Hellgate first impressions?

[ayabe]

I get cutscenes when playing online apoppin.

Err I get the first 3 at least.

 

[KMFJD]

Originally posted by: ayabe

Originally posted by: pontifex
What exactly is the appeal of the Hardcore mode? All that work and one mistake its gone...

E-peen and that's about it.

:roll: Ugh, perhaps it's for the challenge?

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: ayabe
I get cutscenes when playing online apoppin.

Err I get the first 3 at least.

no way
--i don't get *any*
-i kinda wondered about the "flow" of the story
----wtf is up with that?


not that i really care ... i plan to play the SP as a Summoner
-anyway ... i am going to hell ... c-ya!


EDIT: Crap ... i mean "Cool" ...
... there is a LOT more left

just hit the station for the home of the beatles ...


after three frigging tries with 1 crash and 2 network DCs
:|

should make 29 tonight ...
:roll:

---BTW, after you appear to complete "everything", go back to stations and you will likely find some new low-level quests that make it fun to blast thru parts you struggled with 10 level previously

 

[apoppin]

Wth do they get 40 hours?

--on god mode running thru the SP campaign?

i played since .. well before 8 am ... pretty continually [it's 2:30 PM] and i DID get to Level 30 ... and there still Looks like a lot to go ... i must have well over 40 hours - so far with my Engineer
.... am i just slow? i am doing all the SQs
[i am betting well over 50 hours ]
... of course, 10% IS Network DCs ... and some of that is certainly my ISP's fault ... but still ... i figure i have 75+ hours in ... with 3 characters
-there is some value here
:gift:


one thing i hate is running back and forth to 'the broker' at his 'station'
-fighting IS cool ... but i am feeling the "shopping-list" syndrome here

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: KMFJD

Originally posted by: ayabe

Originally posted by: pontifex
What exactly is the appeal of the Hardcore mode? All that work and one mistake its gone...

E-peen and that's about it.

:roll: Ugh, perhaps it's for the challenge?

can't you get the same challenge palying normally and not having to start a whole new character?

 

[imported_Imp]

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: KMFJD

Originally posted by: ayabe

Originally posted by: pontifex
What exactly is the appeal of the Hardcore mode? All that work and one mistake its gone...

E-peen and that's about it.

:roll: Ugh, perhaps it's for the challenge?

can't you get the same challenge palying normally and not having to start a whole new character?

No, you wouldn't get the same challenge from playing normally. You also wouldn't even play the same. It's like having a gun pointed at you every second of play, a huge pressure not only from part members, but also on yourself, cause you know from the start that once you screw up, "game over man, game over". Every hour you invested, all your equipment = gone. I can't even begin to count the number of things I wouldn't do if I knew I wouldn't get my stuff back. You can BEGIN to compare it do basic deathmatch and CS-style. People take less chances and think things through (i.e. camp more).

Personally, it's not my cup of tea. I have never played Hardcore (Diablo II), and kept out of it cause I knew that I would probably go buy a gun after I got killed from personal idiocy/lag/connection drop. And ya... all e-peen man:roll:. There are obviously bragging rights cause you are doing something a lot of people (as demonstrated in this thread) don't have the time or will to do.

 

[apoppin]

i am *pissed* at HGL ... 5 GD levels of the last 'necropolis' and it crashes with the friggin' goal in sight :|

--so - start over from the bloody station again ... at least an hour and hope there is no more errors
:Q


well, at least i will be Level 31 and it will be easier
:roll:
and i know the shortcuts

there ought to be some kind of checkpoint save besides the stations
... i am SO sorry i played this online
:thumbsdown:

 

[Elcs]

Funnily enough, I had a load of crashes online then one day I decided to update the SP part of it.

I have had two crashes in the past week during gameplay. This does not count in crashes caused by me switching graphics modes which it doesnt always like.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Elcs
Funnily enough, I had a load of crashes online then one day I decided to update the SP part of it.

I have had two crashes in the past week during gameplay. This does not count in crashes caused by me switching graphics modes which it doesnt always like.

are you talking about 2 crashes a week in SP?
-i get 2 random crashes every 5 hours


*ambiguous SPOILER ALERT*
... sort of"


- the first big crash was in Necropolis Deep Level 5 in sight of the goal [after clearing 7 maps]; the 2nd time was in Level 4 [after clearing 6 maps] of the Necropolis. :|
--the third time i got thru i ran and used invisibility - i have <<all 7 areas drawn out on paper and completely mapped from start right to the goal just because of the stupid disconnects and the fact that your portal doesn't get saved
.. anyway ... it's starting to get kinda exciting ... something new ... a game of 'bacon' ...
:roll:
. . . with demons



Seriously ... one thing that really spoils it - considering i am playing without cutscenes anyway - is the lack of voice acting where you have to read the dialogue - one tends to skip it ... they spend $20 million on a game and can't spend another 50K$ to make it flow better?


i think i might finish it today ... maybe
-i am NOT impressed with MP ... can 'chat' be more clunky?
--IF i don't get Assassins' Creed this week, i will play a Summoner off the DVD.

