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nakedfrog

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http://www.guitarcenter.com/Ibanez/GD10-Dreadnought-Acoustic-Guitar-Natural-1334587639019.gc

I have been thinking about this one. I have been playing for about 18 months and can play a few simple songs on my fender strat. One thing I know is to play any guitar you want to buy.
Well, stop thinking about that one. Just stop.
I'd maybe say to take a gamble on it if you didn't already have a guitar, but you do already have one, so you just take the money you were thinking of putting towards that one, and keep an eye out for next time Adorama is having a sale on their Yamaha FG series.
 

Fritzo

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Here's my best advice:

1- Don't skimp on your first instrument. Garbage in-Garbage out. If you get a $100 guitar, you'll probably have intonation issues, problems keeping it in tune, and issues with fret buzz. These issues will make it sound like you suck, discourage you, and then make you quit. $300-$500 will get you in a range for a good starter acoustic with decent playability.

2- Get at least 6-10 professional lessons. They'll teach you fingering, how the fretboard works, and some basic concepts you can build on. If you try learning on your own, there's nobody there to correct your mistakes and you'll end up going down the wrong path.

3- Devote 30 minutes a day to it. Your fingers will hurt for the first few weeks (this is where most people end up quitting). Start a lesson, then go over it for the full 30 minutes. The next day, do the lesson again and add lesson 2...and so on. Repetition is the #1 skill builder in guitar playing.

Keep in mind you'll think "I can't do this!" for the first few months. Keep at it! One day it will click. Promise.
 

gorcorps

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Well... TBH I wouldn't recommend an acoustic as a first guitar, but if you're set on that then I'd suggest an Ovation:

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Ovation/Celebrity-Standard-Mid-Depth-Cutaway-Acoustic-Electric-Guitar.gc

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Ovation...Mid-Depth-Cutaway-Acoustic-Electric-Guitar.gc

It's acoustic-electric, and has a rounded lyrachord back (basically hard resin and fiberglass) instead of flat wood. IMO it's more comfortable, less bulky, and because of the lyrachord back you don't have to worry about humidity control in dry states as much. You don't want your acoustic to develop cracks.
 

monkeydelmagico

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Any opinions on monoprice guitars? I keep hearing good things about them especially for the price.
 

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Devote 30 minutes a day to it. Your fingers will hurt for the first few weeks (this is where most people end up quitting).

I typically play an hour a day on most days, and even though I have pretty thick callouses on my left hand my fingers still hurt after a session. Guitar is the only instrument I play so I have no point of comparison but I have heard others say it is one of the more physically difficult instruments to master. Have to invest some pain, I guess.
 

nakedfrog

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Apr 3, 2001
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Here's my best advice:

1- Don't skimp on your first instrument. Garbage in-Garbage out. If you get a $100 guitar, you'll probably have intonation issues, problems keeping it in tune, and issues with fret buzz. These issues will make it sound like you suck, discourage you, and then make you quit. $300-$500 will get you in a range for a good starter acoustic with decent playability.

2- Get at least 6-10 professional lessons. They'll teach you fingering, how the fretboard works, and some basic concepts you can build on. If you try learning on your own, there's nobody there to correct your mistakes and you'll end up going down the wrong path.

3- Devote 30 minutes a day to it. Your fingers will hurt for the first few weeks (this is where most people end up quitting). Start a lesson, then go over it for the full 30 minutes. The next day, do the lesson again and add lesson 2...and so on. Repetition is the #1 skill builder in guitar playing.

Keep in mind you'll think "I can't do this!" for the first few months. Keep at it! One day it will click. Promise.
This is all good advice.
Well... TBH I wouldn't recommend an acoustic as a first guitar, but if you're set on that then I'd suggest an Ovation:

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Ovation/Celebrity-Standard-Mid-Depth-Cutaway-Acoustic-Electric-Guitar.gc

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Ovation...Mid-Depth-Cutaway-Acoustic-Electric-Guitar.gc

It's acoustic-electric, and has a rounded lyrachord back (basically hard resin and fiberglass) instead of flat wood. IMO it's more comfortable, less bulky, and because of the lyrachord back you don't have to worry about humidity control in dry states as much. You don't want your acoustic to develop cracks.
I would have a really hard time recommending an Ovation to a person for their first guitar, since they tend to be such a love it or hate it thing. I've had a couple (I currently have one, as my travel/camping guitar).
 

Oyeve

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GC usually has good Fender and Yamaha starter guitar kits for around 200 or so. I would definitely look into those. I bought my first (of many) guitars in a used shop around 35 years ago. I paid 150 for a Vantage Ghost. Turns out it's one of the best guitars ever made. Still play it to this day. Anyway, about 10 years ago I wanted to play on acoustic and bought a cheap Yamaha for 99 bucks at GC and its still in use today. So, cheap doesn't mean crap.
 

JulesMaximus

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This one.

Will be good enough to continue playing for years, even after your skills have developed.

Remember to negotiate the cost down a bit, or to have them throw in a hard case and some strings with the purchase. If you're just starting out, some thinner strings will be easier to play at first.

