HBO's original: Silicon Valley... Liking it so far! 'Nerdy entourage'

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Aikouka

Lifer
Nov 27, 2001
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I'm a bit baffled by this latest episode. The prior episodes seemed to have a decent handle on technological aspects, but this one... . What kind of outfit would have a Jenkins server but not a CM repository? Hell, I usually see the two tied together. :| The kid fubars your entire setup... it's called you roll back. Yeesh! Problem solved, and no getting bitch slapped over it!
 

AdamK47

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
15,323
2,930
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I'm a bit baffled by this latest episode. The prior episodes seemed to have a decent handle on technological aspects, but this one... . What kind of outfit would have a Jenkins server but not a CM repository? Hell, I usually see the two tied together. :| The kid fubars your entire setup... it's called you roll back. Yeesh! Problem solved, and no getting bitch slapped over it!

At least they could have used Git. Problem solved before there was even a problem.
 

KLin

Lifer
Feb 29, 2000
29,501
126
106
Git ftw. Always branch out for feature work. Never work on the development or master branches.

oh and Poor Jared lol.
 

ZaneNBK

Golden Member
Sep 14, 2000
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I'm a bit baffled by this latest episode. The prior episodes seemed to have a decent handle on technological aspects, but this one... . What kind of outfit would have a Jenkins server but not a CM repository? Hell, I usually see the two tied together. :| The kid fubars your entire setup... it's called you roll back. Yeesh! Problem solved, and no getting bitch slapped over it!

I had a bigger problem with them pretending that "Cloud", hell not even "the cloud", was some mysterious super-hard thing to develop for. It's the fucking internet and the app was already shown to be an internet app. "Cloud" was done already.

The episode was based on a "The Big Bang" level moronic "nerd" joke for a series that has so far been targeted at IT knowledgeable viewers. I still found it a pretty enjoyable episode but the technical aspects were very subpar compared to previous episodes. Not that any have been awesome in that respect really, it's just that pretty much everyone is aware that "The Cloud" equals "Internet" now.
 

Aikouka

Lifer
Nov 27, 2001
30,383
912
126
I had a bigger problem with them pretending that "Cloud", hell not even "the cloud", was some mysterious super-hard thing to develop for. It's the fucking internet and the app was already shown to be an internet app. "Cloud" was done already.

The episode was based on a "The Big Bang" level moronic "nerd" joke for a series that has so far been targeted at IT knowledgeable viewers. I still found it a pretty enjoyable episode but the technical aspects were very subpar compared to previous episodes. Not that any have been awesome in that respect really, it's just that pretty much everyone is aware that "The Cloud" equals "Internet" now.

Yeah, I don't know if I'd say it's as low as "The Big Bang Theory", but it was definitely a bit awkward given this show seems to be geared toward technically-inclined folk. I know I raised a brow at the beginning when he mentioned learning Ruby on Rails quickly and then pondered why he couldn't learn "The Cloud".

Based on the previews for the next episode, it looks like the Jared thing sort of solves itself as they're at the TechCrunch event, and he's there. Although, the preview for this past episode had something about loving Gilfoyle's code or something like that, and that wasn't in the episode. So, who knows!
 

xeemzor

Platinum Member
Mar 27, 2005
2,599
1
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The ending scene of tonight's episode was hilarious. So far this TV has been rock solid. I actually enjoy it more than Game of Thrones.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
110,820
29,571
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The ending scene of tonight's episode was hilarious. So far this TV has been rock solid. I actually enjoy it more than Game of Thrones.

lol yup. I might agree on both accounts.

well, when Boardwalk Empire returns, that will certainly beat out GoT for me, regardless.

....but I was a big Veep fan before this season, now I like SV quite a bit more.

but actually very good Veep episode this week, and last 2 episodes, really.
 

smackababy

Lifer
Oct 30, 2008
27,024
79
86
Last night's episode was pretty good, even if it was super predictable. I really like Gilfoyle and Dinesh.

I really helps that I've been to conferences like that and know people just like most of the twats in the show. I am so glad I don't work in Silicon Valley, and this show just serves as a reminder.
 

Xonim

Golden Member
Jul 13, 2011
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I've been kind of slow to come around to SV, I had a hard time getting through the first couple episodes. Last night's was excellent, hopefully they can keep it going.
 

purbeast0

No Lifer
Sep 13, 2001
52,931
5,803
126
this show is great, i am loving everything about it.

as far as the whole "cloud" thing, i was thinking that the kid they brought in knew specific cloud technologies like hadoop and the other guys had no clue about it. that is what i thought they meant by having him come in and "get the cloud up", not that it was just a server on the internet he was getting up.

but yeah, i agree about them not having some sort of repository being pretty stupid, especially when they showed them using jenkins and it passing all of the regression tests...
 

Train

Lifer
Jun 22, 2000
13,863
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as far as the whole "cloud" thing, i was thinking that the kid they brought in knew specific cloud technologies like hadoop and the other guys had no clue about it. that is what i thought they meant by having him come in and "get the cloud up", not that it was just a server on the internet he was getting up.

Moving an existing app to the cloud CAN be pretty hard, depending on how you do it.

Depending on your persistence layer, or how you handle sessions, you may need to do some pretty serious refactoring.

If you really want to set up an app to utilize the uber-scalability feature of a cloud service, you typically need to break the app into services and use a queuing or messaging architecture to tie them together.

Azure offers messaging service backplanes that can span multiple data centers with various fail over scenarios built in. That can be a lot to wrap your head around if you were used to doing single instance apps.
 

smackababy

Lifer
Oct 30, 2008
27,024
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Moving an existing app to the cloud CAN be pretty hard, depending on how you do it.

Depending on your persistence layer, or how you handle sessions, you may need to do some pretty serious refactoring.

If you really want to set up an app to utilize the uber-scalability feature of a cloud service, you typically need to break the app into services and use a queuing or messaging architecture to tie them together.

Azure offers messaging service backplanes that can span multiple data centers with various fail over scenarios built in. That can be a lot to wrap your head around if you were used to doing single instance apps.

This. And, from what it sounded like, he had written a stand alone app that did the compression / uncompression stuff: his music player. It wasn't like he had his app on a web server, and the front end was a website. Translating a stand alone app to a web accessible, scalable platform for things other than music is a tough thing to do, especially in the limited time frame they used on the show.

However, I can't really forgive the no source control.
 

Train

Lifer
Jun 22, 2000
13,863
68
91
www.bing.com
However, I can't really forgive the no source control.

If we reeeeally want to stretch reality to make the story work, I can think of two scenarios:

1) They were working off of local dev copy on a shared drive that wasn't committed. Stupid yes, but I've seen worse things happen.
2) The kid made a lot of db schema changes, and the team was only committing code changes. I've seen even experienced teams make this mistake. If you don't make all your db changes as idempotent scripts checked into a repo, it can be a nightmare to roll back.
 

Rage187

Lifer
Dec 30, 2000
14,276
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81
I love the show but the whole BK ad placement in one of the episodes almost made me stop watching.
 

smackababy

Lifer
Oct 30, 2008
27,024
79
86
I can' think of how many time I have had conversations similar to exactly how many handjobs a man can give in 10 minutes.
 

purbeast0

No Lifer
Sep 13, 2001
52,931
5,803
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haha yeah i was ROLLING at that whole ehrlich jerking guys off scene. one of the funniest scenes i can remember on a tv show. i would love to see the outtakes for that scene.
 
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