HBO's Game of Thrones season 6 discussion thread- airing 4/24/16 (No book spoilers)

[Charmonium]

I'm not sure why the fire stunt is going to get the Dothraki to fall in behind her. Surely everyone knew the story of Drogo's funeral pyre - unless everyone just thinks that's a legend.

So what's the point? They see her emerge unscathed and that's enough for them to give her their undying loyalty? I don't think so. The Dothraki don't strike me as the type to be easily swayed except by force and being able to walk through fire isn't really force. It's a nice magic trick but that's about it.

 

[Drako]

I'm not sure why the fire stunt is going to get the Dothraki to fall in behind her. Surely everyone knew the story of Drogo's funeral pyre - unless everyone just thinks that's a legend.

So what's the point? They see her emerge unscathed and that's enough for them to give her their undying loyalty? I don't think so. The Dothraki don't strike me as the type to be easily swayed except by force and being able to walk through fire isn't really force. It's a nice magic trick but that's about it.

You do realize she killed all the Khals, right?

 

[melchoir]

Well, she did also kill all of the other Khal.

 

[Charmonium]

You do realize she killed all the Khals, right?

Sure, but so what? Khals die all of the time. What happened when Drogo died? He was replaced pretty quickly wasn't he?

edit: the only thing I can see that makes any sense is that they think she's a witch/sorceress and has a lot of other terrible powers. Then I could see it but there's nothing in the story to indicate that.

 

[KLin]

lol.. that scene?
how the heck did you come to the conclusion of Tormund and Brienne romance?
that implies Brienne flirted back but she looked uncomfortable at his suggestive eye contact.

Go rewatch the scene. Edd noticed tormund ogling her.

 

[Drako]

Sure, but so what? Khals die all of the time. What happened when Drogo died? He was replaced pretty quickly wasn't he?

She killed ALL of them, not just one.

 

[KLin]

Well, she did also kill all of the other Khal.

Kind of how

Spoiler

Gus Fring took out the cartel's boss and capos with some poisoned tequila in Breaking Bad

 

[Anubis]

I'm not sure why the fire stunt is going to get the Dothraki to fall in behind her. Surely everyone knew the story of Drogo's funeral pyre - unless everyone just thinks that's a legend.

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when that happened you have to remember most of the horde had left, it was just her, sir friendzone and a handful of people who saw it happen

and most of them are now dead

 

[Charmonium]

She killed ALL of them, not just one.

Right. But haven't we been told that the various clans are competitive? The Dothraki aren't like a unified force except when they are fighting outsiders or maybe . . . maybe if you can get a couple of Khals together to go raiding like the Vikings of old. So that whole love fest with the Khals in their hut/temple/whatever seemed to contradict things we've been told before.

So I would think that if all of the Khals died at once, there would be a huge power struggle among those next in line. I just don't see their falling in behind some chick they don't even know - unless of course the implication is that she's a powerful sorceress.

 

[Chiropteran]

She killed ALL of them, not just one.

I could be wrong, but isn't the dothraki custom something along the lines of if you challenge the khal and defeat him you become the khal? Effectively she just defeated all of them...

 

[KLin]

Right. But haven't we been told that the various clans are competitive? The Dothraki aren't like a unified force except when they are fighting outsiders or maybe . . . maybe if you can get a couple of Khals together to go raiding like the Vikings of old. So that whole love fest with the Khals in their hut/temple/whatever seemed to contradict things we've been told before.

So I would think that if all of the Khals died at once, there would be a huge power struggle among those next in line. I just don't see their falling in behind some chick they don't even know - unless of course the implication is that she's a powerful sorceress.

Well, she did walk out of a building engulfed in fire. lol

 

[Charmonium]

I could be wrong, but isn't the dothraki custom something along the lines of if you challenge the khal and defeat him you become the khal? Effectively she just defeated all of them...

Ahhhh, that's a good point. We've never seen it applied to outsiders but that isn't really much of a stretch. Thanks

 

[GagHalfrunt]

You do realize she killed all the Khals, right?

Not only did she kill all the Khals, she walked out of the fire unharmed. The Dothraki are superstitious people, they think she's a god now. That entire horde is hers, which is what most of us were saying would happen the minute the Dothraki captured her last season. She needed an army, now she's got one. That all makes perfect sense.

However, the whole Ramsay/Rickon thing is dumber than the Sand Snakes arc which is dumber than the Kings Landing arc which is itself unbelievably dumb. Gotta give the writers/producers credit, they've only been off the books for 4 episodes now and they've managed to jump the shark in the north, the south and the central parts of Westeros. That's impressive.

