Everyone says the P-3 is no match for the T-bird. However, in my experience with a P-866 running at 134 on a Abit be6-II compared to a 1Ghz T-bird on a MSI board, I like the P-III. Have no benchmarking numbers to compare, but this P-III Abit combo is sweet. Don't fall for the hype, keep looking for more data. I will say however that I my have some Norton issues on the T-Bird to correct before I can experience the real thrill of the T-Bird.