HDCP LCD MONITORS

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n7

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This is not Microsofts fault!

If you want someone to blame, blame the MPAA, since they are pushing HDCP on movies studios & everyone planning to use HD-DVD & Blu-Ray.

Bill Gates himself has stated that he doesn't feel Blu-Ray is very user friendly, but he's not the one designing the protection...
 

MobiusPizza

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so having a resolution like 1680x1050 is just not ideal for that type of content.
ull have to watch it streatched or occupying a small part of the screen in the case of 720p or ull be missing part of the picture in the case of 1080p... either way not very fun.

I have to argue against that. I downloaded HDTV demos from apple and watched it on my 2005FPW with 1680*1050. The image quality is astonishing for both 720p and 1050p and to be honest I cannot distinguish between them at the first sight.
1680*1050 being in the middle ground is flexible enough to watch both type with best effect in contrast of having a 1920 monitor limited to only watching 1050p and 720p would look worse.

Note majority of content available in HDTV format are 720p
 

8steve8

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just because you cant tell the difference between a 128k mp3 and lossless doesnt mean there isnt one...
but be sure there is a large difference between 1080p and 720p, but on ur monitor one is heavily scaled down, losing data, and the other is streatched, causing quality problems as well....

so neither one will look great...

but im sure they look better than 480p, which is what ur used to on a dvd, and you probably watch that streatched massively as well, ...





im not sure why ppl are even arguing this, its common sense,,,
u have to throw away definition of 1080p video to view it!!! ur throwing away info!!!!!!
thats clearly not ideal in my eyes...
 

Googer

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Originally posted by: ViRGE
Originally posted by: w00t
nice, a list on all of them the only ones i knew were the samsung 244t and gateway 21''

I really dont think that HDCP is going to fall through though even if it does its going to be hacked for sure.
It's already been hacked. There are some German techies who manufacture a HDCP-compliant arbiter box that allows a user to use a normal DVI monitor. Of course it's not legal to buy in the US...

Do you have a link?
 
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As Mathias said, HDMI= A revised DVI, electrically compatible, usually carries HDCP (High Definition Copy Protection) It's been around for 2 years, and is not cracked.

Firewire on consumer-grade A/V gear carries 5C copy protection. It has been hacked, but the results are less than great.
 

8steve8

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hdmi also carries audio, i believe in a digital fashion, its basically dvi + audio, in a smaller connector... and yes since hdmi is more suited towards televisions... equipment that use them usually have hdcp, but tvs with dvi also usually have hdcp, so its not really tied to the connector.
 

imported_goku

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Doesn't it not matter if a computer monitor has HDCP because the graphics card has to support it as well?
 

dexvx

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Why do they even make 1680x1050...

I wish they'd get a freaking standard ratio with these resolutions for once. Watching stuff all distorted or with huge black stripes around the image pisses me off.
 

aatf510

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How important is HDCP?
Assuming you only use the computer monitor with a computer? Is HDCP needed at all?
 
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Doesn't it not matter if a computer monitor has HDCP because the graphics card has to support it as well?

HDCP might be added in the OS/vid driver for existing equipment. AFAIK, there is no way of adding the HDCP handshake to monitors.


How important is HDCP? Assuming you only use the computer monitor with a computer? Is HDCP needed at all?

Copy protection isn't needed by anyone except greedy content companies. Piracy is is a hugely overblown issue, but they have to make life difficult for their customers just to squeeze out every penny. Technically, HDCP will be required with MS Vista and any displays (monitors, tvs, even recorders and stuff) with a digital connection. Analog connections will be "down-rezzed".
 

rbV5

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Originally posted by: xtknight
Where do you see the Samsung 244t has HDCP?


From the 244t user manual:

Input Signal, Terminated
Analog RGB, DVI Compliant Digital RGB, S-VHS, Composite.Component, HDCP,
SOG, 0.7Vp-p Positive at 75O
Separate H/V sync,TTL level positive or negative


Link
 

oxid

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Sure it aint one of these marketing tricks such as video cards apparently being HDCP-compliant for 3 years now, but still not one existing video card has a HDCP chip? one of the things I want to build a computer around is HDTV, and I want to be sure about it...
 

TecHNooB

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Saw a deal for the Gateway 21" @ Staples and wanted to find out if it was HDCP compliant.

Now it's between the Gateway 21" or the Samsung 244t..

Bump!
 

zest

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Think I am gonna go for Samsung 19" Widescreen High-Definition Flat-Panel LCD Monitor
Model: 940MW
When it becomes availablbe...Or mabe the BenQ 20" wW/S HD.

I have no need for anything bigger than 21"

 

xtknight

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Add NEC MultiSync 20WMGX2. One user called via phone and they said HDCP was supported. Also here's the response from an e-mail I sent to NEC:

Dear Sir
The 20WMGX2 does support HDCP via the DVI-D connector.

S. Balgaroo
NEC Display Service & Support
Telephone: 1-800-632-4662
Email: techsupport@necdisplay.com
 

zest

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Originally posted by: darXoul
Heh, yea, the Euro version 20WGX2 doesn't support HDCP.

It seems so...

Here is more info. on tis monitor : http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=26171

Do you jnow that the Sony 19" SDM-HS95PR has a hidden panel on the back that reveals addiditional digital ports like HDMI interface and is fully HDPC compliant..& this is not a new monitor as such. Just shows how Sony plan well for future tecnologies.
Only thing is that they are a bit pricey but hey! you get what you pay for.

 

Googer

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Originally posted by: w00t
nice, a list on all of them the only ones i knew were the samsung 244t and gateway 21''

I really dont think that HDCP is going to fall through though even if it does its going to be hacked for sure.

It already has been hacked. Some german built a decoder box.
 

w00t

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I am so close to just buying a 2005FPW instead of waiting for the 2007FPW.
 

Googer

Lifer
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HDCP should be standard fare by early 2007. If you want a new screen, I sugest you wait untill then.
 
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