HBO's Game of Thrones season 6 discussion thread- airing 4/24/16 (No book spoilers)

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zinfamous

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Also, I thought there were more people that stabbed him? sure looked like he had more than 4 stab wounds when we woke up. Even so, there were certainly far more conspirators involved during the murder.

Why weren't all of them hanged?
 

Chiropteran

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Maybe the others already died, I honestly don't remember them very well- is it possible one of the stabbers was the guy Wun Wun smashed into the wall?
 

Fire&Blood

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Maybe the others already died, I honestly don't remember them very well- is it possible one of the stabbers was the guy Wun Wun smashed into the wall?

Yes, Wun Wun killed one but Jon was stabbed by 6 traitors though another was killed when the wildlings first came in, might have been the 6th.
 

Drako

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Yes, Wun Wun killed one but Jon was stabbed by 6 traitors though another was killed when the wildlings first came in, might have been the 6th.

Yeah, I think the other one was killed during the initial fighting.

On another topic.

Did anyone else think it was strange that Varys was sending away murderer chick on a ship, when all the ships were burned last week? :\
 

Gooberlx2

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when all the ships were burned last week?

All of Dany's ships were burned, or at least all the ships currently in port. Surely more merchant ships/ferries exist in the world that were set for Meereen to do business.
 

TiredEngineer

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On another topic.

Did anyone else think it was strange that Varys was sending away murderer chick on a ship, when all the ships were burned last week? :\

No...because they live in a port city where ships come and go all the time.
 

zinfamous

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Yeah, I think the other one was killed during the initial fighting.

On another topic.

Did anyone else think it was strange that Varys was sending away murderer chick on a ship, when all the ships were burned last week? :\

I think he said he had contracted a ship that would arrive/be in port for only 24 hours. But yeah--mostly the army ships were destroyed.
 

Ichinisan

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I thought it a ruse as well...until he brought out the wolf head.

I guess that just leaves Jon's, Bran's, and...Arya's? Clearly she doesn't seem to have her wolf anymore though.

Didn't they kill Arya's wolf in the second or third episode? Just after Joffrey revealed what an asshole he was in the incident with the butcher's boy?
 

Drako

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Didn't they kill Arya's wolf in the second or third episode? Just after Joffrey revealed what an asshole he was in the incident with the butcher's boy?

Nymeria is wandering around somewhere in Westeros. I'm sure her head will show up in an episode or two.
 

zinfamous

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They killed Lady, Sansa's wolf. Arya made her wolf escape.

"It's not fair, daddy! It's just not fair!" Sansa was such a bitch the first half of season 1. ....I still really don't care about all the awful things that happen to her.
 

Paladin3

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Am I the only one who found this episode slow and boring? I know it's a big setup episode where they are moving the plot along, but it was sloooooow and uninteresting. I found myself grabbing my tablet and reading sports news during the show.

No, it's wasn't slow. None of the episodes this season seemed slow to me, and I've watched them all twice so far. All week long I'm anticipating the next episode and only wish they were longer.

Seems to me a lot of folks have movie ADD, which must suck for you guys.
 

bguile

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Well if Rickon is given to Ramsay Bolton as a hostage supposedly he can use that against any Stark or bastard from the Starks i.e. surrender or Rickon dies.

On the other hand if he is being used as rallying point by a House loyal to House Stark, he is that last known male survivor of the Stark line (not counting bastards and no one knows presumably if Bran is alive except a couple of characters) which is traditionally wanted to carry on the name.
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I guess. Just seems to me, if I were Ramsey, I'd kill Rickon right on the spot, and maybe kill a few Umbers for good measure, just for holding out.

I think its just another another plot device to have a Stark in captivity.
 

JEDI

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ok, how did the head of the Umber clan know john stark is marching towards winterfell w/wildlings?

sure, he probably didn't know jon was dead.
but what made him think jon was going to abandon his post as Lord Commander and march towards him?
 

Phoenix86

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I want to know why the Umbers decided to toss their loyalty to the Starks and switch to Boltons. They of all people knew there was a living heir to the house. Karstarks I understand, but not the Umbers.
 

zinfamous

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ok, how did the head of the Umber clan know john stark is marching towards winterfell w/wildlings?

sure, he probably didn't know jon was dead.
but what made him think jon was going to abandon his post as Lord Commander and march towards him?

I got nothing from that scene that indicated the Umbers knew anything about Jon Snow marching that way. The Wildlings, sure, but he wouldn't have known anything about Jon being murdered, resurrected, leaving the NW, etc.
 

Phoenix86

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I got nothing from that scene that indicated the Umbers knew anything about Jon Snow marching that way. The Wildlings, sure, but he wouldn't have known anything about Jon being murdered, resurrected, leaving the NW, etc.

I just rewatched it, he mentions that Jon let an army of wildlings through the wall. Then he basically said "if they get Jon to lead the army we're fucked because he knows everything about the area". That line was a bit out of place because Jon wouldn't likely lead the army of the wildlings as lord commander... However he didn't say that Jon was doing it, just that IF he did it would be a lot of trouble.
 

purbeast0

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i just wanted to tell an awesome story that happened to me this past weekend that related to game of thrones...

i went to florida for a bachelor party and one guy i had never met was there and he is a little person. we were playing cornhole and drinking outside and someone made a comment after he shotgunned a beer faster than everyone else by a lot. he replied "thats what i do, i drink and i know things."

i immediately went "HAAAAAH" and pointed at him, but unfortunately was the only one who got it and could appreciate it.
 

GagHalfrunt

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This show generates a disturbing satisfaction over certain cases of child murder/death.

To be fair, most of them have it coming. Kids in TV and movies are really annoying and it's refreshing to watch a series that doesn't mind whacking them for our amusement.
 

wetech

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"It's not fair, daddy! It's just not fair!" Sansa was such a bitch the first half of season 1. ....I still really don't care about all the awful things that happen to her.

This.

Remember: She's the one who ratted out Ned to Cerci. Literally everything bad that happened to her family is her fault. Dead brothers, dead parents, wars; all because she wanted to be the queen.
 

TheAdvocate

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I want to know why the Umbers decided to toss their loyalty to the Starks and switch to Boltons. They of all people knew there was a living heir to the house. Karstarks I understand, but not the Umbers.

Possibly because it is all an act, including the fake (?) head of shaggydog. I understand that the Karstark heir is butthurt about what Robb did to his dad, but I cannot see the Umbers ever throwing in with the Boltons. I really cant see the Karstarks doing it either. As they said on the show, the Karstark line is a branch off of the Starks. They are kin. And all of these Northmen have a saying "there has always been a Stark in Winterfell".

Then there's the fact that the Boltons were in on the Red Wedding, when the Greatjon (Umber) and his heir were both killed. If anything, I think the new Greatjon wants Ramsay's head on a pike. I think it's all a setup, and Ramsay is about to finally get his in a really bad way.

Only thing bothersome to that theory is that I cant quite puzzle out why he turned Rickon over to Ramsay. Too much risk that Ramsay would kill him immediately because a male Stark heir is just too much of a threat.
 
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