Hearthstone

[lupi]

con stuff from intro

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=37816649&postcount=43

 

[Vivendi]

Blizz posted all the new cards on facebook

Kinda fast release but I guess they don't want to let people build up their gold reserves lol.

 

[waggy]

I'm 1 for 3 in the brawl. It's definitely very RNG based, but fun.

Im 2-10. so i can't complain but yes it is fun!

 

[wetech]

I'm a Priest vs Druid. I have a Mistress of Pain as a result of a Piloted Shredder deathrattle. Also on the board is an Auchenai Soulpriestess. I have 30 health. Mistress attacks opponent who has 1 health left. He goes to 0 health, and I lose 1 health from the Mistress trying to heal me. This effect continued to trigger 32 times, resulting in me going to -2 health and losing the match.

Looked on the bug forum, and this is correct behavior. Mistress does 1 dmg to me from Auchenai, tries to heal me again, rinse and repeat. Boooo.

 

[Vivendi]

I'm a Priest vs Druid. I have a Mistress of Pain as a result of a Piloted Shredder deathrattle. Also on the board is an Auchenai Soulpriestess. I have 30 health. Auchenai attacks opponent who has 1 health left. He goes to 0 health, and I lose 1 health from the Mistress trying to heal me. This effect continued to trigger 32 times, resulting in me going to -2 health and losing the match.

Looked on the bug forum, and this is correct behavior. Mistress does 1 dmg to me from Auchenai, tries to heal me again, rinse and repeat. Boooo.

Makes sense once you read the card descriptions. It's just one of those things you have to lose to once before you know to play around it in the future.

 

[CPA]

I'm a Priest vs Druid. I have a Mistress of Pain as a result of a Piloted Shredder deathrattle. Also on the board is an Auchenai Soulpriestess. I have 30 health. Auchenai attacks opponent who has 1 health left. He goes to 0 health, and I lose 1 health from the Mistress trying to heal me. This effect continued to trigger 32 times, resulting in me going to -2 health and losing the match.

Looked on the bug forum, and this is correct behavior. Mistress does 1 dmg to me from Auchenai, tries to heal me again, rinse and repeat. Boooo.

lol, what? that's hilarious.

 

[Aikouka]

lol, what? that's hilarious.

Yeah, I lost a game a while back at a Hearthstone gathering that way. I had no idea, but everyone else was like, "Duh, dude!" The worst part was that you had to sit there and wait for yourself to slowly die, but at least now you are able to concede.

 

[Madia]

Blizz posted all the new cards on facebook

Kinda fast release but I guess they don't want to let people build up their gold reserves lol.

Nothing pops out like an Emperor Thaurissan from the last expansion. Sacred Trial stands out with Mysterious Stranger but usually when an opponent is casting a 4th minion you're already in trouble. Raven Idol and Forgotten torch look good. Sir Finley Mrrgglton looks like a good addition to a murloc deck especially Shaman. Still, even with the new murlocs a murloc deck still seems like a fun gimmick deck rather than something competitive.

Overall to me the expansion looks average and I don't think it'll have any impact on the meta.

 

[techie81]

Blizz posted all the new cards on facebook

Kinda fast release but I guess they don't want to let people build up their gold reserves lol.

Good for me that I have 4k saved knowing they were going to come out with something soon.

 

[quikah]

(very)Small nerf to paladin I guess, the newly added Murlocs would be pretty crummy to get out of a Murloc knight.

Unearthed Raptor might be OK, though I can't think of any rogue deathrattle decks.

Is the Tunnel Trogg buff for that turn only? Could be good if it keeps stacking, guessing it works like mana wyrm.

Need to see how well the Discover mechanic works, could be good.

 

[Vivendi]

Zombie chow still a better 1 drop for shamans than Tunnel Trogg.

 

[Aikouka]

Ugh, decided to try the Brawl, and I got an AFK "opponent". Thankfully, conceding still gives you a card pack.

 

[lupi]

went 3-3. main issue is that people seem so intent on attacking when it would more often be much better having those 1 or 2 attack minions out there making the AI want to attack instead of powering up, and helping the randomizer select something other than your character with the attack.

 

[Kev]

Honestly, I think I'm just bored of the hearthstone "meta" right now. Maybe there'll be something announced at Blizzcon that'll be interesting. In any case, I still play the brawls every week, so far I've only missed it once.

Even when I used to make gimmicky decks, I'd still play them on ranked, horrible win% or not, just to see how high I could take the deck, as well as the golden portrait progress.

Currently, I'm just wasting gold from quests on packs instead of saving it. I would have 25k dust now if I disenchanted extra copies, another 15k dust if I get rid of goldens. Only way I'm spending that much dust is if I start crafting cards like The Beast.

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Thinking more about it, I feel like since I favour playing midrange/control decks and like to play for card advantage more than tempo; HS developers have continously released cards that punish players like me. There used to be time when aggro decks couldn't just mindlessly dump their hands without worrying about removal. But now minions are so sticky... it doesn't matter if I have a hellfire or consecrate or flamestrike in hand.
Hearthstone has become so fast and only about tempo and playing the bigger threat turn after turn. People no longer complain about Dr. Boom, either because the game's usually over by the time he comes into play or have become used to such unbalanced cards. And let's not forget about Mad Scientist and Shredder, even more unbalanced than Dr. Boom IMHO.
The game no longer awards players playing for card advantage. In fact aggro has cards like divine favour, mysterious challenger etc to punish people who play for card advantage, and encourages dumping your hand.

