Helene misinformation hindering recovery efforts

[Fenixgoon]

A cousin of mine reposted false information regarding FEMA assistance on Facebook. Thankfully one of his friends called his BS out and linked to actual facts. I'm not sure that changed my cousin's mind at all.

Apparently the misinformation is common enough that FEMA issued a press release

FEMA Launches Web Page to Respond to Rumors and Confirm the Facts Related to Hurricane Helene Response and Recovery

After a disaster, rumors and misunderstandings can spread rapidly through traditional and social media and via word of mouth by friends, neighbors and colleagues. False or misleading information can harm survivors by causing confusion and preventing people from getting the help they need.

www.fema.gov

The bullshit asymmetry principle is alive and well, sadly.

 

[APU_Fusion]

A cousin of mine reposted false information regarding FEMA assistance on Facebook. Thankfully one of his friends called his BS out and linked to actual facts. I'm not sure that changed my cousin's mind at all.

Apparently the misinformation is common enough that FEMA issued a press release

FEMA Launches Web Page to Respond to Rumors and Confirm the Facts Related to Hurricane Helene Response and Recovery

After a disaster, rumors and misunderstandings can spread rapidly through traditional and social media and via word of mouth by friends, neighbors and colleagues. False or misleading information can harm survivors by causing confusion and preventing people from getting the help they need.

www.fema.gov

The bullshit asymmetry principle is alive and well, sadly.

The problem is nothing can fight the lies anymore because they are actively ignoring any source of information other than ones that confirms their bias. It will just be FEMA is lying and the figures are false.

Objective reality is dead to these people. They want to be lied to as long as the other side gets pulled down

 

[Dave_5k]

Facebook has apparently decided that policing disinformation - even posts that risks lives, like what is going on the past few weeks - is far too asymmetrically dangerous to even bother with.

That is, Republicans will hang and quarter the company if they dare police disinformation, and Democrats will do nothing either way.

 

[APU_Fusion]

Facebook has apparently decided that policing disinformation - even posts that risks lives, like what is going on the past few weeks - is far too asymmetrically dangerous to even bother with.

That is, Republicans will hang and quarter the company if they dare police disinformation, and Democrats will do nothing either way.

Remember, according to Vance, Harris and the democrats censored the internet because they tried to have social media companies take down lies, conspiracies and outright lies during COVID that put lives at risk.

The lies, cons, and grift and are now blatant and fact checking them does nothing.

Imagine a Presidential candidate lying about Haitians eating neighbors pets before Trump. They would be booed and heckled right out of the race. It is so damn dumb but 40% of eligible voters in this country have embraced being dumb as a virtue.

Anyone who claims they are undecided is lying or just flat out dumb. Can’t even be bothered to basic fact check the garbage spewing from Trump’s mouth.

Fox News tried to call out Walz in interview for some misspoken words in his past asking if the American people could trust him. Trump just lied on national debate about people eating pets. 🤷‍♂️ I mean …

 

[VashHT]

desantis is refusing to take calls from the WH about the next hurricane coming and you can bet he will be blaming them for not planning ahead after it hits. Right wingers need to wake up, their politicians are literally willing to sacrifice their lives to score political points.

 

[K1052]

desantis is refusing to take calls from the WH about the next hurricane coming and you can bet he will be blaming them for not planning ahead after it hits. Right wingers need to wake up, their politicians are literally willing to sacrifice their lives to score political points.

I saw he went on TV saying that he's now spoken to Biden. Probably decided that it wasn't playing great in the press.

 

[Brovane]

I saw he went on TV saying that he's now spoken to Biden. Probably decided that it wasn't playing great in the press.

He also claims that he never got the message for Harris's phone calls.

FYI - I also did see this below gaining some traction with some right wingers. A Blackhawk Helicopter flew to low over a aid station and the rotor wash damaged supplies and tossed around canopies. What probably happened is the Helicopter was looking to land and did a recon pass to assess the area for a landing and the crew chief called out the flying debris so they picked another location. Trying to conduct operations from a unimproved location is harder than it looks. However the usual suspects seem to want to run with this as evidence of deliberate sabotage of aid by the Biden/Harris Administration.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1843207962757882203

 

[APU_Fusion]

He also claims that he never got the message for Harris's phone calls.