 

[Elcs]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Elcs
Funnily enough, I had a load of crashes online then one day I decided to update the SP part of it.

I have had two crashes in the past week during gameplay. This does not count in crashes caused by me switching graphics modes which it doesnt always like.

are you talking about 2 crashes a week in SP?
-i get 2 random crashes every 5 hours


*ambiguous SPOILER ALERT*
... sort of"


- the first big crash was in Necropolis Deep Level 5 in sight of the goal [after clearing 7 maps]; the 2nd time was in Level 4 [after clearing 6 maps] of the Necropolis. :|
--the third time i got thru i ran and used invisibility - i have <<<all 7 areas drawn out on paper and completely mapped from start right to the goal just because of the stupid disconnects and the fact that your portal doesn't get saved
.. anyway ... it's starting to get kinda exciting ... something new ... a game of 'bacon' ...
:roll:
. . . with demons



Seriously ... one thing that really spoils it - considering i am playing without cutscenes anyway - is the lack of voice acting where you have to read the dialogue - one tends to skip it ... they spend $20 million on a game and can't spend another 50K$ to make it flow better?


i think i might finish it today ... maybe
-i am NOT impressed with MP ... can 'chat' be more clunky?
--IF i don't get Assassins' Creed this week, i will play a Summoner off the DVD.

I play MP but the SP update helped MP stability. Go figure.

5.1 Sound is bugged in the DX10 version. I find on occaision, I get full 5.1 audio where the speak works perfectly.

Chat to an NPC and aim yourself so that your right front speaker is the one that would be facing him and you will hear the sound. 5.1 would play it via the front speaker, howver this and the rear ones sound disabled and tilting to the side, you hear it in the side speakers.

 

[apoppin]

WOW! ... it just keeps going and going!!!
-except it crashed after 5 hours - one session - and my antiVir did it


Yes it IS a . . . ****************SPOILER to FOLLOW!!!!!!***************





. . . Long SP experience

Not 5 acts; i just finished Act 5 .. at least 6

-and kinda of a cheapshot with a Deus Ex Machina that really extends the MQ - but without it it would be damn near impossible unless you know else what do and maybe figure a couple of hours to clear one map to your goal - everything comes in at least pairs and triplets and respawns. Some puzzles i passed but never figured out WtF they really were ... maybe i got lucky.
--My Engineer is Level 32 ... 10 hours into this game TODAY ... and it has got to be over 50 hours
.... and some Enemies appear to also get stronger with him
:Q

will i sleep tonight?




it really does appear to be heading to the grand finale ... but you just have that urge for "just another quest" ... as far as i can see i have done *everything* up-till-now

 

[Jschmuck2]

You must ::really:: like this game apoppin - a lot.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
You must ::really:: like this game apoppin - a lot.

it's love-hate
-i have a lot to say about it and my view of it is changing as i continue to play for well over 50 hours



there is a LOT to love
--but you have to wade thru some crap if you are online.
:brokenheart:

i really want to see the cutscenes and hope there is at least the Ending
[i guess i can look on the DVD]

 

[Jschmuck2]

Why haven't we played together yet?

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
Why haven't we played together yet?

because i just noticed that my 'default' is "party off"


and i find it really hard to pay attention to what is going around and handle the chat

where are you in the game? ... i am at the last station
... heading for the Hellgate with the One Rin ...

wait ... that's another game
:Q

EDIT - UPDATE: OK ... 2AM crash ...

Just in *hell* trying to close the gate [i hope to level up to '33' there - gives some advantage] ... good time as any to exit [of course, i have to start over from the station] ... so much *crap* flying around [including frendly-NPCs] that i had to lower settings to get playable Frame-rates
i should be done with my first campaign tomorrow ... the Engineer isn't as strong as i would have liked ... i am glad for a moment of cloaked invisibility

i am beginning to think the enemy NPCs level-up with you
:Q

 

[Lamont Burns]

LVL 25 now about 1 hour into Act 5 Normal. Just trying to finish it so I can create an elite character. Found 2 uniques over the weekend, no stats. Bugged, and no fix. Super.

Crashed twice just prior to a zone 2 out from a station, awesome.

I think the only fun I am having is running the mini game over and over at this point. The Act 4 final boss didn't even drop a green... just paladium and 1 large health injector. w00t! Although I guess he was not tagged as normal bosses are... but assumed since he took 2 minutes to drop loot might be scaled accordingly.

Debating coming back next year when things might be somewhat better...