In a lot of games, I see my aggro deck opponents make a such an obvious bad play that it's amazing that they've actually gotten to rank 5. But before I can punish them for their mistakes, game's probably over. Mind you, it just might be a bot if it's secret paladin. Apparently secret paladin is so mindless to play that even bots have an above 50% winrate with it and are taking the deck to legend.

Anyone remember the days when playing priest meant your typical turn 2 was "healing" your opponent's face and emoting 'the light shall burn you'. Good luck doing that these days and actually winning the match. Miss a drop on any turn and aggro just destroys you.

OK rant over

This is basically why I haven't played in about 3 weeks. The game is hardcore pandering to idiots at this point. I can't stand losing to dummies who just play on curve and attack face.

 

[Fallen Kell]

I will start saving up my gold again for this new expansion, but I don't really see many useful cards (I guess it depends on how the new mechanic works).

In anycase, I have been having more and more good wins with my fatigue warrior, even besting out many of the face hunters and secret paladins (somewhat depends on my draw, but for the most part I am beating them, since most don't expect me to have another board clear after the second brawl is played, which is why I have Deathwing in the deck ).

 

[HumblePie]

I will start saving up my gold again for this new expansion, but I don't really see many useful cards (I guess it depends on how the new mechanic works).

In anycase, I have been having more and more good wins with my fatigue warrior, even besting out many of the face hunters and secret paladins (somewhat depends on my draw, but for the most part I am beating them, since most don't expect me to have another board clear after the second brawl is played, which is why I have Deathwing in the deck ).

The discover mechanic basically puts that card type into your hand. So it's basically a free card, but not a free casted card straight to the battlefield as Blizzard has done with so many other cards (*cough* piloted shredder and mad scientist).

 

[Fallen Kell]

You know what is funny, I just played my ramp druid deck again for the first time in a month or two (hasn't been updated since pre-TGT) and it still plays very well. There are obviously a couple cards I would possibly change out, but I won 5 out of 7 games with it (losses were to a mill rogue, and a facehunter). I think the mill rogue is really the only true threat to this deck since it has so many big mana cards in it that I simply can not play the 2+ cards in a turn to try and keep my hand empty and free enough for vanish'ed minions to not be killed.

 

[Fallen Kell]

Well this brawl is no different than the last time we had this matchup. Well, I guess technically the last time, Nefarian had all 10 mana, and this time he starts with just 4, but the outcome is no different. Nefarian has the much better deck and power and still wins easily.

 

[Fallen Kell]

Well with the new expansion, I have already crafted a new priest deck to take advantage. It is still a dragon/control priest deck, but the deck is setup to be able to use Reno Jackson (the new legendary that full heals your hero if you don't have any duplicate cards in your deck). Since the dragon priest deck has so many options for cards, it is very easy to simply not have any duplicates. Add in a couple extra healing cards (like Justicar Trueheart, or flash heal, or heal bot), and the combination of cards should let you outlast even some of the best rush decks out there before you can take over board control by getting through their bust damage spells and abilities.

 

[darkewaffle]

My friend put Reno into his control warrior as well. Keep in mind that it works based off of what is currently in your deck and not what your complete deck contains. So if you have two of a given card in your deck but have already drawn one of them it will not prevent Reno from working. As such he's keeping two of important cards like Execute/Shield Slam/etc.

 

[lupi]

Well this brawl is no different than the last time we had this matchup. Well, I guess technically the last time, Nefarian had all 10 mana, and this time he starts with just 4, but the outcome is no different. Nefarian has the much better deck and power and still wins easily.

Played two games last night, rag was 2-0.

 

[Aikouka]

Played two games last night, rag was 2-0.

I lost as Nefarian the first time (Rag had far better cards at the end game), and I got Nefarian again the second time. However, my opponent gave up immediately the second game, so I got a free win! :awe:

 

[CPA]

My friend put Reno into his control warrior as well. Keep in mind that it works based off of what is currently in your deck and not what your complete deck contains. So if you have two of a given card in your deck but have already drawn one of them it will not prevent Reno from working. As such he's keeping two of important cards like Execute/Shield Slam/etc.

That's been confirmed in actual gameplay?

 

[darkewaffle]

Yeah. I actually had Reno in an Arena run the other day and only 2x of a single card (the 3/5 Trog) in the entire deck. So as long as I had drawn at least one of the trogs into my hand then Reno would work.

 

[Vivendi]

Played two games last night, rag was 2-0.

Rag was definitely favoured in this one. That one mana crystal less at start for Nefarian (4 mana instead of 5) made a huge impact, enough that I only lost a single game as Rag out of around 10 played. With Nefarian, I lost more than half. Nefarian can't reliably rush down Rag anymore, before Rag takes the board.