Is that a steel string guitar or nylon?

To the OP, what type of music do you want to play? Unless you want to learn classical guitar I'd start out on a steel string guitar. I've never played a classical guitar but man I love the sound of them.

I have an Ibanez I bought probably 10 years ago. Pretty happy with it although I don't play it nearly enough. It has a nice warm tone and it has held up well over the years.

Mine is similar to this one.

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Ibanez/AW400-Artwood-Solid-Top-Dreadnought-Acoustic-Guitar.gc
 
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Cappuccino

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Yamaha is best same with Piano. You need to get a acoustic guitar unless you are rich then feel free to buy the good stuff.
 

Fritzo

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Well... TBH I wouldn't recommend an acoustic as a first guitar, but if you're set on that then I'd suggest an Ovation:

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Ovation/Celebrity-Standard-Mid-Depth-Cutaway-Acoustic-Electric-Guitar.gc

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Ovation...Mid-Depth-Cutaway-Acoustic-Electric-Guitar.gc

It's acoustic-electric, and has a rounded lyrachord back (basically hard resin and fiberglass) instead of flat wood. IMO it's more comfortable, less bulky, and because of the lyrachord back you don't have to worry about humidity control in dry states as much. You don't want your acoustic to develop cracks.

My first guitar was an Ovation You DO have to worry about the binding around the body separating from the plastic/wood having different expansion rates. Truthfully though, of the half dozen acoustics I've owned, I never had one crack on me.

Also, there's debate over the "best" type of first guitar. I like starting with an acoustic because you have to play correctly for it to sound good, plus it builds finger strength. Electrics are easier to play, but more expensive to set up and they let you get away with bad habits due to amplification (for instance, not pressing hard enough on a string).
 
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You should be able to get a serviceable guitar for ~$150 ish.

If you have short fingers, a narrower neck may be useful. (A lot of electic guitars have narrower necks too, so if you plan on switching back and forth, keep it consistent.) Wider necks = more space between strings = helpful for fatter fingers.

Your hand will cramp up like the dickens. I give you a week.
 

sze5003

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Did you pick one out yet? My buddy got one off Craigslist for $50. Not sure of the brand but it sounds good and seems to do the job.

I used to mess with my roommates electric guitar in college but since then I haven't touched one. I've been looking on Craigslist to see if I want to buy one and try it out with rocksmith.

Of course you will need a pickup too and a decent one will run you about $60 from Amazon.
 

msi1337

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I have been playing for 28 years and I picked up my first acoustic in a long time. I got the Yamaha FG700s. It plays like a dream, sounds perfect, and has very nice action. I have been very impressed with the quality for the price.
 

gorcorps

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My first guitar was an Ovation You DO have to worry about the binding around the body separating from the plastic/wood having different expansion rates. Truthfully though, of the half dozen acoustics I've owned, I never had one crack on me.

Also, there's debate over the "best" type of first guitar. I like starting with an acoustic because you have to play correctly for it to sound good, plus it builds finger strength. Electrics are easier to play, but more expensive to set up and they let you get away with bad habits due to amplification (for instance, not pressing hard enough on a string).

I know what you mean, and you have a point. For me though, if I recommend something as a hobbyist then the point is to have fun... and for me the ease of learning an electric makes it more enjoyable in a shorter amount of time. Then if somebody really gets into it they can give an acoustic a go. The steeper learning curve of the acoustic IMO leads to more people giving up early. But it's all opinion, and depends on each person's dedication and desire to learn.

There's even more variation in fret pressure than some realize too. I have a schecter, which has jumbo frets. They're so large that if you press too hard you'll distort the note. It's designed for a light touch, so you need to press hard enough to get the note you need (barely touching the fret board), but not so hard that the string is deflected around the fret wire too much. So somebody used to playing with the high pressure of an acoustic might have to get used to a jumbo fret electric.
 

nakedfrog

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My Yamaha electric is that way, ginormous frets. And when I got it, I was mostly playing my Ovation and 12 string... so a bit of adjustment, yes.
 

DigDog

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as someone who has played semi-professionally (taking lessons, going to music school, etc), i recommend the budding guitar player to bite the bullet and buy right away a top-class guitar. every guitar is different, be it neck shape + size, weight distribution, strings pull and action, tone -> palming, and you really want to invest as much of your time on the final instrument rather than go through bad instruments that you develop habits for which you later have to forget.

as for acoustic guitars, they are even more expensive at the high end. ask yourself if you are going to need it for its acoustic sound, or for its recording sound, theya re different. will you be using the guitar unplugged, or will you be micing it up/plugging it in (some acoustics have piezos and other pickups systems)?

given that acoustics are much harder to play than electrics, because they require more strumming and picking strength, and the strings are much harder, various makes can differ enormously; for example, i favour Ovation, even though they have a reputation as mediocre guitars, because they are easy to play and already set up for micing.

because of these things, you would be looking at spending even more on a good acoustic.



think about that




did you think?
ok, if that's what you want, go ahead and buy one.

buying an acoustic is a long and painful process. you go on a toru of guitar centers and you try and try and try; it is said that, when buying houses, you should visit ten - yet the vast majority of people settle after three.

people are just made like that. you should not be like that, you should go and try enough acoustics until you hate it, then take a break and then finally decide.

guitars, like amps and cabinets, will likely last you for your whole life; is this really the time to save money?
also, old guitars tend to be worth even more than their original asking price, more so at the high end.
i wouldn't be shocked if a top notch acoustic ran you north of five grand.
 

