HBO's Game of Thrones season 6 discussion thread- airing 4/24/16 (No book spoilers)

[Sonikku]

Oh, and . . . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKhEw7nD9C4

Man do all the starks come back or what? It'd be funny if they brought back Ned to roflstomp kings landing. (assuming his remains are salvageable, I can't remember if they were burned)

 

[Jeeebus]

Man do all the starks come back or what? It'd be funny if they brought back Ned to roflstomp kings landing. (assuming his remains are salvageable, I can't remember if they were burned)

Well his head was rotting on a stick when Joffrey forced Sansa to view it, so probably not a good idea to bring him back this point.

 

[Phoenix86]

Well his head was rotting on a stick when Joffrey forced Sansa to view it, so probably not a good idea to bring him back this point.

His bones were in a box and delivered to Catelyn, so yeah...

 

[Pens1566]

Typical ntellectually bankrupt "You didn't use as precise of jargon as you could, you're dumb!" argument.

It was an amazing character arch and the show was smart enough not to hit the audience over the head with the subtitles of what Arya was doing. Why you don't get this is clear in your own argument: You can't tell Arya was using the blood to leave a trail, you can't tell that the whole thing was an over-confidence crating setup, hell even after seeing it time after time you can't tell that Milk of the Poppy has highly medicinal qualities.

What's really sad is that you think not knowing something, disliking something, or generally reading things in the most negative light makes you what? Smarter?

Not even close.

She wasn't "almost healed". There's no reason to believe milk of the poppy has healing qualities. It's been used over and over and over (you get the point) to simply make the injured sleep. It's rather blatant and obvious to anyone that has paid attention to the series at all. They gave it to Robert when he was gored. No healing. They gave it to Ned when he was lanced. No healing. Qyburn offers it to Jaime for his missing hand. And that's just off the top of my head.No book spoilers here at all. You're just wrong. A quick googling would show you that.

And I've said nothing of what I think of the Arya/Bravos plot line. Nothing.

 

[blankslate]

And poisoned.

Not poisoned so much as being given so much unusually strong wine that he wasn't able to kill the boar before it gored him.


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[blankslate]

I would find it quite amusing if we never see Dorne again, how hilarious would it be if they brought that story line to the show only to just sweep it under the rug like it never happened.

The two sandsnakes get lost in the catacombs below King's Landing and when one of them strikes a match to see in a dark room a cache of Wildfire is ignited... comedy music plays when that happens.


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[Ichinisan]

Not poisoned so much as being given so much unusually strong wine that he wasn't able to kill the boar before it gored him.


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If I recall correctly, the goring was just the story. He was actually murdered by poison.

 

[Sonikku]

Was that a book angle or did it reveal in the show he was poisoned? I don't remember any of that.

 

[Homerboy]

If I recall correctly, the goring was just the story. He was actually murdered by poison.

Don't think so. Jon Aryn was suspected to have been murdered by poison ("unknown causes"). Robert was drunk and gored to death.

 

[MongGrel]

The two sandsnakes get lost in the catacombs below King's Landing and when one of them strikes a match to see in a dark room a cache of Wildfire is ignited... comedy music plays when that happens.


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Robert was just drunk at the time and had a bit of a hunting accident if I remember rightly. He was getting mad at the time he hadn't had enough wine just prior to then and had more fetched.

Hope things ramp up more this episode, they have been building up long enough this season.

Yeah, the hand prior to Robert dragging Ned back the first episode was supposedly poisoned, the crazy Aunt that Littlefinger married and offed ex-husband that was never shown in the the show.

 

[Jeeebus]

There were insinuations in the show that Cersei poisoned him with something to dull the senses, thus allowing the boar to get him.

 

[Artorias]

There were insinuations in the show that Cersei poisoned him with something to dull the senses, thus allowing the boar to get him.

I think its entirely feasible that the boar did just get him, he was drunk all the time and being that immobile was going to catch up to him.

I think Cersei poisoned him after the boar attacked to finish the job, whether Pycell knew about the poison I don't know.

 

[MongGrel]

There were insinuations in the show that Cersei poisoned him with something to dull the senses, thus allowing the boar to get him.

Possibly, I think she more or less made the suggestion to her relative handling the wine to get him drunk.

I really do not remember poison being involved in that one, but that has been awhile now.

