Hearthstone

[Rhezuss]

Best run i've had in Arena last night lol...3-3
With a Rogue (my class choice was Rogue, Warlock, Priest)
First time I played a Rogue in arena, fun class and good in this mode.

Didn't have lots of cool cards but enough to have tools to counter my opponent every turn.

I also in love again with the Paladin in constructed. Shielded Minibot, Coghammer, Muster for Battle, Quartermaster...can't complain.

My last evening in constructed I gone from Rank 22 to Rank 16 in no time. Loing it.

But i'm still struggling with the Warrior. I want to get better with the class but I have a hard time being good with it. But with the new cards, i'm gonna try more seriously with this class. Love Iron Juggernaut and will try to build a deck around this legendary.

 

[Udgnim]

But i'm still struggling with the Warrior. I want to get better with the class but I have a hard time being good with it. But with the new cards, i'm gonna try more seriously with this class. Love Iron Juggernaut and will try to build a deck around this legendary.

only solid Warrior deck in constructed is Control and that requires a whole lot of Legendaries

 

[Fallen Kell]

I am seriously thinking of crafting the epic 3/3 mech that adds divine shield, windfury, or taunt at random to all your other minions on the board. That combined with a zerg deck can be just devistating. But it is a toss up between that card and the mage's spell that gives duplicate cards for all your minions on the board...

 

[Rhezuss]

I am seriously thinking of crafting the epic 3/3 mech that adds divine shield, windfury, or taunt at random to all your other minions on the board. That combined with a zerg deck can be just devistating. But it is a toss up between that card and the mage's spell that gives duplicate cards for all your minions on the board...

Enhance-o Mechano? It's one of the most awesome cards in the whole game. I have 2 in my paladin deck and probably will put 2 in my Warrior deck. Not awesome on it's own but damn amazing coupled with say, Muster for Battle + Avenge or with any decks that run lots of minions.

Really a great card.

I also like the synergy with Enhance-o Mechano and the Coghammer!

 

[Rhezuss]

only solid Warrior deck in constructed is Control and that requires a whole lot of Legendaries

I have lots of legendaries, almost everyone of them. But it's more about my experience with the class and it's playstyle.

 

[Firsttime]

only solid Warrior deck in constructed is Control and that requires a whole lot of Legendaries

I don't think that's entirely true. I'm pretty sure you could play Math Warrior or Face Warrior up through the ranks too. That said Control Warrior is the best Warrior, it has so many even or winning matchups against classes other control decks get shit on by.

 

[ImpulsE69]

Uninstalled. I played many games, and probably 80% of them as a low level person the ppl I played against had decks almost compeltely legendary and rare cards. And the worst part is they do dumb crap to show off like making you wait every turn full time while they throw 5 cards and do 15 damage to make them think they good or something. It's just way too P2W for me. Even bad people can win when their level 1 cards do 3x as much as your basic lvl 5 cards.

 

[Firsttime]

I had to do some Warlock games yesterday for a quest so I made a Warlock Zoo deck with 0 legedaries or epics and only like ~4 rares (not because I couldn't add a bunch of high cost cards, but because they'd ruin the deck, in the style game I wanted to play they are weak as fuck). I don't know how loaded my opponents hands were with legendaries because the games were almost always over by turn 6-7.

The real issue is you're probably playing against people who have a more thorough understanding of the game or who are netdecking to build decks with better synergy. Matchmaking in Casual is pretty weak.

 

[Fallen Kell]

I agree with this to an extent. There are still some decent decks that don't need many rare, epic, legendary cards to play and win with. Yes, there are a bunch of common cards that you would probably want/need to make the deck, but you will either get them after opening a couple packs (or craft them if you REALLY want them fast, since they only cost 20 dust).

Yes, warlock is probably still one of the best. With some of the new cards that came out, it has some very amazing combos that it can pull off. Add in one or two rares or epics (enhance-o-matic, or the 4/4 that gains +2/2 each round the hero takes damage), and maybe a doomguard or two and you have a deck that will stomp face against many other decks.

