Hearthstone

[desura]

I've gotten pretty cynical with the game. As in, I want to maximize gold for the least amount of effort. Which is stupid. This is a game. It isn't meant to be work, but fun.

Yesterday I managed to get 130 gold in about 30 minutes of time. I guess it would be more efficient to work at a job and then use the money to buy packs, but...

Naxxramus didn't impress me so I didn't bother with buying it. THe cards don't impress me either. I'm waiting for hte next expansion. I'll probably stop farming once I get Ysera and actually start playing for real fun.

 

[HumblePie]

So here was my arena draft tonight. Go to pick mage again. This time I stuck strictly by the "rules" of picking for arena according to various post naxx updated tier lists. Here is the vid. Little longer as I was looking up choices and debating what to pick based off what I had, the ranking of the card, and my mana curve

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwPFSR_B1I4&feature=youtu.be

Overall it was better offerings than the previous mage deck. I would say this would be an "average" arena deck and the offerings were above average for what I get.

Don't you just LOVE my first offering though? Actually, that tends to be the bullshit I normally get all the time.

I'll let you guys guess how well I did with the deck. Which I recorded the final score to upload later. I tried recording the games, but it was killing my harddrive space on this laptop.

 

[EDUSAN]

i started recording my decks and my winnings and rewards in arenavalue

download the client ... its actually quite great!

what i hate about arenas is that i feel that if i dont pick mage everytime im offered to play it im handicapping myself. I would love to actually play varied heroes but when i play warlock and i lose to a mage im like "i should have chosen the mage"

 

[Rhezuss]

My Warrior deck seem to work well enough to persevere with it and learn it more. I've had great synergies, thanks to good drawing, in my yesterday's games. It was a lot of fun (finally) to be able to do something and counter my opponents.

Here's the "final" deck:

2x Whirlwind (1)
2x Shield Slam (1)
2x Execute (1)
1x Cleave (2)
2x Armorsmith (2)
2x Cruel Taskmaster (2)
2x Fiery War Axe (2)
2x Shield Block (3)
2x Acolyte of Pain (3)
2x Spellbreaker (4)
2x Death's Bite (4)
1x Brawl (5)
2x Sludge Belcher (5)
1x Harrison Jones* (5)
1x Loatheb* (5)
1x Sylvanas Windrunner* (6)
1x The Black Knight* (6)
1x Grommash Hellscream* (8)
1x Ysera* (9)

Mana curve:

Cost 1: 6
Cost 2: 7
Cost 3: 4
Cost 4: 4
Cost 5: 5
Cost 6: 2
Cost 7+: 2

I got lucky with Ysera yesterday and that renewed my fun with this legendary. Got 2 Nightmare cards back to back that I used on Grommash + a late Cruel Taskmaster. Grommash was then a 20 attack dude with charge. that just felt right

Pretty satisfied with the deck right now. It's fun to play and have enough tools to counter most plays, but I have to be careful not to play too much stuff in a turn and must be a lot less careless. It's satisfying as hell!

 

[HumblePie]

i started recording my decks and my winnings and rewards in arenavalue

download the client ... its actually quite great!

what i hate about arenas is that i feel that if i dont pick mage everytime im offered to play it im handicapping myself. I would love to actually play varied heroes but when i play warlock and i lose to a mage im like "i should have chosen the mage"

Yah, mage inherently has the better standalone class cards that require zero combos to pull off and do well. Which is why the mage is best for arena because getting combos are not always a given in arena decks. Although I've seen some people have done that make me scratch my head in wonder at how some people pulled off getting their arena decks.

So want to hear something completely stupid? The last game I lost with that arena draft deck I posted in my youtube link above was to a hunter deck. Early rush and then nothing but Savannah Highmane drops. I mean NOTHING BUT for 6 turns until I was beat down by them. yes that hunter had effing 6 of them, all in his hand, at the very least. Wish I had the recording going for that one.

 

[Aikouka]

I'll let you guys guess how well I did with the deck. Which I recorded the final score to upload later. I tried recording the games, but it was killing my harddrive space on this laptop.

Why not just record stuff on an arena statistics website?

 

[Rhezuss]

I also LOVED the Sylvanas + Brawl combo, especially when your opponent has lots of minions on the board and you only have Sylvanas. Didn't knew it would end up that way until yesterday when I used a Brawl when I had Sylvanas VS my opponent 5 minions. Ended up getting an Auchenai soulpriest in the process

Never really used Sylvanas befoer but now I see her worth. Great midgame minion!