FYI - I also did see this below gaining some traction with some right wingers. A Blackhawk Helicopter flew to low over a aid station and the rotor wash damaged supplies and tossed around canopies. What probably happened is the Helicopter was looking to land and did a recon pass to assess the area for a landing and the crew chief called out the flying debris so they picked another location. Trying to conduct operations from a unimproved location is harder than it looks. However the usual suspects seem to want to run with this as evidence of deliberate sabotage of aid by the Biden/Harris Administration.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1843207962757882203

The dumb burns. Biden ordered a Blackhawk to sabotage a few tents?

Willful ignorance and stupidity

 

[nakedfrog]

The dumb burns. Biden ordered a Blackhawk to sabotage a few tents?

Willful ignorance and stupidity

"Joe Biden doesn't care about white people" energy.

 

[brycejones]

The dumb burns. Biden ordered a Blackhawk to sabotage a few tents?

Willful ignorance and stupidity

Who was supposed to stop him from pushing the "damage random relief supplies with a helicopter in a disaster zone" button on his desk? Or was he trying to raise gas prices again and hit the wrong one?

 

[hal2kilo]

desantis is refusing to take calls from the WH about the next hurricane coming and you can bet he will be blaming them for not planning ahead after it hits. Right wingers need to wake up, their politicians are literally willing to sacrifice their lives to score political points.

He's desperately hiding from having a Christy moment. You know the one where he thanked Biden for helping out New Jersey and got pummeled for it. Republicans are just evil now.

 

[esquared]

But the guy said it's " happening all over NC". 🙄🙄🙄

he dumb burns. Biden ordered a Blackhawk to sabotage a few tents?

Willful ignorance and stupidity

 

[hal2kilo]

He's desperately hiding from having a Christy moment. You know the one where he thanked Biden for helping out New Jersey and got pummeled for it. Republicans are just evil now.

Saw his news conference this morning he literally thanks 20 states for their help and never mentions federal assistance. Still at it.

 

[Lanyap]

Facebook has apparently decided that policing disinformation - even posts that risks lives, like what is going on the past few weeks - is far too asymmetrically dangerous to even bother with.

That is, Republicans will hang and quarter the company if they dare police disinformation, and Democrats will do nothing either way.

But wait, the state of florida is warning TV stations showing pro amendment 4 (abortion) that they could be criminally charged for airing them.

 

[MtnMan]

He also claims that he never got the message for Harris's phone calls.

FYI - I also did see this below gaining some traction with some right wingers. A Blackhawk Helicopter flew to low over a aid station and the rotor wash damaged supplies and tossed around canopies. What probably happened is the Helicopter was looking to land and did a recon pass to assess the area for a landing and the crew chief called out the flying debris so they picked another location. Trying to conduct operations from a unimproved location is harder than it looks. However the usual suspects seem to want to run with this as evidence of deliberate sabotage of aid by the Biden/Harris Administration.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1843207962757882203

That air crew has been grounded.

 

[cytg111]

Guess its all by design

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/08/elon-musk-hurricane-disinformation-trump-00182769

 

[Brovane]

That air crew has been grounded.

Is there more information on this?

 

[allisolm]

The disinformation spread by Repubs has gotten so bad that the few remaining semi-sane ones have had to resort to pleading with their own to stop listening to the drivel they spew about stealing FEMA money and controlling the weather and even going so far as to say "Former President Trump told us that the people in Springfield are eating dogs and cats, alright? He likewise said that FEMA money, our emergency money, instead of helping the people that are being hit by the hurricane is being used to help illegals. He just makes it up. So he is able to spew enough disinformation that the Chinese must be smiling. When it comes to a holiday from the truth, he’s taken the longest vacation.”

