HBO's original: Silicon Valley... Liking it so far! 'Nerdy entourage'

[Phokus]

It fucking does in a TV show. Now shut the fuck up!

lol

They had a behind the scenes thing where they really pride themselves on being very accurate technically... tonight was not a good night for that though. The fact that the porn company doesn't have backups was also a wtf moment.

 

[Red Squirrel]

I wonder if next episode they find out that it only deleted the source side and in fact have all the files on their own servers.

 

[ImpulsE69]

I wonder if next episode they find out that it only deleted the source side and in fact have all the files on their own servers.

Was thinking the same thing, weren't they downloading all that content to local? That is what I understood was happening which is why it was taking so long. It does seem unlikely there was no backup, but this show is about them taking 1 step forward and 2 steps back.

 

[preslove]

Horrible episode. The fired security coder story line went nowhere and was just filler. There weren't any funny jokes. And, the deletion at the end was impossible and technologically illiterate. Those files would have just been copies placed on an ftp server, not the originals, regular stream files, or even the backups.

 

[tortillasoup]

Horrible episode. The fired security coder story line went nowhere and was just filler. There weren't any funny jokes. And, the deletion at the end was impossible and technologically illiterate. Those files would have just been copies placed on an ftp server, not the originals, regular stream files, or even the backups.

The only saving grace they could have with the whole deletion excuse is that because it was so much data that they the porn company couldn't be bothered to put the data onto another server just for the purpose of sharing the data with the compression company.

 

[preslove]

The only saving grace they could have with the whole deletion excuse is that because it was so much data that they the porn company couldn't be bothered to put the data onto another server just for the purpose of sharing the data with the compression company.

Why would they even give access to everything for a tech demo? They would have just given them a small portion of their files. Why would the porn company give both companies all of their files? That would leave the loser company in possession of all that data. And, the $15 million contact was to do all of it. This bake sale was to demonstrate the tech and get the contract.

Given how critical this was, why was the command workstation with access to the porn server be a macbook air on the bar? And why wasn't there a confirmation dialogue box?

This episode was, at best, filler, and at worst a terrible, no good, worthless episode. Hopefully, things imimprove and whatever they have planned and was put off for this episode is exciting.

I bet hooli tries to buy again, and thus time the board forces Richard to sell.

 

[pontifex]

i like this show as well. pretty funny

 

[JM Aggie08]

Why would they even give access to everything for a tech demo? They would have just given them a small portion of their files. Why would the porn company give both companies all of their files? That would leave the loser company in possession of all that data. And, the $15 million contact was to do all of it. This bake sale was to demonstrate the tech and get the contract.

Given how critical this was, why was the command workstation with access to the porn server be a macbook air on the bar? And why wasn't there a confirmation dialogue box?

This episode was, at best, filler, and at worst a terrible, no good, worthless episode. Hopefully, things imimprove and whatever they have planned and was put off for this episode is exciting.

I bet hooli tries to buy again, and thus time the board forces Richard to sell.

UNIX, bruh.

 

[tortillasoup]

Why would they even give access to everything for a tech demo? They would have just given them a small portion of their files. Why would the porn company give both companies all of their files? That would leave the loser company in possession of all that data.

But these are videos that already exist and are being served on their servers. Having "possession" of this data doesn't really matter because of copyright laws. This isn't like patents or trade secrets or anything to that effect.

Given how critical this was, why was the command workstation with access to the porn server be a macbook air on the bar? And why wasn't there a confirmation dialogue box?

The optimist in me says "why anything", they do a handful of dumbstuff and putting the macbook on the bar was just careless but not inconceivable.

 

[OutHouse]

No company is going to give access to live data to two competing companies for a product demo.

Mike Judge failed this episode.

 

[OutHouse]

UNIX, bruh.

yea UNIX is so mysterious that pressing the delete key starts deleting files..... no command needed.

 

[zinfamous]

No company is going to give access to live data to two competing companies for a product demo.

Mike Judge failed this episode.

heightened drama. Story needed some type of competition that could be resolved directly in compressed time.

I swear if all you guys complaining about accuracy in content like this had your way, then no one would watch these shows.

 

[Exophase]

In a drama like Halt and Catch Fire these massive technical problems would irritate me but here they just amuse me. Kind of adds to the whole comic absurdity of it all. Not that I think that's intentional.

The whole concept of a theoretical optimum for a compression algorithm is ridiculous. And the idea of using a lossless compression algorithm for streaming video totally defies any notion of practicality.

There are some moments where you can tell they actually consulted with their technical advisers for bits of information, like when they were talking about possible vectors of attack today. Then there are moments where they must have told the advisers to go fuck themselves.

 

[JM Aggie08]

yea UNIX is so mysterious that pressing the delete key starts deleting files..... no command needed.

I was referring to confirmation dialogue comment.

 

[Craig234]

I think the show is really well done, including this episode - just give them some artistic license for things like the delete key, and enjoy the show.

Or maybe you'd rather have a show where the bottle was on the delete key, and nothing happened. That's entertainment!

They did well - like with that programmer, how he'd be so reasonable one minute, but then insult his ability to hack the network, and... the ego... very good episode.

 

[biostud]

Good show, this episode - meh. Gilfoyle is my favorite character, but they match each other well.

 

[pyonir]

I swear if all you guys complaining about accuracy in content like this had your way, then no one would watch these shows.

Imagine if they all watched CSI:Cyber.

 

[purbeast0]

i thought last nights episode was just fine. not the best or anything, but was still awesome.

 

[yottabit]

From the perspective of someone who's still fairly into computers but not the IT world like a lot of you guys I found that moment completely hilarious

The look on Hanneman's face when he first eyeballs the tequila bottle sitting on the keyboard was priceless. And how he's initially afraid to say anything...

