succession and the new leadership model, another episode. Even a few rebellious lords here and there threatening their power, a bit more threat from the unsullied and the dothraki (both of whom seem to have respawned again?). Bran and Drogon, a bit more development of that whole 3 eyed raven thing, maybe the White Walkers and Children of the Forest, and of course Jon and his wildlings.
Instead, we got a 1980s montage of stealing the jock's Ferrari, chopping off the engine, sticking it on your shitty boat, and winning the island's annual yacht race in a span of 15 minutes.
Free men. They still see anything south of the wall as having to bend the knee to someone.
When Tyrion spoke at the "meeting" as a prisoner, he said something along the lines of "over the past few weeks I've had a lot of time to think" and then goes into the stupid speech about how a king just needs a story.--what was that jump in time from when Jon killed Dany and was tossed in prison (which we didn't see)? I think we are to surmise that it was "many months" and maybe even a year or more that Jon and Tyrion remained prisoners of the Unsullied and Grey Worm.
I was wondering about this myself. But there are a couple of explanations:
--The Night King blew up the wall at Eastwatch. If they are leaving from Castle Black at the end there, then no big deal. The wall at Castle Black remained intact. (kinda doesn't explain why Tormund would be hanging out at Castle Black, though. I think he preferred Eastwatch...but if Jon shows up and is suddenly the Leader of the Night's Watch again, it would be at Castle Black--also a bit weird, seeing as how they have a process, he did "abandon his watch"--even though he has a legit excuse--and they do their own thing. so, weird that he immediately assumes power. He deserves it, but still. Or he was just fuck it from the beginning and took the Wildlings north. Who knows. It was a stupid montage that no one deserved)
--what was that jump in time from when Jon killed Dany and was tossed in prison (which we didn't see)? I think we are to surmise that it was "many months" and maybe even a year or more that Jon and Tyrion remained prisoners of the Unsullied and Grey Worm. That black out to pass time...holy crap what a lazy pos that was to just toss the complete lack of care for this series at the audience, lol. Anyway, Let's consider how long it took for the White walkers to come down to Winterfell and then all that time until the point that Jon returns to the wall...would it have been repaired by then? I dunno. Everyone on the wall was pretty much gone until Tormund took them back up there after Winterfell. Probably a year and many months at most, I'm guessing. Still, I assume all the actual builders were dead, so who would have rebuilt it? I guess we aren't supposed to care about these things.
When Tyrion spoke at the "meeting" as a prisoner, he said something along the lines of "over the past few weeks I've had a lot of time to think" and then goes into the stupid speech about how a king just needs a story.
And how does it make any sense that a traitorous prisoner decides who the king is lol?
So much "wrong" with this finale, but it was still entertaining, just not in the way I was hoping.
Bran allowed it because Bran is Sansa's brother, and she had a legitimate claim since the north used to be an independent kingdom. As to the rest, any of them could have tried opting out, not just the ones you mentioned. I presume they didn't, at least for now, to avert war. Then again, should the story continue, I would assume that could well be an element of it.
You mean like the Kingdom of Dorne or the Iron Islands who have their own princes and princesses in place? The entire point of Dorne was they never knelt to the Targaryans (or Bobby B) and were always independent. Pretty much the same with the Iron Islands.
NOTHING MADE SENSE
well I was going with Jon's beard depth, as well as Tyrion's to try and gauge the time.
Tyrion getting to decide anything at that point is....really strange. But I think the reality is that he was brought there as negotiation and was no longer a prisoner (at that moment--unknown to Tyrion and unknown to the audience. Yes, we were supposed to expect his execution at that point). The Lords of the realm were also expecting Jon in exchange. ....but that in itself is a bit odd. The unsullied literally have the True King of the Realm in captivity, and the lords aren't really doing fuck-all about it. Hey, maybe if we had an episode or two devoted to all those dudes flexing their power and coming to some sort of compromise regarding the shit storm from Dany's sacking of KL to the death of Dany?
Oh right, we got a montage, tho. Be satisfied, everybody.
You mean like the Kingdom of Dorne or the Iron Islands who have their own princes and princesses in place? The entire point of Dorne was they never knelt to the Targaryans (or Bobby B) and were always independent. Pretty much the same with the Iron Islands.
NOTHING MADE SENSE
The look on Yara's face was like "wait, that was an option?!?"
Who says they aren't going to make a bid for independence? Seems like a logical thing to happen in the future. They weren't going to have that happen in the finale episode because it leaves a dangling thread - WAR - right at the end of the series. That would have been a much bigger problem than not knowing the fate of the last 75 Dothraki and people are complaining to high heaven about that.