HBO's Game of Thrones season 6 discussion thread- airing 4/24/16 (No book spoilers)

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cronos

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Yeah this horrible continuity problem with the teleporting sand ninja (and the disappearing hounds) has been discussed everywhere since Sunday night. Can't believe they didn't catch that.
 

GagHalfrunt

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Oh, I totally missed that. He definitely didn't seem upset about his girly's recent death, though. Only a bit annoyed that the snake ladies just interrupted his candy crush game. I guess I should watch it again, or not. whatever.

definitely whatthefuck to have them stowed-away so easily without Jamie or anyone else being aware--especially after having watched them sail away. I guess they departed shortly after on their own super-fast stealth boat?

this is some 3rd-grade shit.

Who said they were stowed away? The scene in Dorne at the end of S5 where they got on the boat was badly handled, it was not made clear that Trystane got on the boat other than the single line from Jaime. A prince would not travel without some sort of guards, so it's pretty likely that the Sand Snakes were meant to be there.When they came into his cabin he didn't ask "what are you doing here?" or "how did you get on this boat?" so that implies he wasn't surprised to see them, he was only surprised that they wanted to kill him.
 

PJFrylar

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Yeah you're not insane, I noticed that too. The only way it would make sense is if they left very shortly after in a faster boat.

Another that stood out to me... I'm almost sure Melisandre has taken that amulet off before. Being that I believe she was also topless in such a scene, I can't exactly verify that at work.

Who said they were stowed away? The scene in Dorne at the end of S5 where they got on the boat was badly handled, it was not made clear that Trystane got on the boat other than the single line from Jaime. A prince would not travel without some sort of guards, so it's pretty likely that the Sand Snakes were meant to be there.When they came into his cabin he didn't ask "what are you doing here?" or "how did you get on this boat?" so that implies he wasn't surprised to see them, he was only surprised that they wanted to kill him.


IIRC he said he wasn't hungry without even looking up from painting the stones, and he didn't say anything else until he had turned around and they said they were here to kill him.
 
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Homerboy

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Yeah this horrible continuity problem with the teleporting sand ninja (and the disappearing hounds) has been discussed everywhere since Sunday night. Can't believe they didn't catch that.

Ah. I didn't think I was the 1st to catch it. Just nobody mentioned it here, and I just watched the other night and realized it.

Who said they were stowed away? The scene in Dorne at the end of S5 where they got on the boat was badly handled, it was not made clear that Trystane got on the boat other than the single line from Jaime. A prince would not travel without some sort of guards, so it's pretty likely that the Sand Snakes were meant to be there.When they came into his cabin he didn't ask "what are you doing here?" or "how did you get on this boat?" so that implies he wasn't surprised to see them, he was only surprised that they wanted to kill him.

that does make sense, but it doesn't explain them being on the dock when the boat left and was quite a ways out to sea.
 

Homerboy

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Yeah you're not insane, I noticed that too. The only way it would make sense is if they left very shortly after in a faster boat.

Another that stood out to me... I'm almost sure Melisandre has taken that amulet off before. Being that I believe she was also topless in such a scene, I can't exactly verify that at work.

A quick google images search shows her with it on in about every picture -- EXCEPT the scene a season or 2 ago where she's in the bathtub.

PS: She's hot. (no pun intended)
 

PJFrylar

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A quick google images search shows her with it on in about every picture -- EXCEPT the scene a season or 2 ago where she's in the bathtub.

PS: She's hot. (no pun intended)

Yeah, I think the bathtub scene is the one I'm thinking of.
 

CZroe

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Jun 24, 2001
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I just rewatched it -- he's CLEARLY on a boat and is painting those stones that they put on the eyes when somebody has died (assume it's Myrcella) Since. Doran finds out that Myrcella is dead just before he dies, it's safe to assume that Trystane is not in Dorn, but rather on the boat in KL. There is even a set-up shot before they show him in the boat's cabin of what looks like KL harbor.



Unless I'm missing something, this is a major WTF


Yep. Definitely a boat. I'd say that he was en route to King's Landing to be at the ceremony, especially because he is painting one of those eye covering stone things, but his father had only just got word of what happened. Ships for princes are probably like ponies for spoiled princesses.
 

Homerboy

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Yep. Definitely a boat. I'd say that he was en route to King's Landing to be at the ceremony, especially because he is painting one of those eye covering stone things, but his father had only just got word of what happened. Ships for princes are probably like ponies for spoiled princesses.

Not only is it a boat, it's the same boat. If you recall she says something like "I'm glad Trystane is coming with us..." in Season 5 finale.
 

CZroe

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Another that stood out to me... I'm almost sure Melisandre has taken that amulet off before. Being that I believe she was also topless in such a scene, I can't exactly verify that at work.

It's been verified: she has taken it off before. The theory is that she changed because she lost faith in the Lord of Light, not because she took the amulet off.
 