I keep hoping Pycelle gets whacked myself, he reminds me of one particular older no nothing blow hard that spouted off how wise he is where I used to work with that it irritates me. The guy wasn't much older than I was, but looked a lot older, several people that had higher qualifications knew he was full of BS yet management kept him around after retirement and he continually stirred up BS, I suspect he was related to someone. He did have a BS streak a mile long like Pycelle at any rate.

 

[Ichinisan]

There were insinuations in the show that Cersei poisoned him with something to dull the senses, thus allowing the boar to get him.

I seem to remember she had Lancel put something in his wine and it was only vaguely suggested many episodes after he died (maybe the next season).

 

[blankslate]

I seem to remember she had Lancel put something in his wine and it was only vaguely suggested many episodes after he died (maybe the next season).

She had him give King Robert a lot of wine (and it may have been a stronger one than he usually drank on hunts) in hopes that it would slow his reaction time when trying to skewer a boar.


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[CZroe]

They strongly implied that he was drugged (more than just wine) and that Lancel had admitted/atoned for the sin (along with incest).

 

[Triumph]

I thought ep8 was pretty boring. Most of this season was good, but this one, wth? Tyrion trading jokes with the soldier and the hot chick was completely useless. Arya's whole getting-stabbed thing, I mean, since the beginning of time, stab wounds to the gut have always been the least survivable. And I never really understood the faceless men. Were they supposed to be good or bad?

 

[Sonikku]

I like Arya but her arc definitely ended with a whimper. Tyrion took a stab at one of his classic season 1 scenes but it felt flat. The character that was once the heart of the show seems to have long since peaked.

 

[Ichinisan]

Good lord, I think we all need to take a deep breath and relax about the whole Arya thing. Does anyone here actually like the show?

The writing was good for a while, and I liked it.
The writing has been bad for a long time, and I do not like it.

"Good Lord, people!"



I don't really know why I watch it anymore. I still eagerly anticipate each episode of Silicon Valley.

 

[Ichinisan]

...and if Silicon Valley becomes more like Big Bang Theory, I will complain about that too.

 

[Dr. Zaus]

I thought ep8 was pretty boring. Most of this season was good, but this one, wth? Tyrion trading jokes with the soldier and the hot chick was completely useless.

They were humanizing grey worm so they could kill him later.

But I think you're being Ironic because you asked what must be the most thematically tone deaf question "I never really understood the faceless men. Were they supposed to be good or bad?"

Their HQ is literally called the house of black and white... I mean I should have caught it a sentence earlier:

Arya's whole getting-stabbed thing, I mean, since the beginning of time, stab wounds to the gut have always been the least survivable.

As opposed to the 1) chest, 2) Femoral artery 3) Head ?

Yea, you's troll'n

 

[Charmonium]

I think the idea was that of the various wounds you can walk, or hobble, away from, being gut shot is one of the last ones you want. Not only is it virtually guaranteed to be fatal but it takes you a long time to die and it's a very painful death since you most likely die of sepsis rather than blood loss.

In all of the old westerns, characters always feared being "gut shot" because it was such a shitty (pun intended) way to go.

In Arya's case, it may be that she was stabbed with a very thin blade almost like an ice pick. I'm not a doctor, but I can imagine that with very fine perforation wounds, your intestines might be able to heal the damage themselves. Not anywhere near as fast as they seem to indicate, but it might be theoretically possible.

 

[bononos]

Whats Margaery's play by letting Loras/Cersei stand trial before the seven? Since trial by combat is outlawed, theres no way Loras is going to be acquitted. Has house Tyrell sacrificed Loras to ally with the Sparrows? Maybe they feel that he is a ponce who is dispensable along with Cersei.

The episode 9 preview shows Jon's army getting clobbered by Ramsay. Thats a crap way for Jon to finally meet his end.

 

[MongGrel]

Whats Margaery's play by letting Loras/Cersei stand trial before the seven? Since trial by combat is outlawed, theres no way Loras is going to be acquitted. Has house Tyrell sacrificed Loras to ally with the Sparrows? Maybe they feel that he is a ponce who is dispensable along with Cersei.

The episode 9 preview shows Jon's army getting clobbered by Ramsay. Thats a crap way for Jon to finally meet his end.

The previews have been notorious for misdirection lately.

Seems to be one of the reasons they make them of course.

 

[OutHouse]

I saw Lena Headey at Denver Comic Con today. i wanted to get her autograph but the line was stupid long.