 

[Xylitol]

Did anyone else feel like the hut burning/Daenerys getting out unharmed was a bit cheesy? Couldn't she have won out in ANY OTHER WAY than to repeat what we already saw? I started chuckling when I saw it happen in the same way that I chuckled when I saw that in The Force Awakens, there's a ball in the sky that explodes in the same way that it exploded the previous two times.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Did anyone else feel like the hut burning/Daenerys getting out unharmed was a bit cheesy? Couldn't she have won out in ANY OTHER WAY than to repeat what we already saw? I started chuckling when I saw it happen in the same way that I chuckled when I saw that in The Force Awakens, there's a ball in the sky that explodes in the same way that it exploded the previous two times.

Personally I wanted to see Drogon show up and issue a little fiery justice. He could have killed the Khals and then the horde would have followed Daenerys anyway. But then people would be complaining that it was too easy to do it that way, the dragons are too powerful and it would have been better if she did it herself.

 

[Xylitol]

Personally I wanted to see Drogon show up and issue a little fiery justice. He could have killed the Khals and then the horde would have followed Daenerys anyway. But then people would be complaining that it was too easy to do it that way, the dragons are too powerful and it would have been better if she did it herself.

That's true - maybe they could have had Daenerys escape with Jeor+other dude, then find Drogon, and then come back with a fiery vengeance to win over the Dothraki - as opposed to having Drogon come in on his own and laying waste to them. I just wish they could have done something that wasn't: survive a fire to have everyone who witnessed it worship you.

 

[Squisher]

I loved the scene when Brienne confronted Melisandre and Davos.

That is not a tent I would sleep sound in. Jon, Sansa, Brienne, Melisandre, Davos, and Tormund.

 

[Newbian]

Go rewatch the scene. Edd noticed tormund ogling her.

I am glad I was not the only one that saw it and there is some good stuff going on right now about it:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...e-game-of-thrones_us_5739cb2ee4b08f96c1839172

I look forward to reading all your Brienne/Tormund fanfic in the morning, guys.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

That's true - maybe they could have had Daenerys escape with Jeor+other dude, then find Drogon, and then come back with a fiery vengeance to win over the Dothraki - as opposed to having Drogon come in on his own and laying waste to them. I just wish they could have done something that wasn't: survive a fire to have everyone who witnessed it worship you.

Either way it gets viewed as trite and lazy.

Oh, dragons beat humans! So what?

Oh, Daenerys can survive fire! Been there, done that!

She can sneak out, but then she doesn't get the army.

It's too bad that continent doesn't have an evil force like the Others/Wights are on Westeros. Then Danny and Drogon could have rescued the horde from certain slaughter and won their allegiance that way. At least it wouldn't be as cliche as the other options.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

I am glad I was not the only one that saw it and there is some good stuff going on right now about it:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...e-game-of-thrones_us_5739cb2ee4b08f96c1839172

Maybe somewhere down the road we can get a Jaime/Tormund duel for the right to marry Brienne.

 

[TheAdvocate]

Well then you have the Drogon flyover scene from the previews, which had me certain that Drogon was gonna come shish kebab the khals, and then let Dany mount again, which, in Dothraki culture, would have left them all soiling their pants in awe.

I don't hate the scene as it played out, but I would have at least cut to Jorah and Daario barring the doors for a half sec as Dany delivered the knock out blow.

Drogon would have been better though. However, she still has an issue in that all 3 of her dragons are loose. How does she collect them?

 

[Squisher]

However, she still has an issue in that all 3 of her dragons are loose. How does she collect them?

I think they'll find her if she's leading the Dothraki hoard back to Meereen. Not too many silver haired women with an army behind them in those parts.

 

[IAteYourMother]

I just realized I watched Episode 4 and accidentally skipped Episode 3. This explains a lot. Although it's a shockingly decent transition from 2 to 4.

 

[Childs]

Are we just glossing over the fact that a dead guy got resurrected? Everyone at Castle Black is just like, ho hum, Jon Snow was resurrected from the fucking dead. What???

I dunno, on the other side of the wall there are undead soldiers. And literally, there is a giant walking around. And dragons. And wolves the size of horses. And vagina smoke monsters. And dragons. And shapeshifters. I would think a person living in this universe would be surprised if something strange wasn't happening.

 

[IAteYourMother]

I dunno, on the other side of the wall there are undead soldiers. And literally, there is a giant walking around. And dragons. And wolves the size of horses. And vagina smoke monsters. And dragons. And shapeshifters. I would think a person living in this universe would be surprised if something strange wasn't happening.

nah the freakout is definitely there, it's just in episode 3!