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Moonbeam

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Some brains/bodies make more "empathy" chemicals than others. Simple as that.
In my opinion, dank, this is a dangerous assumption to make. In the first place environment has an influence on gene expression, not to mention the psychological changes to the brain caused by traumatic events. I have two objections to your suggestion, the first is that it leads some inevitably to the notion of eugenics and the second to blaming negative emotional states on one's own genes and thus avoiding any notion there is a problem there that might have a cure. That in turn leads to a society dependent on the notion there is a pill one can take for anything. It is already almost impossible to get people to see their issues are attitudinal and that perspectives can change. Genetics is just an intellectual form of victim mentality.
 

dank69

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In my opinion, dank, this is a dangerous assumption to make. In the first place environment has an influence on gene expression, not to mention the psychological changes to the brain caused by traumatic events. I have two objections to your suggestion, the first is that it leads some inevitably to the notion of eugenics and the second to blaming negative emotional states on one's own genes and thus avoiding any notion there is a problem there that might have a cure. That in turn leads to a society dependent on the notion there is a pill one can take for anything. It is already almost impossible to get people to see their issues are attitudinal and that perspectives can change. Genetics is just an intellectual form of victim mentality.
Not all issues are attitudinal. Of course not everything can be solved with a "pill" but sometimes a "pill" is needed. Sometime attitude changes and chemical changes are still not enough. We do what we can, and try to learn how to do better as we go.
 
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Moonbeam

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Not all issues are attitudinal. Of course not everything can be solved with a "pill" but sometimes a "pill" is needed. Sometime attitude changes and chemical changes are still not enough. We do what we can, and try to learn how to do better as we go.
And sometimes we just have to exterminate defectives. I know where your rationalizations lead. Your search is an alibi to avoid awareness of self hate. You claim a will to do better as we go, but to me that is just bullshit. I just told you how to do better by dropping the notion you know what you are talking about. You…..”No way!”

The enemy of truth is the assumption we know what it is. The price I paid for that knowledge was everything I believed and was sacred to me. Think of the man charged with crossing a river over which he could take one item of three at a time, a wolf, a sheep, and some cabbages. He could only take the sheep because the wolf would not eat the cabbage if left unsupervised.
 

dank69

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And sometimes we just have to exterminate defectives. I know where your rationalizations lead. Your search is an alibi to avoid awareness of self hate. You claim a will to do better as we go, but to me that is just bullshit. I just told you how to do better by dropping the notion you know what you are talking about. You…..”No way!”

The enemy of truth is the assumption we know what it is. The price I paid for that knowledge was everything I believed and was sacred to me. Think of the man charged with crossing a river over which he could take one item of three at a time, a wolf, a sheep, and some cabbages. He could only take the sheep because the wolf would not eat the cabbage if left unsupervised.
You are projecting shit onto me again. Nowhere did I suggest extermination, and the idea that using a chemical to fix a mental condition must necessarily lead to eugenics is nonsense. The idea that everyone can fix whatever mental problems they may be having by just changing their attitude is ignorant and arrogant as fuck.
 

Indus

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That woman is painfully stupid
It hurt to watch it.

I used to love playing MMORPGs but ever since 2016 or so.. it has sucked since Trumpers outed themselves online en masse.

If you've ever played an mmo guild raid.. you know there are scripts which require you to take action or your raid will wipe. All of a sudden after 2016 they started feeling emboldened due to Trump and started blaming it on lib devs.

I used to think they were maybe inattentive or had bad connections but this revealed that they were massively lacking situational awareness and general intelligence.

Seeing real life versions being just as stupid isn't surprising anymore!
 

Moonbeam

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You are projecting shit onto me again. Nowhere did I suggest extermination, and the idea that using a chemical to fix a mental condition must necessarily lead to eugenics is nonsense. The idea that everyone can fix whatever mental problems they may be having by just changing their attitude is ignorant and arrogant as fuck.
I didn’t say you were suggesting extermination. I said that it is a feature of lack of psychological wisdom to blame defective behavior, the notion that it exists on genetic differences unbelievers and that kind of ignorant thinking will lead to eugenics as a solution to personal misery. Only the Arian race is tfree of defects. Have you been hiding behind the barn?

And what if the attitudinal change is the sudden realization that one’s mental problems only exist because you imagines you have them.

You accuse me of projection but you are just arguing what you believe. I used to believe that too but I woke up understanding that that all those things that I though I needed I didn’t really need. I saw I have a friend in the diamond business.
 

esquared

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elmo's baccccccckkkkkkkkkkkkk.