 

[Fallen Kell]

I have to admit that this game has started to really get out of hand in terms of what cards you need to be competitive anymore. There are a few exceptions, but for the most part, any higher tier player is going to have 6-7 legendaries in their deck (not including the ones from the expansion that everyone has access to for a couple hundred gold vs the 3-4000 gold you need to spend in card packs to get them). The entry point for high level competitive play is now something like 24,000 gold, which at the rate of free player daily earners is about 400 days!

 

[EDUSAN]

well...i think that hearthstone is not f2p for competitive playing

its f2p to casually play some ladder, get maybe to legend...but if you want to go really highier you will need to invest

 

[darkewaffle]

*cough nonlegendaryleague cough*

A lot of them aren't bad. Stuff like Harrison Jones and Bloodmage Thalnos and Captain Greenskin are fun, high value/situationally strong cards. Even Sylvanas and Cairne and most of the class specific legendaries I can live with - they have unique properties that generally aren't gamebreaking.

But I hate Ysera and Rag and TBK and Kelthuzad and Alexstraza and Jaraxxus and the like. Those cards that are game changing as soon as you lay them down and just have these insanely strong effects - I think they're pretty over the top. I don't mind that they're expensive/hard to obtain, I mind that they're just so absurdly powerful. Really the only legendaries I use regularly are Cairne and Loatheb (another one that I do think is well done) and I don't even enjoy playing Cairne. If I thoughtsteal one (I've gotten rag/KT/Alex lately lol) I try to win without playing them lol, they're just that ridiculous and un-fun to me.

 

[Rhezuss]

There are few cases of Legend players that got there without spending a dime. Gold farming and getting packs here and there will surely help but I agree that at some point, if your goal is to get in the high tier ranks you'll have to shell out real money.

But there's skill too and even though I could buy hundreds of packs tonight, I won't get near Rank 1 ever lol.

But like Fallen said, for some laddering fun there's no need to spend money on the game.

 

[HumblePie]

I have to admit that this game has started to really get out of hand in terms of what cards you need to be competitive anymore. There are a few exceptions, but for the most part, any higher tier player is going to have 6-7 legendaries in their deck (not including the ones from the expansion that everyone has access to for a couple hundred gold vs the 3-4000 gold you need to spend in card packs to get them). The entry point for high level competitive play is now something like 24,000 gold, which at the rate of free player daily earners is about 400 days!

You are just now noticing that? LOL!!!!

I have only 2 legendaries in my collection. I had 3 ish, but disenchanted two to pick up one. I had the free crappy gold foil Melkator inventor dude. I also had that Noz dragon which shortens play time. Both were worthless. I do have Tirion for the paladin I got in an open pack, and I crafted Rag.

That's it. I only now have Rag and Tirion. I use a mage deck and I have gotten to rank 11 before with it. I can't go beyond that because everything I ever play against is stacked with legendaries (has been for a long time) with a retarded combos. I can beat them with the right lucky draw with my mage deck, but it's about a 1 in 4 chance now. If the deck I'm up against his a good draw, which seems to be the case more often than not, I am clobbered.

Edit take that back, since beating Naxx I do have the naxx legendaries now. forgot about those since I haven't really haven't played with them in decks yet because my other decks mostly suck due to lack of cards for them.

 

[Fallen Kell]

You are just now noticing that? LOL!!!!

Well, it only really got that bad in the last week or two to be honest (at least for me and my decks). I have a couple of the good legendaries, and a decent collection of the rares/ultra rares (almost all of them to be honest just missing one sea giant, and a couple of the minions that I personally never use like the ones that give mana crystals to the opponent, or make your future minions cost more mana).

But now, I don't think there is a competitive deck out there that doesn't have at least the black knight, alexstra, rag, and the class legendary, with a couple of the Naxx legendaries thrown in, along with ones that then combo with the rest of their deck.

And I also think they have tweaked the drop rate for legendary cards lately (lowering it a lot). I mean, with as many packs as I have opened since Naxx, I have not received a single new legendary, whereas in the same time before Naxx, I think I had received 2-3 (useless ones, but converted 2 into a useful one).

 

[HumblePie]

Well, it only really got that bad in the last week or two to be honest (at least for me and my decks). I have a couple of the good legendaries, and a decent collection of the rares/ultra rares (almost all of them to be honest just missing one sea giant, and a couple of the minions that I personally never use like the ones that give mana crystals to the opponent, or make your future minions cost more mana).