 

[lupi]

Got the 7/7 with shield as probably the best card in my 3 free packs. Still have 3 pack codes to enter, wonder if that will give me the new ones or the old ones.

 

[Vivendi]

Mage is so much more fun to play now with the new GvG cards, especially flame cannon, unstable portal and echo of medivh.

Echo of medivh...

 

[Fallen Kell]

Yeah, that spell is one that I really need to get. Combine it with the duplicate secret, and you really have the way to get a LOT of extra minions out of your deck.

 

[ImpulsE69]

Such a sucker. I load it back up. First game at rank 19: every card was gold - and 1 card was a 20 point card whatever the hell that was....ffs really? Why am I getting these kind of opponents at the bottom?

Next game was mostly gold/purple but I was holding my own with my basic cards - then he drops some thing that changed his champ to some demon thing doubled his health and gave him a bunch of power ups as well as the ability to generate 6/6 cards every move...just wrecked me...

How is this fun? Remember I'm at the bottom....it's just dumb. There should be some sort of limiter where people with a certain number of high end cards in their deck do not get placed below a certain level. In the real world (where cards are actually worth real money) you would never play someone like that. I stand by my P2W statement. I actually win the few games I have that are against people with somewhat similar scope decks, even a few that are obviously better...but for the most part I get these insane top end decks that just decimate.

Next game, same f'ing thing. Some guy with the damn fisherman, and a ton more supposedly 'hard to get' cards. If this is what the low level people have...hate to see what the high level people have....such a scam.

So frustrating, I'm probably done.

 

[Udgnim]

Such a sucker. I load it back up. First game at rank 19: every card was gold - and 1 card was a 20 point card whatever the hell that was....ffs really? Why am I getting these kind of opponents at the bottom?

Next game was mostly gold/purple but I was holding my own with my basic cards - then he drops some thing that changed his champ to some demon thing doubled his health and gave him a bunch of power ups as well as the ability to generate 6/6 cards every move...just wrecked me...

How is this fun? Remember I'm at the bottom....it's just dumb. There should be some sort of limiter where people with a certain number of high end cards in their deck do not get placed below a certain level. In the real world (where cards are actually worth real money) you would never play someone like that. I stand by my P2W statement. I actually win the few games I have that are against people with somewhat similar scope decks, even a few that are obviously better...but for the most part I get these insane top end decks that just decimate.

Next game, same f'ing thing. Some guy with the damn fisherman, and a ton more supposedly 'hard to get' cards. If this is what the low level people have...hate to see what the high level people have....such a scam.

So frustrating, I'm probably done.

if you don't like Arena and don't want to pay money to buy packs, you're not going to have much fun in Constructed as a new player

 

[ImpulsE69]

if you don't like Arena and don't want to pay money to buy packs, you're not going to have much fun in Constructed as a new player

Well I just realized you do get gold and can finish most quests by doing normal games. I didn't realize that before and had only been doing ranked. Normal games are much more level player to player than ranked is. That must have been what I was doing wrong. I'll do that for awhile. I guess maybe I wasn't doing TOO badly for being new in ranked then.

When I first started I didn't realize what arena was and blew that as soon as I had gotten all the chars. Woops.

Of course what you say above just validates that it is P2W. Obviously what it is based off of is the same thing, but again, we are being randomly placed in matches with people who we shouldn't be matched with. Just seems overly staged. It's not that I'm unwilling to pay any money, but due to the type of game it is, and the randomness of it (and can you trade/sell cards?) pouring money into it doesn't seem like a very valid step. Computer 'randomness' and ratios can be messed with by the company. It isn't very random when they can change the stats of any card at any time.

 

[Kev]

Well I just realized you do get gold and can finish most quests by doing normal games. I didn't realize that before and had only been doing ranked. Normal games are much more level player to player than ranked is. That must have been what I was doing wrong. I'll do that for awhile. I guess maybe I wasn't doing TOO badly for being new in ranked then.

When I first started I didn't realize what arena was and blew that as soon as I had gotten all the chars. Woops.

