HBO's Game of Thrones season 6 discussion thread- airing 4/24/16 (No book spoilers)

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Drako

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...Jaime's/Myrcella's boat had already arrived. Is he not going to the castle?


Trystane was heading back to Dorne. It would make no sense for him to stay in King's Landing with Myrcella now dead.

His boat was obviously intercepted by another Dorne vessel that was carrying the assassins Obara and Nymeria.
 

JEDI

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Sep 25, 2001
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Trystane was heading back to Dorne. It would make no sense for him to stay in King's Landing with Myrcella now dead.

His boat was obviously intercepted by another Dorne vessel that was carrying the assassins Obara and Nymeria.

so why was he making the eyes if he left already?
shouldn't the eyes be on Marcella's face for her wake?
 

Phoenix86

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Trystane was heading back to Dorne. It would make no sense for him to stay in King's Landing with Myrcella now dead.

His boat was obviously intercepted by another Dorne vessel that was carrying the assassins Obara and Nymeria.

It wasn't intercepted, it was still in harbor with it's sails up. He was making the eyes for Myrcella's corpse, obviously he intended to stay for her burial.

I don't get what the big deal is, they didn't explain how they got there but it's not impossible. Just get on another boat and follow them...
 

Fire&Blood

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It wasn't intercepted, it was still in harbor with it's sails up. He was making the eyes for Myrcella's corpse, obviously he intended to stay for her burial.

I don't get what the big deal is, they didn't explain how they got there but it's not impossible. Just get on another boat and follow them...

This.

Though it appears many are stuck with the chain of events. It's crystal clear what transpired:

Jaime, Trystane and Myrcella were on the boat. When Ellaria gave Myrcella the kiss of death before she boarded, all of the sand snakes were with Ellaria, watching the boat sail away. Two of the SS then got on a presumably faster boat and traveled to KL. Trystane remained on the boat (was likely advised by Jaime to do so) and obviously planned to attend the funeral but needed Jaime to make sure Cersei is ok with that.

In one of the old GOT threads, I posted a pic and a comment how they went back to shoot an afterthought scene in KL, even though GOT officials said they were done with the location.

The whole Dorne thing doesn't make much sense, the chain of events is rushed, without time for involved characters to make it more plausible. Yes, it is easy to poke holes at it but wow, Dorne was perfect bait to get all the book waiters/show haters to crawl out of the woodwork for it...
 

Sonikku

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he probably would have been as slow and clumsy as nearly all of the "best fighters in the world" that have so far been cast to play those roles.

This annoys me. Same with friend zone doing that somersault stab thing. Incredibly lame. Even if the writing has gone to shit you would think they could still do better fight choreography. What the hell happened since the fights from earlier seasons?
 

Skel

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It's been verified: she has taken it off before. The theory is that she changed because she lost faith in the Lord of Light, not because she took the amulet off.

I'm thinking it's either an offering to the LoL or she's saving up power by turning off whatever glamors she has. I'm pretty convinced currently that they're not done with Snow as his body is still just lying there on a table rather than somewhere else. My guess is that she's going resurrect him via this power/offering thing and away we go.

Having said that, I wouldn't be surprised if he was dead and that's the end of his story. Wouldn't be the first time this story did a sudden shift of direction that makes you wonder why we spent so much time building the story line only to have it fall to the side.
 

GagHalfrunt

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This annoys me. Same with friend zone doing that somersault stab thing. Incredibly lame. Even if the writing has gone to shit you would think they could still do better fight choreography. What the hell happened since the fights from earlier seasons?

What fights from earlier seasons? They have never been into the sword-fighting thing, too hard to train the actors and choreograph that stuff on a TV filming schedule. Even when they set up something big like Jaime vs Ned or even Jaime vs Brienne it was cut short or otherwise intentionally hamstrung by having one of the two fighters hurt or shackled so it never had to go full bore. Even the fighting pit duels or Bronn vs the guy in the Aerie were lame as one guy was usually clearly overmatched so the scene could be short. The only good one-on-one fight the series ever did was Oberyn vs Gregor.
 

Charmonium

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I'm thinking it's either an offering to the LoL or she's saving up power by turning off whatever glamors she has. I'm pretty convinced currently that they're not done with Snow as his body is still just lying there on a table rather than somewhere else. My guess is that she's going resurrect him via this power/offering thing and away we go.

Having said that, I wouldn't be surprised if he was dead and that's the end of his story. Wouldn't be the first time this story did a sudden shift of direction that makes you wonder why we spent so much time building the story line only to have it fall to the side.
He's not dead. This is a time honored plot device. You bring someone back from the dead but they're not really back, they're different. Then the plot uses those differences to push the character into roles that are either inconsistent with their previous personality or generally consistent but an extension of previous characteristics.

Just look at a show like Arrow for example where several characters have been brought back. Even Supernatural has done this. And I'm sure in fantasy literature this idea has a long lineage.
 

Skel

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Has this show ever had a major character come back from the dead? I can't think of one. I know the book has it, but in the show it's only been the "B" squad like the guy from Brothers without Banners (I think that's their name) and the Mountain. I can't think of any time someone major has returned. They've always just been dead.
 

GagHalfrunt

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Has this show ever had a major character come back from the dead? I can't think of one. I know the book has it, but in the show it's only been the "B" squad like the guy from Brothers without Banners (I think that's their name) and the Mountain. I can't think of any time someone major has returned. They've always just been dead.

Thus far Berric Dondarrion is the most major character brought back from the dead. That will soon change when Jon gets resurrected.
 

Phoenix86

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Jaime, Trystane and Myrcella were on the boat. When Ellaria gave Myrcella the kiss of death before she boarded, all of the sand snakes were with Ellaria, watching the boat sail away. Two of the SS then got on a presumably faster boat and traveled to KL. Trystane remained on the boat (was likely advised by Jaime to do so) and obviously planned to attend the funeral but needed Jaime to make sure Cersei is ok with that.

It isn't even necessary for the other boat to be faster, presumably Trystane would be in KL for a few days at least. Leave later in the day on a boat just as fast and still get there in time to catch him in KL.
 

Fire&Blood

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There was a youtube video that got taken down by HBO:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jOr3g8VHrM

Not a big deal on it's own but... The video didn't contain GOT footage, it was just a guy who claims to have had early access breaking down events of episode 2. For what it's worth, he did the same for the first episode last week and he got everything right. There are many GOT videos with lots of footage on youtube that are tolerated, taking down a "dry" video indicates he may be right.

I'm pretty sure the guy has access to the Spanish translation for GOT.
Episode 2, according to him, has a lot happening in it. So why am I giving you a dry wall of text? To prepare you for what's coming and it ain't winter.
 
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BrokenVisage

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"That was a surprise" said no one, ever. Seriously though, I still yelled out once it happened.
 

MikeyLSU

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surely spoiler tags are not needed for something that has already aired. If you haven't watched the episode that just aired, you probably shouldn't be in the discussion thread.

I was really hoping it wouldn't work and they would burn his body only for him to emerge from the flames.
 
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