But now, I don't think there is a competitive deck out there that doesn't have at least the black knight, alexstra, rag, and the class legendary, with a couple of the Naxx legendaries thrown in, along with ones that then combo with the rest of their deck.

And I also think they have tweaked the drop rate for legendary cards lately (lowering it a lot). I mean, with as many packs as I have opened since Naxx, I have not received a single new legendary, whereas in the same time before Naxx, I think I had received 2-3 (useless ones, but converted 2 into a useful one).

Only ever pulled 2 legendaries. Tirion and Noz. That was in about 50 or 60 packs or so opened. I only pulled like 3 epics as well. Most of what I get is the same shitty rares like mana addict and mana wraith. I've pulled those sooo many times it makes my head hurt looking at them. However, I pulled my first angry chicken last night from the pack I got from my arena run in the youtube vid above. So a completely new shitty rare to pull for me. Gives me a warm fuzzy for this game.

I play a mostly common only mage deck with Rag tossed in, or a mostly common Priest deck with rag, and the stagg bros tossed in from naxx. Those are basically the decks I win most with at around 50% win rate usually. I can win with my other decks, but it is like pulling teeth. They just don't do as well with common only as the mage/priest can. Although the warrior is okay and the rogue is ok too. The shaman deck I have is a bit better since I was able to actually make use of several of the Naxx specific cards for that deck.

 

[Vivendi]

So after the 2nd or 3rd naxx wing, I was quite disappointed with the single player to be honest and took a break from hearthstone for a couple of months. Yesterday I bought the rest of the wings and finished everything besides a few heroic bosses.

Besides the Naxx cards I now have, the only legendary I have is Cairne so I decided to make a deathrattle priest deck which has worked pretty well for me (so far). I managed to get to level 11 from level 20 in only 2 hours of playing.

I'm encountering lots of decks with 3+ legendaries (besides the naxx ones) and need help dealing with them better. Especially decks which usually have Sylvanas, Ysera and Ragnaros.

So this is the deck I made today:
Power word: Shield X2
Northshire Cleric X2
Shadow Word: Death X2
Thoughtsteal X2
Dark Cultist X2
Shadow Madness X1 ( only have 1)
Holy Nova X2
Cabal Shadow Priest X1 ( only have 1)

Undertaker X2
Zombie Chow X2
Loot Hoarder X2
Deathlord X1
Harvest Golem X1
Questing Adventurer X1
Defender of Argus X2
Sludge Belcher X2
Cairne Bloodhoof X1
Maexxna X1
Kel'Thuzad X1

Some of the cards I like and have: Big game hunters, argent commander, kodo, mind control tech, light spawn, lightwell, holy fire, temple enforcer.


Please suggest improvements to this deck... or should I just scrap it and use another hero to get to higher levels?

 

[HumblePie]

So after the 2nd or 3rd naxx wing, I was quite disappointed with the single player to be honest and took a break from hearthstone for a couple of months. Yesterday I bought the rest of the wings and finished everything besides a few heroic bosses.

Besides the Naxx cards I now have, the only legendary I have is Cairne so I decided to make a deathrattle priest deck which has worked pretty well for me (so far). I managed to get to level 11 from level 20 in only 2 hours of playing.

I'm encountering lots of decks with 3+ legendaries (besides the naxx ones) and need help dealing with them better. Especially decks which usually have Sylvanas, Ysera and Ragnaros.

So this is the deck I made today:
Power word: Shield X2
Northshire Cleric X2
Shadow Word: Death X2
Thoughtsteal X2
Dark Cultist X2
Shadow Madness X1 ( only have 1)
Holy Nova X2
Cabal Shadow Priest X1 ( only have 1)

Undertaker X2
Zombie Chow X2
Loot Hoarder X2
Deathlord X1
Harvest Golem X1
Questing Adventurer X1
Defender of Argus X2
Sludge Belcher X2
Cairne Bloodhoof X1
Maexxna X1
Kel'Thuzad X1

Some of the cards I like and have: Big game hunters, argent commander, kodo, mind control tech, light spawn, lightwell, holy fire, temple enforcer.


Please suggest improvements to this deck... or should I just scrap it and use another hero to get to higher levels?