They have to turn on their own. Love it.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/09/politics/republicans-congress-hurricane-misinformation/index.html

 

[trenchfoot]

Is there more information on this?

From what little I've seen in the video, the damage I saw wasn't anything like what the commentator was describing. One untethered canopy went flying, some loose stuff got airborne and after realizing what was going on below the aircrew abandoned the attempt and circled around looking for another place to set down and couldn't find any.

IDK, after having quite a few slicks drop in on us and hover while we scrambled aboard to get the hell out of Dodge real quickie quickie, maybe it sort'a jaded me as far as what I witnessed.

 

[MtnMan]

Is there more information on this?

I saw it while scrolling through news in my phone (not FB, X, etc), but can't find it again. With my internet out, and iffy 4G I feel like I'm in the way back days of dial-up.

I didn't include much due to slow internet at the time, but once they realized what the rotor was doing, that abandoned landing, as @trenchfoot posted.

 

[MtnMan]

Saw a YouTube BS poster talking about FEMA confiscating relief supplies people and organizations are bringing in. Absolute BS, and I reported it on youtube for false information. Don't suspect anything was done.

My grandson is a Deputy Sheriff, and they have been guarding stockpiles of stuff, primarily at rural fire departments to protect them from looters, not FEMA. Looters being the same pond scum of society that would post this BS in the first place. People that needed stuff were still free to take what they need.

 

[jdubs03]

From what little I've seen in the video, the damage I saw wasn't anything like what the commentator was describing. One untethered canopy went flying, some loose stuff got airborne and after realizing what was going on below the aircrew abandoned the attempt and circled around looking for another place to set down and couldn't find any.

IDK, after having quite a few slicks drop in on us and hover while we scrambled aboard to get the hell out of Dodge real quickie quickie, maybe it sort'a jaded me as far as what I witnessed.

Talk about blowing shit out of proportion. At this point it is standard operating procedure for these clowns.

These people and their megaphones will incessantly exaggerate minor incidents and accidents as if they’re some sort of nefarious plot to screw over “Republican areas” (convenient to not mention that Democrats live there too).

Oh the irony, when there has been a slow motion (and some fast motion also known as Jan 6) nefarious plot by these same people to irrevocably alter the American government and society.

The more and more I’m looking at the current societal/political environment with so much disinformation I’m turning more skeptical as to what is going to come in 4 weeks time. Even if Harris wins, this has just been so disheartening.

 

[Brovane]

I saw it while scrolling through news in my phone (not FB, X, etc), but can't find it again. With my internet out, and iffy 4G I feel like I'm in the way back days of dial-up.

I didn't include much due to slow internet at the time, but once they realized what the rotor was doing, that abandoned landing, as @trenchfoot posted.

I found it. North Carolina National Guard has stepped forward and admitted it was one of their Blackhawks that was trying to deliver generator's to the location at the request of a local civilian organization. The crew aborted the delivery attempt once they realized the situation on the ground. The crew has been grounded until the investigation is complete. The NC National Guard has admitted that sometimes things don't go as planned. Biden didn't send secret Blackhawks to NC to disrupt supply deliveries to Republican areas.

 

[trenchfoot]

I found it. North Carolina National Guard has stepped forward and admitted it was one of their Blackhawks that was trying to deliver generator's to the location at the request of a local civilian organization. The crew aborted the delivery attempt once they realized the situation on the ground. The crew has been grounded until the investigation is complete. The NC National Guard has admitted that sometimes things don't go as planned. Biden didn't send secret Blackhawks to NC to disrupt supply deliveries to Republican areas.

Probably what's going to happen next is the load is going to be slung on a cable and lowered down with the heli hovering a hundred ft. above the nearest agreed to delegated safe drop zone or the loads will be dropped into the beds of pickups off site. Considering the generators were being transported by UH-60's they must'a been the smaller portable types. I got'ta lol a bit because if those gens are standard issue like the ones I messed around with, those 'lil suckers are LOUD.

 

[jdubs03]

Voter suppression is the name of the game. Even if it hurts their own voters? Idiots.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1844206007498702883