hd 7950 3gb review.. amd beats fermi to a pulp

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Subyman

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All of AMD's cards always cost $8 for shipping when they're launched on Newegg. That was it for the 7970, and that was it for the 6970 and 5870. Also, almost all manufacturers include bundles with their cards. Even their current best bang-for-buck card, the HD 6870, is being sold left and right with DiRT 3.

But please, keep trying to make arguments out of thin air.

Hmmm, do you understand what deflecting means? It means I said one thing and then tried to move away from that initial point by saying something else. That's not what I did at all.

Again the dirt 3 is not a bundle. You get a coupon from newegg and all the cards have it. Again, if they were selling like hot cakes there would be no need for discounted shipping and a free game to be added 24 hours after launch.
 

LOL_Wut_Axel

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Hmmm, do you understand what deflecting means? It means I said one thing and then tried to move away from that initial point by saying something else. That's not what I did at all.

Again the dirt 3 is not a bundle. You get a coupon from newegg and all the cards have it. Again, if they were selling like hot cakes there would be no need for discounted shipping and a free game to be added 24 hours after launch.

Yep, still trying to deflect. You're not worth the time it takes for me to write a reply to your non-arguments pulled out of thin air, so don't bother. Goodbye.
 

BallaTheFeared

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Then let us separate opinions from facts. You claim the 7950 is not a high end card, fair to say this is an opinion. The review on this site says in the title that this is a high end card. I would tend to consider that more of a fact. Agreed?

Fact that it states it, opinion none the less though.


I don't see the point in arguing for or against a company, as such I will retire from this discussion.

However if what you wanted from 40nm to 28nm was the same price structure, the same performance, with better performance per watt and better thermals you've got yourself a winner.

Personally I'll wait for a real performance increase and an increase in performance per dollar.
 
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LOL_Wut_Axel

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Doh! Ok, either way, my point stands.

But after it was released they also bundled DiRT 2 coupons. They did it for the HD 5870 and the HD 5850 and they gave you FREE (!!!) shipping, so that MUST mean those cards sold like crap.
 

LOL_Wut_Axel

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Fact that it states it, opinion none the less though.


I don't see the point in arguing for or against a company, as such I will retire from this discussion.

However if what you wanted from 40nm to 28nm was the same price structure, the same performance, with better performance per watt and better thermals you've got yourself a winner.

Personally I'll wait for a real performance increase and an increase in performance per dollar.

Funny how you say "wait for Kepler" yet ignore any time the HD 8000 series is mentioned, isn't it?
 

GaiaHunter

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Best way to buy hardware: buy the best you can afford when you are set to buy (because you aren't satisfied with your performance or are setting a new build).

Otherwise you might be waiting for BD (or worse buying an AM3+ MB waiting for BD) or might be waiting for the imminent release of Fermi in october, wait november, nono before the end of december, 100% sure in january, 110% sure in february, march but only reviews no card, yay april I told you it was imminent for the last 6 months.
 

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Did the Sapphire 7950 OC edition drop to $479 from $499 or am I imagining things?
If this keeps up all the reference models will be $400 by the end of the week.
 
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I'll start off my first post here on Anandtech that I understand why AMD is pricing their graphics cards aggressively. The 7970/7950 are priced roughly where they should be based on the competing 580. Until Nvidia lowers their price on that card there is no reason for AMD to follow suit. Unless you already have a 580 and want to SLI for more performance people are going to recommend the 7970 or 7950 over it.

That being said I'm a little butthurt, my own fault completely, over their pricing. I have a Nvidia 9800GT and was seriously planning on getting a 6950/6970 while sales were going on over the Christmas holidays. I kept holding off on rumors of AMD releasing the new 7000 series in January. The $550 pricetag for reference 7970s sure slapped me in the face. Now I have to wait for the AIBs to start producing custom boards and man up and pay or wait for Nvidia to release their kepler, hopefully not pricing above the 7970, and start a price war. Either way I'm out in the cold for a couple months with my 9800GT =(.
 

BallaTheFeared

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Well that's not a good way to promote nVidia.