If you have the Naxx legendaries, then a shaman deck works pretty well with them

2x haunted creeper
2x nerub egg
2x undertaker
Fuegen and Stalag
Kel'Thuzad
Baron Rivendaire (optional)
2x reincarnate

That should be the basis for the deck. Then fill in what you can. Any of the other good shaman cards will all work well and do wonders. Things such as flametongue totem, bloodlust, lightning storm, lightning bolt, forked lightning, lava burst, feral wolves, earthshock, hex, flame elemental, mana tide totem, weapons, and others all work well. Add in a few other cards possibly like sludge belcher, or some cheaper deathrattle or cards like abusive sarge and you'll be set.

With the right rotation it is a hard deck to beat even from the get go. Not the best deck out there, but one that has a good chance of winning with mostly Naxx cards due to the synergy of most of them with reincarnate.

 

[Fallen Kell]

If you have the Naxx legendaries, then a shaman deck works pretty well with them

2x haunted creeper
2x nerub egg
2x undertaker
Fuegen and Stalag
Kel'Thuzad
Baron Rivendaire (optional)
2x reincarnate

That should be the basis for the deck. Then fill in what you can. Any of the other good shaman cards will all work well and do wonders. Things such as flametongue totem, bloodlust, lightning storm, lightning bolt, forked lightning, lava burst, feral wolves, earthshock, hex, flame elemental, mana tide totem, weapons, and others all work well. Add in a few other cards possibly like sludge belcher, or some cheaper deathrattle or cards like abusive sarge and you'll be set.

With the right rotation it is a hard deck to beat even from the get go. Not the best deck out there, but one that has a good chance of winning with mostly Naxx cards due to the synergy of most of them with reincarnate.

Add in Ancestral Spirit spells for more fun. Nothing like plopping down KT and putting Ancestral Spirit on him. If the opponent doesn't have a silence or some kind of transformation spell (frog/sheep), it can be very difficult to kill 2 KTs in the same round (and if they underestimate their chance to kill KT two times, you wind up having 2 KTs on the board since the second one will reincarnate the one that died ealier in the round).

Spend the dust and get some faceless manips to add to this deck, add a couple good 2-4 mana minions, a sea giant or 2 and you have a very difficult deck to beat.

 

[Vivendi]

Thanks guys. I'll try the Shaman deck. It looks fun too.

I've been playing using Priest too much anyways (because I like messing with people using their own cards ).

 

[Kev]

I have to admit that this game has started to really get out of hand in terms of what cards you need to be competitive anymore. There are a few exceptions, but for the most part, any higher tier player is going to have 6-7 legendaries in their deck (not including the ones from the expansion that everyone has access to for a couple hundred gold vs the 3-4000 gold you need to spend in card packs to get them). The entry point for high level competitive play is now something like 24,000 gold, which at the rate of free player daily earners is about 400 days!

How to legend:

1) Choose Hunter
2) Add Undertaker
3) Search "deathrattle"
4) Fill deck

 

[Kev]

So after the 2nd or 3rd naxx wing, I was quite disappointed with the single player to be honest and took a break from hearthstone for a couple of months. Yesterday I bought the rest of the wings and finished everything besides a few heroic bosses.

Besides the Naxx cards I now have, the only legendary I have is Cairne so I decided to make a deathrattle priest deck which has worked pretty well for me (so far). I managed to get to level 11 from level 20 in only 2 hours of playing.

I'm encountering lots of decks with 3+ legendaries (besides the naxx ones) and need help dealing with them better. Especially decks which usually have Sylvanas, Ysera and Ragnaros.

So this is the deck I made today:
Power word: Shield X2
Northshire Cleric X2
Shadow Word: Death X2
Thoughtsteal X2
Dark Cultist X2
Shadow Madness X1 ( only have 1)
Holy Nova X2
Cabal Shadow Priest X1 ( only have 1)

Undertaker X2
Zombie Chow X2
Loot Hoarder X2
Deathlord X1
Harvest Golem X1
Questing Adventurer X1
Defender of Argus X2
Sludge Belcher X2
Cairne Bloodhoof X1
Maexxna X1
Kel'Thuzad X1

Some of the cards I like and have: Big game hunters, argent commander, kodo, mind control tech, light spawn, lightwell, holy fire, temple enforcer.


Please suggest improvements to this deck... or should I just scrap it and use another hero to get to higher levels?

I would take out deathlord - this deck is already weak to control decks with larger minions. Deathlord just makes it worse.

 

[Firsttime]

Well, it only really got that bad in the last week or two to be honest (at least for me and my decks). I have a couple of the good legendaries, and a decent collection of the rares/ultra rares (almost all of them to be honest just missing one sea giant, and a couple of the minions that I personally never use like the ones that give mana crystals to the opponent, or make your future minions cost more mana).