I think it's funnier if you can look past the technicalities and think of the general premise of you can have the best firewall/antivirus/security protocols etc etc and still get screwed by something very simple

I also immediately thought of it as analogous to the "leaving the Username and PW on a Post it" mistake of Endframe. Kind of ironic in that sense

 

[WaTaGuMp]

 

[Aikouka]

Man, for a bunch of lawyers whose entire legal case rested on the "Baghead Defense", they were goddamn hawks once Ehrlich said that Richard's laptop crashed after running Nip Slip. Although, since everyone thinks we're being a little too analytical, let's look into this. An app like Nip Slip is most likely a phone app (doesn't make sense to run it on a desktop if you're trying to detect erect nipples... which seems strange to begin with ), which means Richard would've had to run it through the iOS Simulator or an Android VM (like Andy)... which most likely cannot crash your computer.

Anyway, my biggest question is this... doesn't Gavin get absolutely nothing out of this? Obviously, they didn't issue the ruling in this episode, but even in the judge comes down on Richard, it shouldn't matter at all. At least from what I can surmise, Pied Piper was a completely different program when he was working at Hooli. The whole middle-out thing happened after the infamous Dick Stroking Discussion in episode 10 of season 1. So, if Gavin is given the IP rights, he gets the rights to the algorithm that Richard was working on at that point, which he (or rather his employees) already stole in season 1.

Of course, I can't say that I'm an attorney... or an IP lawyer ... but that seems the most logical to me.

 

[smackababy]

Man, for a bunch of lawyers whose entire legal case rested on the "Baghead Defense", they were goddamn hawks once Ehrlich said that Richard's laptop crashed after running Nip Slip. Although, since everyone thinks we're being a little too analytical, let's look into this. An app like Nip Slip is most likely a phone app (doesn't make sense to run it on a desktop if you're trying to detect erect nipples... which seems strange to begin with ), which means Richard would've had to run it through the iOS Simulator or an Android VM (like Andy)... which most likely cannot crash your computer.

Could easily have been a Java applet that connected to a phone app to sync up. And, besides, I'm sure there is a way to crash a computer with an emulator, if you really tried.

Anyway, my biggest question is this... doesn't Gavin get absolutely nothing out of this? Obviously, they didn't issue the ruling in this episode, but even in the judge comes down on Richard, it shouldn't matter at all. At least from what I can surmise, Pied Piper was a completely different program when he was working at Hooli. The whole middle-out thing happened after the infamous Dick Stroking Discussion in episode 10 of season 1. So, if Gavin is given the IP rights, he gets the rights to the algorithm that Richard was working on at that point, which he (or rather his employees) already stole in season 1.

Of course, I can't say that I'm an attorney... or an IP lawyer ... but that seems the most logical to me.

I wonder about this as well. It seems like the IP that was being developed at Hooli was not the current iteration. While Gavin might win the "Pied Piper" name, he shouldn't own things derived after he left Hooli. But, since it was already established they don't use source control in the least bit (the 15 year old fucking everything up), I doubt that code even exists.

Even with that, the episode was pretty good. Erlich being destroyed on the stand was awesome, the "attorney" was actually pretty good, and Jared killing the museum guy was perfect.

 

[Red Squirrel]

This show does reinforce the fact that IP laws can really suck and so does the lawsuit system, in how a company can sue just to slow down competition. Stuff like this really does happen (ex: pretty much all the apple related lawsuits). In a real life situation they could very well lose rights to what they created just because it happened to be tested this one time on Hooli's computers. Though I guess it just comes to show if you're making a product while working for a company you really really have to use due diligence every single time. In fact my company has a clause that anything you create whether on your own time or not, is their property. I never heard of this actually being reinforced though. I imagine they'd only pursue a case if it is impeding on the company.

But back to the show, can't wait to see what happens next though. The guy at the museum falling down adds a nice touch, I imagine they will get news coverage and Pied Piper being the ones reporting it (I presume) will be mentioned as heroes. This can't be the last episode in the season right? This is a pretty huge cliff hanger if it really is!

 

[smackababy]

This show does reinforce the fact that IP laws can really suck and so does the lawsuit system, in how a company can sue just to slow down competition. Stuff like this really does happen (ex: pretty much all the apple related lawsuits). In a real life situation they could very well lose rights to what they created just because it happened to be tested this one time on Hooli's computers. Though I guess it just comes to show if you're making a product while working for a company you really really have to use due diligence every single time. In fact my company has a clause that anything you create whether on your own time or not, is their property. I never heard of this actually being reinforced though. I imagine they'd only pursue a case if it is impeding on the company.

But back to the show, can't wait to see what happens next though. The guy at the museum falling down adds a nice touch, I imagine they will get news coverage and Pied Piper being the ones reporting it (I presume) will be mentioned as heroes. This can't be the last episode in the season right? This is a pretty huge cliff hanger if it really is!

Bolded will never hold up in court. There is no way a company can own something you create using your own resources on your own time.

 

[Red Squirrel]

Bolded will never hold up in court. There is no way a company can own something you create using your own resources on your own time.

Yeah I always wondered how that would hold up, but since I had to sign on it, it would probably have some weight. I think they just put that there to try to cover their bases. It would probably be a case by case basis as to if they'd even persue it.

If I start building stuff related to my job they could say I used work knowledge/training to do it. It's kinda like how if you work for Microsoft you're not allowed to go work for Google within a year of no longer working for Microsoft, as you could use knowledge from Microsoft at Google.

But I guess we're getting off topic, this is a fictional show here.