Elon Musk Is Offering A 'Free' Starlink Bait And Switch To Hurricane Victims​


Free internet for 30 days but you have to pay 400.00 for the equipment.
 

Brovane

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elmo's baccccccckkkkkkkkkkkkk.

Elon Musk Is Offering A 'Free' Starlink Bait And Switch To Hurricane Victims​


Free internet for 30 days but you have to pay 400.00 for the equipment.

How else would you get the service without a dish?

The original request on this was sent by volunteers and first responders in the impacted areas to make setup easier for the dish.

So Elon/SpaceX responds to a request from those in the disaster area on the ground and somehow it turns into a Bait and Switch?

 

outriding

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elmo's baccccccckkkkkkkkkkkkk.

Elon Musk Is Offering A 'Free' Starlink Bait And Switch To Hurricane Victims​


Free internet for 30 days but you have to pay 400.00 for the equipment.
What a piece of shit.

Just a few months ago in some states it was 300 for the hardware

 

trenchfoot

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Well...yeah...because the dirty librul demoncrats MADE the repubs do it!

When them Trumpies go in on the victimhood schtick and are believing that their own lies are the God's honest truth they sure do go all in balls to the walls go for broke don't they? Never ones to half-ass their way around dumbing themselves down below Trump's level of moronic ineptitude in order to look up to him as their racist White Sheeted Knight coming to rescue them from the evil border hopping boogeymen they themselves made up to scare themselves into needing that KKK approved and certified rescuer of theirs to begin with. One big self-powered circle jerk that keeps coming back around on itself to justify their existence as a political entity.
elmo's baccccccckkkkkkkkkkkkk.

Elon Musk Is Offering A 'Free' Starlink Bait And Switch To Hurricane Victims​


Free internet for 30 days but you have to pay 400.00 for the equipment.

Damn, it's like he enrolled at Trump University and got a $49.99 framed edition Ph.D cert (with summa cum laude honors of course) in ripping off suckers and losers. I'd die to get a glimpse of his thesis notes.
 

Amol S.

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MTG - "Yes they can control the weather. It’s ridiculous for anyone to lie and say it can’t be done.



I’m surprised she resisted the temptation to write (((they))) thusly.
So true, she and her politically ideological types are the ones that created global warming.
 

HomerJS

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In case anyone here has a 1% chance of taking anything this kook says seriously here’s some food for thought.

The average hurricane generates 1.5 trillion watts in wind energy and 600 trillion watts of heat energy by water condensing. Yes, I had to look up the exact numbers but I know enough about hurricanes to know nothing man can do to match the energy of a single hurricane.

Cloud seeding? Believe it or not there are people on right wing websites that believe this bullshit
 

trenchfoot

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Just caught this:


That man has a way of inspiring people like no other. To this day I still miss his being in office. The most important takeaway I got from his speech: "Character Matters", of which Trump's supporters have had to bury his heinous character deficiencies in the deepest reaches of their consciences never to be thought of....ever. What a price to pay for trying to install a dictator that will seize power and, in true authoritarian fashion, never ever let it get taken away from him. With so many of our nation's oligarchs backing his play (yes you Elon) it's a good bet Trump would make it stick too.
 

Moonbeam

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Choose one

Stupidity
Brainwashing
Hateful ignorance
I would not rule out any of these but I also see very smart people who believe profoundly stupid things. I think we have all been subjected to brainwashing and been affected by it. And I see a lot of hateful ignorance that is directed at hatefully ignorant people or at those not on our team, the team of the Knowers of objective reality, whatever that is.

I'd just call it Stockholm Syndrome, those whose sense of self worth was so badly damaged by torture and threat they gravitate to those who put others down but not them and join in the pleasure torturing others brought to those who tortured them.
 

Moonbeam

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That man has a way of inspiring people like no other. To this day I still miss his being in office. The most important takeaway I got from his speech: "Character Matters", of which Trump's supporters have had to bury his heinous character deficiencies in the deepest reaches of their consciences never to be thought of....ever. What a price to pay for trying to install a dictator that will seize power and, in true authoritarian fashion, never ever let it get taken away from him. With so many of our nation's oligarchs backing his play (yes you Elon) it's a good bet Trump would make it stick too.
When we say 'Character Matters' what do we mean? What is character? Why in a society like ours when winning is everything would anybody want to develop anything like so called character. Why not throw an anchor around your neck? What could be more valuable than lying cheating and conning other people. Winning is being famous, having power and wealth. Character is chump change for losers. Who can refute this.
 
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