But now, I don't think there is a competitive deck out there that doesn't have at least the black knight, alexstra, rag, and the class legendary, with a couple of the Naxx legendaries thrown in, along with ones that then combo with the rest of their deck.

And I also think they have tweaked the drop rate for legendary cards lately (lowering it a lot). I mean, with as many packs as I have opened since Naxx, I have not received a single new legendary, whereas in the same time before Naxx, I think I had received 2-3 (useless ones, but converted 2 into a useful one).

I'm not sure I buy this. There are tons of competitive decks that only use a few high end cards. Legend caliber Zoo and Hunter decks can be crafted from scratch for under 1500 dust. There are Priest and Mage decks that have ~2 legendaries in them. Rogue gets by with just Thalnos and Lotheb now. Shaman and Druid aren't legendary heavy, although their epics are required. It's pretty much just Warrior, Pally, and Handlock decks that use 10k+ dust. I mean I guess you could make the argument that a lot of the decks use different ones so it's hard to have enough to play all the decks. But even then there are a few that translate really well into several decks.

I've been pretty lucky with packs lately, but the legendary drop rate still looks like ~5% for me. Although this weekend I opened 15 packs and got 4 legendaries, 3 epics, and 5 golds which I wasn't complaining about haha.

 

[Aikouka]

Speaking of Priest decks, I had a rather fun game with one of mine recently. There were a few points during the match where I was scratching my head trying to figure out which move was the most effective. If I remember correctly, I dropped Loatheb, and then he dropped a Loatheb after that. I didn't really have an effective maneuver. I mean... I could've tossed down an Auchenai Soul Priest and used my hero power to effectively turn Loatheb into a 5/3, which makes him trade evenly... but who wants to trade an Auchenai that soon? Nobody! So, I used an 8-cost Shadow Word: Death to kill it instead.

The next turn was an interesting one as well. In response to killing off Loatheb, he dropped two Harvest Golems. I believe I already had a Northshire Cleric on the board, so I killed the one Golem with Loatheb, damaged the other one with the Cleric, put down an Injured Battlemaster, and used Holy Nova. So, it killed off the Damaged Golem, and killed the remaining Harvest Golem while healing the attacking minions back to full and the Injured Blademaster to 4/5. If I remember correctly, he made somewhat of a desperation play by using a 1/4 Silverback Patriarch, but since he was at 11 health with 1 armor, that's enough to stop me from killing him! However, what he didn't expect was that I would make a play that was nothing short of legendary!!

I proceeded to drop an Auchenai Soulpriest, a Zombie Chow and followed it up with a Circle of not-so-Healing. The reverse Circle of Healing killed off his Silverback Patriarch, my Northshire Cleric, and Zombie Chow, but that's exactly what I wanted. So, I just removed his taunt and dealt 5 damage to him through the Zombie Chow, which put him at 7. Since he was down to 7, I took him out with the combined 9 damage from Loatheb and the Injured Blademaster.

 

[Udgnim]

Naxx Mage Secret deck is fun and doesn't require too many legendaries

think the one I play with has Kel'Thuzad and Bloodmage Thalnos and probably Loatheb

 

[Firsttime]

I proceeded to drop an Auchenai Soulpriest, a Zombie Chow and followed it up with a Circle of not-so-Healing. The reverse Circle of Healing killed off his Silverback Patriarch, my Northshire Cleric, and Zombie Chow, but that's exactly what I wanted. So, I just removed his taunt and dealt 5 damage to him through the Zombie Chow, which put him at 7. Since he was down to 7, I took him out with the combined 9 damage from Loatheb and the Injured Blademaster.

Auchenai interactions are fun. I MC tech'd one yesterday as Pally and holy lighted the priest to the face for the kill. Felt pretty satisfying.

 

[HumblePie]

Auchenai interactions are fun. I MC tech'd one yesterday as Pally and holy lighted the priest to the face for the kill. Felt pretty satisfying.

stealing is just wrong!

But ohh so funny when you do it.

Had a decent druid deck last night for arena. Went 5/3 on it. One of the ones I won I was down to 11 hp against a full life warrior with 10 armor. We both had about 3 minions on the board at that moment when he put down a sea giant. I stole with with MC and cloned it with a faceless manip and use some innervates to pop down a frostwolf warlord onto a full board. He immediately emoted well played and conceded because he had no cards left in his hand and I still had a decent amount. His remaining board couldn't stop what I just did either. Yah it was funny.