hd 7950 3gb review.. amd beats fermi to a pulp

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sandorski

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i think we both Know i was talking about the 7900 in general,but carry on...

I didn't, but thanks for clarifying. However, I still am not sure how you are determining this. That said, no one would expect Sales at this Price point to be the same Volume $200-300 Cards sell for. What determines Good/Bad at this Price point would have to be compared to other Cards which have sold at that Price point.
 

Zanovar

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I didn't, but thanks for clarifying. However, I still am not sure how you are determining this. That said, no one would expect Sales at this Price point to be the same Volume $200-300 Cards sell for. What determines Good/Bad at this Price point would have to be compared to other Cards which have sold at that Price point.
Erm,what?,prices of these cards should be compared to other cards which have sold at the same price point?.fucking gibberish. these cards(7900 series incase you get confused|)should be priced on there own merit.which is over fuckin priced:sneaky:.forget how older cards were sold for it gets boring fast.



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MrTeal

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Erm,what?,prices of these cards should be compared to other cards which have sold at the same price point?.fucking gibberish. these cards(7900 series incase you get confused|)should be priced on there own merit.which is over fuckin priced:sneaky:.forget how older cards were sold for it gets boring fast.

If you don't compare them to cards in the same price bracket, how do you propose to determine their merit?
 

RussianSensation

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Green team has sunk to an all time low with this launch.

The green team is just upset that the red team is comprised of talented overclocking extraordinaires. Only the green team doesn't see the value of buying 20-30% factory underclocked cards for $450-550. What's wrong with those guys? I mean who doesn't want to pay high-end prices and then show their enthusiast prowess by overclocking the cards back to factory defaults? Green team is just jealous because they think overclocking is luck of the draw but we red team members know it's all skill.

I really don't understand what the problem is regarding performance either. I mean, HD7950 is only $450-480, came out only 1 year after HD6950, on a brand new 28nm tech and is at least 50% faster than an unlocked 6950 for 2x the asking price. What's the problem?

This is easily the largest increase in gaming performance from one generation to the next, especially given a modest $220-250 price increase over an unlocked HD6950. For the first time, we can safely throw away our 1080P monitors and crank 4AA at 2560x1600 and Tessellation and get 50-60 fps in modern games. :thumbsup:















 
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RussianSensation

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I am glad we are back to the glory days when GTX280 was 2x more expensive for 20% more performance than the HD4870. Yay!











Xmas has arrived early at AMD headquarters. $450-480 HD7950 is amazing. OMG, I can finally max out Mass Effect 3 when it comes out in a month!

I am so happy that AMD has fixed AA performance for Starcraft 2. Futureproof guaranteed for Heart of the Swarm. That alone justifies the $450+ price tag.



Overall, 1 year later, 18% more performance than HD6970 and 4% faster than GTX580 on a brand new 28nm tech. Kepler better be at least 20% faster than HD7970 or it's a failure in my book. I think NV is on its last legs. Can't see them survive much past 2012 unless Tegra 3 really takes off.

Oh and, 3GB of VRAM? Unbelievable. I think I might need to get 2 more 1920x1080P monitors for Eyefinity. 3GB of VRAM is making a huge difference for Eyefinity performance. The HD7950 is freaken flying. But did you know, it's the next generation??!!! I think it's time to pull the trigger. Just don't know which brand to get. Although, I heard the HardOCP HD7900 series cards are special. I saw somewhere that they are 70-80% faster because they have to undergo more rigorous testing procedures. Looks like they are not on sale on Newegg though. Bummer.
 
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WMD

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Oh well I guess russian is right. I see the value in the 7950 now. Looking at those benchmarks again I would agree the performance gain over the unlocked 6950 is nothing short of amazing considering its only 2x the price. Never been done before in previous releases. Or maybe I should start saving up $900 for 8970 to play crysis 3/ Battlefield 4.
 

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So is someone going to make a general sticky for hd7950 reviews soon or...? (I don't really feel like it but, you know, if anyone feels like it... it is an important launch)
 

AtenRa

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I believe he wants to see the performance difference between HD7950/70 against HD6950 in CF
 

hclarkjr

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I believe he wants to see the performance difference between HD7950/70 against HD6950 in CF
what he said!!! () trying to decide if i want to wait for 7950's to come down in price or get anther 6950 and run crossfire
 

sandorski

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Ah, ok. The Reviewer I mentioned kept saying "6950" instead of "7950", so it kinda stuck in my head.
 

SlowSpyder

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If AMD priced this thing at $229 the Nvidia guys would have bashed AMD for not having business sense. They would be upset that Nvidia will now have to price their parts very low to compete, and these companies won't make money for R&D on the next parts. When AMD prices the card near an Nvidia card that is slower and also uses more power and puts out more heat, then they get bashed for the price being too high.