CZroe

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Not only is it a boat, it's the same boat. If you recall she says something like "I'm glad Trystane is coming with us..." in Season 5 finale.

...Jaime's/Myrcella's boat had already arrived. Is he not going to the castle?
 

Homerboy

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...Jaime's/Myrcella's boat had already arrived. Is he not going to the castle?

I think you're missing the point it was all 1 boat - Jaime's/Myrcella/Trystane were all on the same boat.

I mean the could not have made this whole scenario more fucked up and confusing.
 

Exophase

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Why is he painting the "eye stones" then?

And I JUST went back further. The set up shot before they show the prince killed, shows a boat in a harbor. It is the EXACT same setup/harbor shot they show when Cersei runs down to meet Jamie coming ashore.

Trystane was on the boat. He knew of Marcella's death and SOMEHOW the Whip and Pole jumped from the pier watching the boat sail away in Season 5 to the same boat to murder him in KL in Season 6.

It's a major "how the fuck?!?!?" in continuity.

They followed in another boat and caught up with Trystane while he was still in the harbor before being sent back to Dorne. This isn't really that complicated. It's just confusing because we didn't see it happen. We didn't even see the note to Doran where Jaime said he was sending Trystane back in the first place.
 

PJFrylar

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It's been verified: she has taken it off before. The theory is that she changed because she lost faith in the Lord of Light, not because she took the amulet off.

That would make sense. The group I was watching it with assumed the amulet was magical due to the timing.
 

Sonikku

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I'm disappointed we never got to see that big guard do something badass. He should have hauled ass beating the crap out of scorpions even with a knife in his side and poison in his veins. I wish we could have seen him take a least a few conspirators down with him.
 

Homerboy

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I'm disappointed we never got to see that big guard do something badass. He should have hauled ass beating the crap out of scorpions even with a knife in his side and poison in his veins. I wish we could have seen him take a least a few conspirators down with him.

If you read the books, he's one of the best fighters ever in the history of the 7 Kingdoms and complete bad-ass. For him to go down like that is bullshit.
 

PJFrylar

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Yeah, he could have at least taken out those guards who were sitting there doing nothing. Maybe he will survive or something.
 

zinfamous

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I'm disappointed we never got to see that big guard do something badass. He should have hauled ass beating the crap out of scorpions even with a knife in his side and poison in his veins. I wish we could have seen him take a least a few conspirators down with him.

he probably would have been as slow and clumsy as nearly all of the "best fighters in the world" that have so far been cast to play those roles.
 

slag

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Wow. I mean if you can't recall these things... I dunno. These are/were THE MAJOR plot points/twists/storylines of last season. So you pretty much recall nothing of what is going on? You even said that the reason they showed you every person was to refresh your memory of the previous season -- yet you still don't remember? So then what WAS the point of showing them all if they didn't even do their job?

There's been a BILLION websites/videos/articles/water cooler discussions about the show since the final episode of season 5 aired that could prepare anyone for episode 1 of season 6 if they needed a "refresher"

I'm kind of an anamoly since I had all the chemo. My brain totally turned to mush and my memory has gone to shit. I'm probably going to be an early alzheimer's patient to be honest and have trouble remembering things.
 

slag

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Dec 14, 2000
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I think you might have missed the finale, or the whole of last season:
The one-handed Lannister (Jamie) was coming back from Dorne where he promised to retrieve his illegitimate daughter that his father Tywin sent away (Myrcella Baratheon). The dead person is obviously Myrcella. She was poisoned by the Sand Snake who kissed her right before the voyage home and she died in Jamie's arms once they were under way. I think he had just revealed to her that he was her father and not just her uncle.

Jon Snow was killed by multiple people in the Night's Watch who all took turns plunging in the knife "for The Watch." The little boy who lost his parents to Wildlings, Ollie, was one of them. Here is a parody to spark your memory:
https://youtu.be/qIRqNPUMB2g

They were left in Mereen when Danny flew off on her dragon. They came to assess the state of the city and how to improve things, so they started their work without her. No doubt, she will be back.

Jon sent Sam and Gilly off so Sam could become a Maester like he always wanted. It was Sam's dream and it was better/safer for everyone. Sam's obviously going to be more important after he's learned a Maester trick or two.



She can take solace in knowing that most of the criticism is directed toward the character and writing. It really is insipid. I don't see how any actors could have redeemed it.

I think I did miss a lot of this. To be fair, I was kind of busy, but thought I had caught up on most of it. I think I'm still missing an episode or two at least in there. Whoops.
 

Homerboy

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I'm kind of an anamoly since I had all the chemo. My brain totally turned to mush and my memory has gone to shit. I'm probably going to be an early alzheimer's patient to be honest and have trouble remembering things.

Well.... Umm... That's not fair. I didn't know:whiste::$
 

JEDI

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flash those boobies like a Jedi mind trick.

"you do not see a plot hole"
 
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