Originally posted by: TheSnowman
Yeah, Blu-ray and HDDVD without HDCP will surely work though any AVIVO enabled card just as well as H.264 videos already do, and HDCP is apparently supported by AVIVO as well so that should work to assuming the AVIVO enabled chip is placed on a card with HDCP support and that card is placed in a system that meets all the other requirements. Unfortunately, what those requirements are doesn't quite seem to be nailed down quite yet, so it seems we are all waiting at this point.
Originally posted by: Justin343563611
They should just kill HDCP, it's so pointless.
Originally posted by: rbV5
Originally posted by: Justin343563611
They should just kill HDCP, it's so pointless.
Consumers WANT commercially available HD content to purchase and view. Without a copy protection mechanism, little content will ever be available.
Originally posted by: Wellsoul2
Originally posted by: rbV5
Originally posted by: Justin343563611
They should just kill HDCP, it's so pointless.
Consumers WANT commercially available HD content to purchase and view. Without a copy protection mechanism, little content will ever be available.
I dunno..seems like alot of hoops to jump through for dubious benefits for
anti-piracy. Does this thing read serial numbers too? Kiss it goodbye if so.
I hate the whole idea and think it drags technology down.
What is so great about 1080i ? It's so ten years ago!!
These guys could sell tons of stuff if they weren't such proprietary morons!
Everybody made money when they went from b/w to color and tons of
dough renting and selling VHS and DVD tapes and hardware.
This crap about HD needing to be "protected" slows down real progress people would
pay for.
Seriously, I'm happy all the mfg's are dragging their feet..this idea of having all my
components have to comply with 128bit encryption and identify themselves to Intel
and Microsoft seems excessive. Maybe we should give our citizen identity number
as well just to make sure we are not illegal persons!
As for movies and music..if these guys spent money on finding new talent rather than
lawyers and dubious copy protection they'd sell more product.
Originally posted by: Golgatha
1) Wait for next gen copy protection to be compromised.
Originally posted by: shabby
I dunno about you, but i dont intend to watch bluray on a computer monitor, thats what the plasma(hdcp compliant, whew) is for.
Originally posted by: jiffylube1024
It's definitely annoying but early adopters are usually the ones who pay huge prices anyways, so I don't think HDCP is as big of an issue as it seems since HD media isn't available yet, nor are HD players, etc.
Pretty much any HDTV bought in the last 2-3 years should be HDCP compliant (my 47" Panasonic CRT HDTV is HDCP compiant, for example). And for monitors, again, since Vista isn't here yet, and more importantly HD-DVD or Blue Ray movies are not available, it's currently a nonissue.
It does suck for the people who save up all their money to buy a 2405fpw that they expect to last them the next 5+ years though...
Originally posted by: JonnyBlaze
For the people saying they wont switch to vista just because of this, remember that no matter what os your on, linux, xp, 2000, you still wont be able to play the protected content. So if you like vista in other respects this shouldnt matter.
Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: JonnyBlaze
For the people saying they wont switch to vista just because of this, remember that no matter what os your on, linux, xp, 2000, you still wont be able to play the protected content. So if you like vista in other respects this shouldnt matter.
Wanna bet? Or you really think only Microsoft Vista users will be able to see HDCP content in it's full glory? And only if they have the "right" HW. Sorta limiting your market that way. Billions of alternate OS users out there.. Not to mention all the linux servers who will have to serve this stuff up
Apple will be on board too, possibly with the release of Leopard (Mac OS X 10.5). Tiger saw the light of day in April, and with the company intending to release Leopard around the same time as Vista, that means that we'll be seeing HDCP support on the Mac (powered by Intel!) probably around the same time as the release of Windows Vista. And until then, we'll all be scratching our heads as to how our Linux friends will solve this quandary, because HDCP has to be commercially licensed. Well, that is unless DVD Jon swoops in again, but cracking BDA's discs won't be as simple as cracking CSS.
Originally posted by: flashbacck
I was just reading stuff about HDCP, and were you guys aware that the HDCP licensing body can revoke HDCP-keys? For example, if someone hacks a Sony player, or manages to get a hold of it's HDCP security key, the HDCP licensing body can revoke that key. This would render any homemade devices the hacker tries to make non-HDCP compliant, as well as any legitimate Sony devices that use that key. And how are they going to get consumer devices to invalidate themselves? They're going to sneak it in on new and upcoming blu-ray/HD-DVD disks! HDCP is freak'n ri-cock-ulous!
http://www.engadget.com/2005/07/21/the-clicker-hdcps-shiny-red-button/
Originally posted by: Zebo
Jonny thanks for the link - I don't care what they "say" I have faith in market realites, like wanting to sell the products, as a basis for my prediction. Just like XP corp editions which bypasses MS's activation hurdles.