Fritzo

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as someone who has played semi-professionally (taking lessons, going to music school, etc), i recommend the budding guitar player to bite the bullet and buy right away a top-class guitar. every guitar is different, be it neck shape + size, weight distribution, strings pull and action, tone -> palming, and you really want to invest as much of your time on the final instrument rather than go through bad instruments that you develop habits for which you later have to forget.

as for acoustic guitars, they are even more expensive at the high end. ask yourself if you are going to need it for its acoustic sound, or for its recording sound, theya re different. will you be using the guitar unplugged, or will you be micing it up/plugging it in (some acoustics have piezos and other pickups systems)?

given that acoustics are much harder to play than electrics, because they require more strumming and picking strength, and the strings are much harder, various makes can differ enormously; for example, i favour Ovation, even though they have a reputation as mediocre guitars, because they are easy to play and already set up for micing.

because of these things, you would be looking at spending even more on a good acoustic.



think about that




did you think?
ok, if that's what you want, go ahead and buy one.

buying an acoustic is a long and painful process. you go on a toru of guitar centers and you try and try and try; it is said that, when buying houses, you should visit ten - yet the vast majority of people settle after three.

people are just made like that. you should not be like that, you should go and try enough acoustics until you hate it, then take a break and then finally decide.

guitars, like amps and cabinets, will likely last you for your whole life; is this really the time to save money?
also, old guitars tend to be worth even more than their original asking price, more so at the high end.
i wouldn't be shocked if a top notch acoustic ran you north of five grand.

I agree with buying a mid-higher end guitar. They're easier to play, and you'll most likely get most/all of your money back when you go to sell it.

Hell, I bought a Martin D-15 back in 2006 for $799, and they're selling for that much on EBay now.
 

nakedfrog

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as someone who has played semi-professionally (taking lessons, going to music school, etc), i recommend the budding guitar player to bite the bullet and buy right away a top-class guitar. every guitar is different, be it neck shape + size, weight distribution, strings pull and action, tone -> palming, and you really want to invest as much of your time on the final instrument rather than go through bad instruments that you develop habits for which you later have to forget.

as for acoustic guitars, they are even more expensive at the high end. ask yourself if you are going to need it for its acoustic sound, or for its recording sound, theya re different. will you be using the guitar unplugged, or will you be micing it up/plugging it in (some acoustics have piezos and other pickups systems)?

given that acoustics are much harder to play than electrics, because they require more strumming and picking strength, and the strings are much harder, various makes can differ enormously; for example, i favour Ovation, even though they have a reputation as mediocre guitars, because they are easy to play and already set up for micing.

because of these things, you would be looking at spending even more on a good acoustic.



think about that




did you think?
ok, if that's what you want, go ahead and buy one.

buying an acoustic is a long and painful process. you go on a toru of guitar centers and you try and try and try; it is said that, when buying houses, you should visit ten - yet the vast majority of people settle after three.

people are just made like that. you should not be like that, you should go and try enough acoustics until you hate it, then take a break and then finally decide.

guitars, like amps and cabinets, will likely last you for your whole life; is this really the time to save money?
also, old guitars tend to be worth even more than their original asking price, more so at the high end.
i wouldn't be shocked if a top notch acoustic ran you north of five grand.
The problem here is that as a budding guitarist, you don't know what you want. You don't know what neck shape you like the most, you don't know what nut width you prefer, or string spacing, or what tonewoods you like, or what body shape suits you... so I say it absolutely does NOT make sense to buy a top-of-the-line model. You should buy a good one, so yeah, you'd be better served to spend $500-1,000 versus $200.
I'd say $2k+ will generally get you an excellent guitar, but for production guitars they mostly top out before you get to $5k. You can spend more than that on a Froggy Bottom or what-have-you if you really like.
 
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$400-$500 bucks but if you decide to get serious the taylor mini series are great guitars. i have one that has a pickup and gig with it. it has a huge sound to it for it's size. keep it right by the couch or anywhere i spend time in case i want to grab her up and pick.
 

nakedfrog

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i said it, he needs to try them first, to see what he likes.
I don't think you can know what you like until you're already an accomplished guitar player. You can know what's more comfortable to play, yes. Guitar noobies generally can't distinguish that much sonic difference between instruments.
"Yeah, it sounds like a guitar."
 

nakedfrog

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$400-$500 bucks but if you decide to get serious the taylor mini series are great guitars. i have one that has a pickup and gig with it. it has a huge sound to it for it's size. keep it right by the couch or anywhere i spend time in case i want to grab her up and pick.
I've heard overwhelmingly positive things about the GS Minis, even from people with very nice guitars at their disposal.
 
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