 

[Smilin]

So now that the full version is out and I've been playing a bit. This is how you're supposed to play:

1. Enter town.
2. Use minimap and find any NPCs with yellow/purple exclamations.
3. Ignore text they say, just hit the accept button.
4. Repeat 2 & 3 until no more exclamations.
5. Run around to every Gold gateway and clear the place. Don't be shy...go tear it up!
6. Repeat 5 until no more gold gateways.
7. Use minimap and find any NPCs with yellow/purple question marks.
8. Ignore anything they say. Just hit the "choose for me" button.
9. Repeat 2-8 until only blue gateways remain.
10. Go to next town.

Playing it in a "oooh follow the quest" manner is just a bit dry and boring. Based on some of the quests and the story line I just don't think the game was intended to be immersive in a quest sort of way.

It's an action game. Go kill sh1t and it's fun.


The patches are starting to make a pretty big difference as far as bugs go.

 

[coloumb]

Originally posted by: Smilin

So now that the full version is out and I've been playing a bit. This is how you're supposed to play:

1. Enter town.
2. Use minimap and find any NPCs with yellow/purple exclamations.
3. Ignore text they say, just hit the accept button.
4. Repeat 2 & 3 until no more exclamations.
5. Run around to every Gold gateway and clear the place. Don't be shy...go tear it up!
6. Repeat 5 until no more gold gateways.
7. Use minimap and find any NPCs with yellow/purple question marks.
8. Ignore anything they say. Just hit the "choose for me" button.
9. Repeat 2-8 until only blue gateways remain.
10. Go to next town.

Playing it in a "oooh follow the quest" manner is just a bit dry and boring. Based on some of the quests and the story line I just don't think the game was intended to be immersive in a quest sort of way.

It's an action game. Go kill sh1t and it's fun.


The patches are starting to make a pretty big difference as far as bugs go.

Basically - but you can modify your weapons, upgrade your armor [loot drops or vendor], create new weapon powerups [basic crafting], buy/sell items [vendor], etc.

But yeah... it's pretty much just grab quest and go on a killing spree of loot drop heaven..

 

[ayabe]

Hmm well just a few hours into Act 5 met the Broker who is in the middle of one of the instances. He's given me a bunch of crap quests to go into areas and fight lvl 15 mobs again, plus I have to fight through two areas just to get to him to turn them in.

Does anyone know if this is a bug? I wanted to start on the Necropolis quests but now I'm saddled with all of these "old" quests that didn't spawn for me before in areas like Charing Cross Station. Stupid design IMHO.

 

[Lamont Burns]

Originally posted by: ayabe
Hmm well just a few hours into Act 5 met the Broker who is in the middle of one of the instances. He's given me a bunch of crap quests to go into areas and fight lvl 15 mobs again, plus I have to fight through two areas just to get to him to turn them in.

Does anyone know if this is a bug? I wanted to start on the Necropolis quests but now I'm saddled with all of these "old" quests that didn't spawn for me before in areas like Charing Cross Station. Stupid design IMHO.

Yeah I got that too, saw where to go... was like wtf? I'm running a whole bunch of old quests atm trying to clear them out and then I guess hopefully progress.

snoozer atm

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: LAMONTBURNS

Originally posted by: ayabe
Hmm well just a few hours into Act 5 met the Broker who is in the middle of one of the instances. He's given me a bunch of crap quests to go into areas and fight lvl 15 mobs again, plus I have to fight through two areas just to get to him to turn them in.

Does anyone know if this is a bug? I wanted to start on the Necropolis quests but now I'm saddled with all of these "old" quests that didn't spawn for me before in areas like Charing Cross Station. Stupid design IMHO.

Yeah I got that too, saw where to go... was like wtf? I'm running a whole bunch of old quests atm trying to clear them out and then I guess hopefully progress.

snoozer atm

just *ignore* the broker ... he adds very little to the story... the ONLY reason to keep going thru the same maps to get to him is to LEVEL UP
--duh

DeusEx suffered from the same crap
:roll:

the solution:

It's an action game. Go kill sh1t and it's fun.

... and i am going to Hell - *final Battle* 'till the X-pack]
... i'll let you know IF i return
:Q

 

[HopJokey]

Hey appopin, how large is the full game? I was in the beta; what % of the full game is the beta (in terms of levels/areas/stations)? Thanks.

 

[apoppin]

about half

3 acts in the Beta ... and three more ... i finished 5 last night and am in act 6
[afaik ... i should see what is after hell in a bit]

 

[boatillo]

I just started Act 2 and bought the game on 10/31, I guess I am a casual gamer!

Very fun so far, well except that my Evoker got jack for skill options until level 10 so here I am saving up points and firing the same spell over and over.

Still fun.

And runs good for me! Had 1 crash on the first day I think, nothing since. Actually when I got sucked through some portal to talk to the first Sage after killing some gultar guy I was like "NOOOO MY LOOT!" All I saw was like 0.5seconds of my legendaries and blues spilling out of him. Good thing it was just part of the story hehe.

 

[pontifex]

how do you know when its the next act?