This is a launch with no real competition. This is what happens in these cases. If you really want a 7950 at a lower price, wait for Kepler. Right now AMD has the better high end cards, and they are priced as so. Once Kepler arrives things will likely change, we'll have competition again and prices will reflect that.
 

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Awesome :awe: time to cherry pick benchmarks to suit my argument, 6970 is faster than the gtx 580 yes! I am inspired by the greatest nvidia shills.

(note tongue in cheek, not serious, i love everyone here, etc)
 
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If AMD priced this thing at $229 the Nvidia guys would have bashed AMD for not having business sense. They would be upset that Nvidia will now have to price their parts very low to compete, and these companies won't make money for R&D on the next parts. When AMD prices the card near an Nvidia card that is slower and also uses more power and puts out more heat, then they get bashed for the price being too high.

This is a launch with no real competition. This is what happens in these cases. If you really want a 7950 at a lower price, wait for Kepler. Right now AMD has the better high end cards, and they are priced as so. Once Kepler arrives things will likely change, we'll have competition again and prices will reflect that.

You do realize that the 580 is a soon to be discontinued card? Prices are still ridiculous on them because retailers have already bought the stock and don't want to eat a loss on them otherwise they'd be about $300 so they could get rid of what nvidia has left.

You might as well compare 79XX to gtx 480's or gtx 280's too.
 

Olikan

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The true story is how are 7970's still selling? Most people will see the $480 price tag of the 7950 and then just buy a 7970 for the extra money.

most of the 7970 are sold out...

the cheaps 7950 are sold out too

Prices are still ridiculous on them because retailers have already bought the stock and don't want to eat a loss on them otherwise they'd be about $300 so they could get rid of what nvidia has left.

what you say is true...if fanboys still buy a gtx580 for 500 bucks, then there is no reason to nvidia drop the prices.

Look at bulldozer, same story
 
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Define soon. Give us a date.

Just a guess on my part. I'd surprise me if they are still manufacturing 580's today. They are obsolete now that 7950/7970 are out. Surely the fab space could be better put to use than manufacturing obsolete hardware.
 

Exterous

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Erm,what?,prices of these cards should be compared to other cards which have sold at the same price point?.fucking gibberish.

Well, thats the stupidest post I've seen today and I just came from reading P&N! Of course the other cards have to be taken into account for pricing!

Is AMD doing what is right for their business? Most likely. We CANNOT know for sure until we know launch numbers/margin etc but it does seem to make sound business sense for now. Why? AMD currently has no competition. Are we comparing a new card to nvidia's old card? Yes - but thats the only comparison we can make right now as nvidia has no alternative.

The big question is what will happen when nvidia releases their new card. Will AMD need to drop their price to remain competative? Will they be able to and still make a profit? My guess is they will drop their price and they can drop their price enough to continue to make money while selling their cards. If so then what they are doing now make perfect sense. Charge the most you can get out of your cards from the people who want/need to upgrade now and while you have no competition. Then - once you do have competition, adjust your prices accordingly.

It sucks for us but its good for AMD
 
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Zanovar

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Well, thats the stupidest post I've seen today and I just came from reading P&N! Of course the other cards have to be taken into account for pricing!

Is AMD doing what is right for their business? Most likely. We CANNOT know for sure until we know launch numbers/margin etc but it does seem to make sound business sense for now. Why? AMD currently has no competition. Are we comparing a new card to nvidia's old card? Yes - but thats the only comparison we can make right now as nvidia has no alternative.

The big question is what will happen when nvidia releases their new card. Will AMD need to drop their price to remain competative? Will they be able to and still make a profit? My guess is they will drop their price and they can drop their price enough to continue to make money while selling their cards. If so then what they are doing now make perfect sense. Charge the most you can get out of your cards from the people who want/need to upgrade now and while you have no competition. Then - once you do have competition, adjust your prices accordingly.

It sucks for us but its good for AMD
Back at at you,the most stupidest post ive seen today,im guessing your view we should be paying 3k for cards in the not to distant future?fucking ridiculas.i couldnt give a flying fuck what you think is good for amd either,give it a rest jeesus fucking christ.


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thilanliyan

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You do realize that the 580 is a soon to be discontinued card? Prices are still ridiculous on them because retailers have already bought the stock and don't want to eat a loss on them otherwise they'd be about $300 so they could get rid of what nvidia has left.

Proof they'd be selling for $300?

Why are you bringing up a HYPOTHETICAL price?
 

ArchAngel777

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Back at at you,the most stupidest post ive seen today,im guessing your view we should be paying 3k for cards in the not to distant future?fucking ridiculas.i couldnt give a flying fuck what you think is good for amd either,give it a rest jeesus fucking christ.

Wow, watch the language man. Anyway, in the not too distant future (whatever they means!) Video Cards SHOULD and WILL be $3,000. Inflation + Time is why... You seriously don't expect that a candy bar should still be 5 cents, do you? Give it 10 years, maybe 20, but expect prices to continue to go up.
 
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