Of course what you say above just validates that it is P2W. Obviously what it is based off of is the same thing, but again, we are being randomly placed in matches with people who we shouldn't be matched with. Just seems overly staged. It's not that I'm unwilling to pay any money, but due to the type of game it is, and the randomness of it (and can you trade/sell cards?) pouring money into it doesn't seem like a very valid step.

There's going to be an upper limit of how high you can climb without buying packs or playing a ton. Sorry that's just the way it is. Blizzard doesn't have an obligation to give you a full game for free.

Computer 'randomness' and ratios can be messed with by the company. It isn't very random when they can change the stats of any card at any time.

Wat

 

[ImpulsE69]

There's going to be an upper limit of how high you can climb without buying packs or playing a ton. Sorry that's just the way it is. Blizzard doesn't have an obligation to give you a full game for free.

You missed the point entirely. I'm not asking for blizzard to give me cards or not to grind. In fact, the overwhelming majority of posts by new players on their forums says exactly the same thing.

Also overwhelmingly is the laughable advise that veteran players give regarding 'you can do it, see watch this guy'. Basically anyone who is just starting out is at a very bad disadvantage because the established players already have full decks and are playing the system to dust mine. This is why I'm seeing what I'm seeing at lvl 19-20 (as well as casual). It's not just me, it's a very large complaint in the community.

New players shouldn't be matched with people with full rare/epic/legendary decks. It needs fixed....until then I won't play it and I certainly won't spend a dime on it. Supposedly they are working on it, but to me it seems to go against their end game which is to get people to buy packs, however if new players are turned off in only a matter of days....that will eventually die out.

 

[HumblePie]

You missed the point entirely. I'm not asking for blizzard to give me cards or not to grind. In fact, the overwhelming majority of posts by new players on their forums says exactly the same thing.

Also overwhelmingly is the laughable advise that veteran players give regarding 'you can do it, see watch this guy'. Basically anyone who is just starting out is at a very bad disadvantage because the established players already have full decks and are playing the system to dust mine. This is why I'm seeing what I'm seeing at lvl 19-20 (as well as casual). It's not just me, it's a very large complaint in the community.

New players shouldn't be matched with people with full rare/epic/legendary decks. It needs fixed....until then I won't play it and I certainly won't spend a dime on it. Supposedly they are working on it, but to me it seems to go against their end game which is to get people to buy packs, however if new players are turned off in only a matter of days....that will eventually die out.

I haven't bought a single pack and I don't play a hell of a lot either. I did start a bit more when the game started, so I do have that going for me. So I do have more cards than you. But I don't have that many great cards at all. For example, I can't even make a good zoo-lock deck because I don't even own any knife jugglers. Which is one of the core cards to that deck. It's a rare and I could craft a couple, but I've been saving my dust for the bigger legendaries instead for now.

I still get by though with some mostly common card decks. Stick with casual games though as it tends to try to pit you against players with similar decks of the same power level as the one you are playing with. Not always though.

As a F2P player, it will take a long while to grind out enough gold for opening enough packs to slap together a halfway decent deck. More so early on because the cards you do have won't make a decent deck and you'll get mostly stomped over making it hard to complete quests for gold. I know it can be frustrating and is a big turn off for the average F2P player for the game. Then again, Bliz really doesn't care about F2P players with this game either so oh well. Otherwise they might do a better match up system.

 

[darkewaffle]

The "examples" of 'see watch this guy' are usually centered around creating decks with the basic cards (which everyone has/gets for free by just 'levelling' the classes), commons and minimal rares or above. Even if they have a ton of dust/gold that doesn't mean the deck itself is difficult to recreate.

Basically anyone just starting out is at a disadvantage because they don't know wtf they're doing more than anything else lol. Hell I've had friends struggle with the innkeeper.

 

[Kev]

You missed the point entirely. I'm not asking for blizzard to give me cards or not to grind. In fact, the overwhelming majority of posts by new players on their forums says exactly the same thing.

