I think the Sparrow was a big let down. He seemed so clueless and ineffectual it seems out of character for him to drop the ball so brazenly.
Unless the theories of him being Howland Reed are true. Then it would have been epic.I think the Sparrow was a big let down. He seemed so clueless and ineffectual it seems out of character for him to drop the ball so brazenly.
It was the same arrogance that Ramsay Bolton displayed. Sparrow bundled it with false humility. When you always assume that you're the smartest person in the room you limit your ability to learn and react. Though Bolton was sitting very pretty until the Knights of the vale showed up.
It was the same arrogance that Ramsay Bolton displayed. Sparrow bundled it with false humility. When you always assume that you're the smartest person in the room you limit your ability to learn and react. Though Bolton was sitting very pretty until the Knights of the vale showed up.
There are a lot of little comments like that. "You're no son of mine", "I will raise you as my son since I can't prove that you're not", etc
There's also Tyrion's connection to the dragons, they took a liking to him and seemed to understand him when he set them free. That could prove that dragons are smarter than we thought, but it could also imply something more.
There are other things which cannot be discussed.
I don't think the Sparrow thought himself the smartest person in the room, he just trusted his gods to protect him. It's a universal failing of the truly devout.
As for Ramsay, he was a victim of bad writing. Nobody, not even the most arrogant, would have admitted he had a living Stark heir. Him sending that message to Jon was not arrogance, it was another in the endless string of jump the shark moments that infected the entire season.
For all he knows he is a lannister, there are no DNA tests there and he came from tywins wife. However, aerys was also infatuated with tywins wife. Tywin also says he can't prove he isnt a lannister, so that might imply he has doubts.This theory is stupid. What purpose does it serve having Tyrion be a Targaryan?
Season 3:
Tyrion: When have you ever done anything that wasn't self serving, and benefited the family?
Tywin: The day you were born. I wanted to throw you into the river. But I didn't, because you're a Lannister.
Seems to work for me.
This theory is stupid. What purpose does it serve having Tyrion be a Targaryan?
Season 3:
Tyrion: When have you ever done anything that wasn't self serving, and benefited the family?
Tywin: The day you were born. I wanted to throw you into the river. But I didn't, because you're a Lannister.
Seems to work for me.
The problem is that you think ramsay was smart and just arrogant. He was stupid and arrogant. They have always portrayed him as stupid, cunning yes, in his own manner. But he was never strategic, was barbarous and cruel, snd made unforced errors and thought he was invincible because people feared him for being stupidly cruel. Ramsay and roose were both feared but for two completely different reasons.I don't think the Sparrow thought himself the smartest person in the room, he just trusted his gods to protect him. It's a universal failing of the truly devout.
As for Ramsay, he was a victim of bad writing. Nobody, not even the most arrogant, would have admitted he had a living Stark heir. Him sending that message to Jon was not arrogance, it was another in the endless string of jump the shark moments that infected the entire season.
For all he knows he is a lannister, there are no DNA tests there and he came from tywins wife. However, aerys was also infatuated with tywins wife. Tywin also says he can't prove he isnt a lannister, so that might imply he has doubts.
It would also be interesting that the one person to bring the lannisters down is a targaryan.
given all the incest, it would make way more sense for Jaime and Cersei to be Targeryean bastards.
For all he knows he is a lannister, there are no DNA tests there and he came from tywins wife. However, aerys was also infatuated with tywins wife. Tywin also says he can't prove he isnt a lannister, so that might imply he has doubts.
It would also be interesting that the one person to bring the lannisters down is a targaryan.
I never perceived the HS to be genuine, just extremely politically astute and overly sure of his accomplishments. (Redeeming Cerci). Your point on the writing difference this season isn't without merit. It's not the same without Martin's script to outline the story.
How is what happened to Jon any different than what could happen to tyrion?And Littlefinger was obsessed with Catelyn, for all we know Rob, Sansa, Arya, Bran, and Rickon are actually Baelish's. I mean, there were no DNA tests back then. And did Ned Stark actually SEE them being born? I mean, come on, they're practically throwing the clues at us!
How is what happened to Jon any different than what could happen to tyrion?
I agree that the HS was in fact politically astute to a point. He wasn't some televangelist selling a message for personal profit, he really was devout. He was old and poor and had devoted his entire life to the church with absolutely nothing to show for it until Cersei gave him his power. It was not part of his master plan to wait 70 years and THEN become a force to be reckoned with. He clearly knew what to do with the power once he got it, but he was a true believer first and foremost. He thought he was gods chosen doing gods work and that god would look after him. If he was REALLY politically astute he would have taken the power Cersei gave him and carved out a little empire for himself working hand in hand with the crown.
The problem is that you think ramsay was smart and just arrogant. He was stupid and arrogant. They have always portrayed him as stupid, cunning yes, in his own manner. But he was never strategic, was barbarous and cruel, snd made unforced errors and thought he was invincible because people feared him for being stupidly cruel. Ramsay and roose were both feared but for two completely different reasons.
It was never in dispute on the show. Ned said he was his father and the mother was xyz when he had the talk with Robert.well, Jon's mother was always in dispute/unnamed and lots of hints were dropped about everyone being surprised that such an honorable guy as Ned Stark would father a bastard.
He rose up because his father needed him, nothing more. His father had said before that if he didn't need him and he continued to be stupid he'd kill him. Roose underestimated his stupidity in thinking ramsay wouldn't kill him. Losing the north without roose wasn't a question of if, but when. Ramsay simply played the game poorly.He was smart enough to rise from a bastard to ruler of the north. He was smart enough to eliminate his rivals and secure his position. He CLEARLY understood the danger of legitimate heirs, that's why he killed his own brother. But then in his very next breath he lets on that he has a legitimate heir and rival and invites everyone to rise up against him when all of his previous actions were to prevent legitimate heirs from rising up against him? BULLSHIT! BULLSHIT!! BULLSHIT!!!