"Buy AMD now or Wait for Maxwell."

I'd buy AMD now than wait for Maxwell, thank you very much.

lol it was a joke, and I'm by no means promoting Nvidia here.

I'm saying these prices should, and most likely will come down within a few months depending solely on when Nvidia comes to market with their 28nm chips.

However as one poster pointed out there is really no telling when Nvidia will arrive.

By all means buy a 7950/7970, just don't pay a premium for first come first serve marketing if you don't have to.
 

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Could buy as many of them as I wanted. I didn't get to this point though just throwing around money on foolish purchases. Sorry. I bought a gtx 480 for $200 and bought a aftermarket cooler for $40. My 480 is overclocked and can match a stock 7970 in BF3 while running cooler and quieter. Still wanna have the price performance argument? Didnt think so. Overpriced and underperforming when you consider it is a new architecture and on a node shrink.

Sorry the one game, that has a POS buggy engine, is not going to convince me your card is as good as a 7970. The 480 power consumption and heat generation is through the roof compared to a 7970. The 480 gets soundly beat in literally every other game. Overclock the 7970 and it's completely ridiculous how big of the gaps that open up over the 580.
 

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The difference is only one of those releases is imminent.

Wait for Maxwell.



Enthusiast Kepler is imminent. Oh, really? Then why hasn't NVIDIA already shipped it for revenue? After you ship for revenue it takes one-two months for a hard launch.

Three months to launch is the minimum it'll take, and I fail to see how that is "imminent". Information on Enthusiast Kepler is scarce, and engineering samples have not been supplied to anyone, and if they had working samples they would've demonstrated them at recent events. That alone should tell you a lot about how "imminent" Kepler's release is.
 

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The pricing only sucks because there's no competition.
Hence how NV kept the GTX580 at $500 for a year. There was no competition.

The pricing sucks because they can get away with it.
When they can't get away with it, the pricing will be the same. NV pricing is a required part of the conversation, because NV pricing along with AMD pricing drives the market.

By talking about AMD pricing you are inherently talking about NV pricing.

Reread the posts he and I were exchanging. I said the pricing sucks. Then he said "Nvidia gets a free pass," implying that I said or think Nvidia is allowed to get away with pricing their products high. I NEVER said that. All I said was the pricing sucks and this card would have been a great card but it's priced too high and by the time it drops then this card's relevance will be reduced.
 

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Maybe soon we will be able to get a $300 HD 7870, OC it to the $500+ GTX 580 level or even past that and see what's overpriced and what's not.
 

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Enthusiast Kepler is imminent. Oh, really? Then why hasn't NVIDIA already shipped it for revenue? After you ship for revenue it takes one-two months for a hard launch.

Three months to launch is the minimum it'll take, and I fail to see how that is "imminent". Information on Enthusiast Kepler is scarce, and engineering samples have not been supplied to anyone, and if they had working samples they would've demonstrated them at recent events. That alone should tell you a lot about how "imminent" Kepler's release is.

you pretty much nailed it there :thumbsup: and is what i have said/think all along.

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Edit: plus when you promise apple, you better not come short. nVidia will supply apple/mobile chips first as other sites have reported and that mobile chips are being shipped to OEM currently is the latest.
 
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Now $10 price drop on reference sapphire 7950 on top of free shipping and game. Wow. All still in stock except for ref asus card. They really missed the mark on this one. I hope amd has a long successful future in the gpu industry but it's kinda funny to see the 7950 launch go over so badly.
 

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Now $10 price drop on reference sapphire 7950 on top of free shipping and game. Wow. All still in stock except for ref asus card. They really missed the mark on this one. I hope amd has a long successful future in the gpu industry but it's kinda funny to see the 7950 launch go over so badly.


How is that bad? isn't that, what this discussion is about, price?

so they drop price and suddenly its a bad thing, WOW (Dude get some sleep, your all over the place lol):thumbsdown:
This is Good News for everyone waiting for a price drop (That would include me also)

edit: look at the 7970`s, they are still flying even with the 7950 listing
 
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