Also overwhelmingly is the laughable advise that veteran players give regarding 'you can do it, see watch this guy'. Basically anyone who is just starting out is at a very bad disadvantage because the established players already have full decks and are playing the system to dust mine. This is why I'm seeing what I'm seeing at lvl 19-20 (as well as casual). It's not just me, it's a very large complaint in the community.

New players shouldn't be matched with people with full rare/epic/legendary decks. It needs fixed....until then I won't play it and I certainly won't spend a dime on it. Supposedly they are working on it, but to me it seems to go against their end game which is to get people to buy packs, however if new players are turned off in only a matter of days....that will eventually die out.

Your problem isn't that people at rank 19-20 have amazing decks. Your problem is that you're new and therefore probably aren't very good yet. If people are still at rank 19 or 20, with gold decks and a bunch of epics/legendaries, they fucking suck.

 

[Firsttime]

The "examples" of 'see watch this guy' are usually centered around creating decks with the basic cards (which everyone has/gets for free by just 'levelling' the classes), commons and minimal rares or above. Even if they have a ton of dust/gold that doesn't mean the deck itself is difficult to recreate.

Basically anyone just starting out is at a disadvantage because they don't know wtf they're doing more than anything else lol. Hell I've had friends struggle with the innkeeper.

That's it. They see someone with Cairne and go "Wtf I just have this shitty Bolderfist Ogre for my 6 mana neutral creature, I can't beat that, his deck is CRAZY" Ignoring the fact that Cairne does trade with Ogre (Cairne attacks Ogre, deathrattle triggers and spawns a 4/5, Ogre is left as a 6/3, both have 9 stats). Cairne is situationally better then the Ogre sure, but is not strictly better then the Ogre, I would 100% rather have an Ogre on board to beat through a Sludge Beltcher then a Cairne. The reverse is also true, Cairne excels at controlling the board against those pesky 3/2 drops.

It's the HS equivalent of "team sucks, can't win"

 

[Firsttime]

Your problem isn't that people at rank 19-20 have amazing decks. Your problem is that you're new and therefore probably aren't very good yet. If people are still at rank 19 or 20, with gold decks and a bunch of epics/legendaries, they fucking suck.

In fairness there is an actual problem at rank 19-20 of people who know what they're doing insta-conceding games to stay low ranked to give them easy quests and portrait wins. But theoretically if you play enough you should get as many wins and losses from that.

 

[ImpulsE69]

While yes, I'm learning the game, I can tell the difference between someone with a few nice cards and someone with a stacked deck. It is pretty obvious, even in playstyle. Reading through their forums the dust/gold mining at the low levels by established players is well known and is an issue and is indeed causing a bit of chaos for new players and turning them off rather quickly.

Matchmaking ideally would be based off # of games played and/or tiered in some way (which is a bit more difficult because yes there are really good players out there that can do very well with low tier decks).

Those that have been playing the game for a long time do not realize this because when they started it wasn't as prevalent to have a full nice deck...and then for some reason they think it's because 'oh newbie'. Todays game isn't the same as yesterdays game, and it seems it is widely known. I imagine it curbs off a bit when new expansions have been out for some time and less people are trying to farm easy games.

 

[Aikouka]

I don't know if anyone else here buys cards, but this is probably the best deal that I've ever seen:

http://slickdeals.net/f/7523626-hea...acks-on-amazon-gets-you-2500-amazon-coins?v=1

You don't even need an Android device to do this as outlined in this post. This does require you to get the game through the Amazon App Store. You will also buy the Amazon Coins. To note, when you click the BUY button, it asks which currency you want to use.

EDIT:

Ah, nevermind... appears I'm a bit too late in posting this as it appears to be dead. You only get 10% bonus coins now instead of 50%.

 

[Rhezuss]

I'm sitting at 185/500 on my L51 Paladin...

Rank 16 right now...I aim quite better than this. I also plan to get the Golden class with the Paladin, would be quite a feat for me.

I'll also start playing more Druid and Warrior to change the pace of the game. I really like the Warrior even though I suck with the class and the Druid can be freaking awesome when played well.

But the Paladin will always have a special place in my hearth with it's new GvG cards.