HBO's True Detective Season 2 - let's discuss!

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smackababy

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I liked it. It wasn't hard to follow (but, I'm not a moron. I can keep up with GoT, after all) and I think it set the setting up of the overall story was well done. I mean, I believe Colin Farrell is a total scumbag and I didn't immediately get annoyed by Vaughn. I'm not entirely sure what is up with Friday Night Lights, but I know it is some kind of shit childhood or something dark.
 

blankslate

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Jun 16, 2008
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I'm not entirely sure what is up with Friday Night Lights, but I know it is some kind of shit childhood or something dark.

Not sure but when he was talking to his supervisor about his paid leave while IA investigated the complaint about sexual favors involving that woman with the house-arrest ankle bracelet; I got the impression that he served a tour in the military and was deployed. Have to watch the episode and pay more attention to that scene.

Could be misinterpreting the dialogue though.


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Gooberlx2

Lifer
May 4, 2001
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Not sure but when he was talking to his supervisor about his paid leave while IA investigated the complaint about sexual favors involving that woman with the house-arrest ankle bracelet; I got the impression that he served a tour in the military and was deployed. Have to watch the episode and pay more attention to that scene.

If think he might have served as well, but almost certainly was employed by a military contractor ("Black Mountain" or some shit?), and that's what the corruption probe was about. His behavior looked PTSD-ish to me: suicidally reckless, had to use viagra.
 

smackababy

Lifer
Oct 30, 2008
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Not sure but when he was talking to his supervisor about his paid leave while IA investigated the complaint about sexual favors involving that woman with the house-arrest ankle bracelet; I got the impression that he served a tour in the military and was deployed. Have to watch the episode and pay more attention to that scene.

Could be misinterpreting the dialogue though.


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I swear to god you people don't watch these shows... His girlfriend asked him about his scars and said "I know you don't like to talk about your time in the Army..." To which he replied, "It happened before the Army."

I feel like I am the only person that pays attention to these shows.
 

Charmonium

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I swear to god you people don't watch these shows... His girlfriend asked him about his scars and said "I know you don't like to talk about your time in the Army..." To which he replied, "It happened before the Army."

I feel like I am the only person that pays attention to these shows.
I'm liking this guy for whatever other wacked out shit happens in the show. I go the impression he was ex-mil AND a military contractor - that's a normal career path for a lot of enlisted folks. They can make several times as a contractor than what they make as an e-grade. Going from there to being a cop is an easy jump. Lots of jobs love to take former military. Passing the psych eval can be an issue for some people but you've got to figure that there are ways to prep for those things.
 
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everyone is talking about how it's so confusing.

sure, there's a lot going on, but the basics are simple. there's a big real estate deal going down between some some bad guys trying to go legit. one of the players has gone missing and it's tying together all the lead characters.

I don't really understand how the young cop fits in, but the rest was more or less straightforward. I suspect it will get a lot darker and more interesting as we go on. I'm not gonna let the reviews bother me yet

Who cares about reviews. The time investment is nothing to watch a couple of episodes and make a determination if you want to watch the remaining.

I also don't get the confusion on the first episode, S1E1 was no less cryptic than S2E1. S1E1 told you almost nothing about what was going on or where the series was going other than it being essentially a murder investigation. I feel that's exactly where S2E1 is at right now.
 

MongGrel

Lifer
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Who cares about reviews. The time investment is nothing to watch a couple of episodes and make a determination if you want to watch the remaining.

I also don't get the confusion on the first episode, S1E1 was no less cryptic than S2E1. S1E1 told you almost nothing about what was going on or where the series was going other than it being essentially a murder investigation. I feel that's exactly where S2E1 is at right now.

:thumbsup::thumbsup:
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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I want to type many, many pages right now.

suffice to say: this is the best show on TV...I think ever. I want to go on about the opening scene of tonight's episode, the dialogue...Yeats, the Rilke, the Mann and even the Bard...the Hammet as if summoned from Robert Towne, even. Descarte hallucinating about the cartesian plain while suffering from the flu, watching a fly on his ceiling. The plaster, the plaster... Origin and exposition through poetry. And all of that in the first 4 minutes of the episode.

The fact that this is the best LA crime drama since Heat. The color pallet, the mood, the umber-sepia haze over Vinci that cuts through the neon LA night. Holly shitballs.

It's the best crime show ever, imo.

Anyway. I want to go on. It took me a few days to start the first episode, I took many naps, and had to put the characters and their history together after several re-viewings, more naps, whatever...but after episode 2 tonight: it's clear to say that HBO now has a show that is actually better than Deadwood. (I thought this impossible before, but True Detective is now the first contender)


This show, now through 2.2 seasons, is bloody brilliant. There has never been better writing on TV, anywhere. Breaking Bad....go fuck yourself.

I will say that season 2 ep 1 was a bit more confusing than the first season, episode 1: the characters and their relationships are far more complicated and the minor flashback was strangely disorienting (I guess fans expected significant flashback; so the the quick jump ended up being more confusing than otherwise). I get where the confusion would come from. The world was much smaller in that first episode last year. This one put you in the middle of everything, 5 minutes into the season.

Anyway, it's locked. Best show anywhere.
 
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pyonir

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Dec 18, 2001
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you guys didn't watch the opening scene of episode 2?

Best writing in TV ever (and I agree somewhat about not feeling the first episode as much...but holy shit)

I'll give you that the writing is great (best ever? I wouldn't go that far) but the delivery ruined it. Vince Vaughn was a terrible choice for this role. I gave him episode one...but he's still terrible in episode two.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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first season was super overrated. show was boring as shit for the most part and so anticlimatic. i tried to binge watch it but was having trouble staying awake for 2 episodes in a row. ill probably catch s2 when it's finished airing.

lol. none of that is true. too few splosions?
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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I'm thinking those are bean bag or rubber rounds. I rewatched that scene 3 times and saw no blood (aside from the previously dried pool).

everything is PG13 now. everything.

even Terminator movies.

the fucksticks at the MPAA have made this possible by decreeing: Gun violence good! blood bad! sex bad!

this is why every major action movie the last two decades, even the child friendly super hero movies--and especially those movies--have quadradoubled the bullets, and completely eliminated blood. From all of our minds. Bullets are harmless! Guns are harmless!

...anyway. I'm ranting. This show is better than that. Has no one ever watched Psycho? what the fuck, people?
 

blankslate

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Jun 16, 2008
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The call back to the masked people in season 1 is interesting...

I wonder how that will tie in...

It's disturbing to think that animal mask cult is present all the way out to the west. If they play it right that common thread running through season one and perhaps all the way through season two and into future seasons could be a new modern mythology in television.


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PottedMeat

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Apr 17, 2002
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I'll give you that the writing is great(best ever? I wouldn't go that far) but the delivery ruined it. Vince Vaughn was a terrible choice for this role. I gave him episode one...but he's still terrible in episode two.

there's something off about his dialogue compared to the other characters
 
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