Help choosing a monitor IPS vs TN

sauron18

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My budget limit is $200 max right now later on i will get something bigger and better.

Which monitor is better?
ASUS VS239H-P E-IPS
HP 2311xi E-IPS
HP 2511x TN

What i do most of the time with the PC is internet, watching movies and gaming. For gaming i play everything for example Battlefield 3, Moden warfare, Borderlands 2, Starcraft 2, XCOM, Dark Soul, Skyrim. I do not play online FPS so i'm not a hardcore FPS gamer.
I don't care about stand adjustment or vesa because the monitor will sit in the desk.

What would be my best choice? I know about the Dell UltraSharp U2312HM but is a little more than $200.
 

C1

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Everyone seems to like the The U2312 (gets 5 stars on Newegg who has it now for $259).

A display is so massively important to the computing experience that it should not be skimped upon. In addition, a display is one of the few system components that is likely to be transferred to any replacement or upgraded system. In addition, Im finding that a good quality display retains desirability in the resale market (eg, about the only thing Ive had good luck selling on Craigs List are quality monitors - they get snapped up within just a day or two; sold three so far).

BTW, everytime I watch movies on my Asus PA246Q (in theater mode), Im so pleased. With the many projects and activities I do with the computer, I would have to rate the weight of the Asus's contribution to the computing experience (helpfulness as well as pleasure) as being 60-70%.
 

Remobz

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My budget limit is $200 max right now later on i will get something bigger and better.

Which monitor is better?
ASUS VS239H-P E-IPS
HP 2311xi E-IPS
HP 2511x TN

What i do most of the time with the PC is internet, watching movies and gaming. For gaming i play everything for example Battlefield 3, Moden warfare, Borderlands 2, Starcraft 2, XCOM, Dark Soul, Skyrim. I do not play online FPS so i'm not a hardcore FPS gamer.
I don't care about stand adjustment or vesa because the monitor will sit in the desk.

What would be my best choice? I know about the Dell UltraSharp U2312HM but is a little more than $200.



ASUS PB Series PB238Q 23-Inch Screen LED-lit Monitor


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...C?tag=at055-20
 

destrekor

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ASUS PB Series PB238Q 23-Inch Screen LED-lit Monitor


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...C?tag=at055-20

I own three of the PA238Q, and while they have varying levels of backlight bleed (honestly, it's not even that terrible and all the other positives offset that one negative), I love these. Terrific for 5760 (6060 bezel corrected) x 1080 surround gaming.

I'm not pro, and don't appear to be terribly sensitive to refresh-rate-induced motion blur, but I also previously had an LG L227 display (TN panel) that had been raved about for ultra-quick refresh rates and gamers loved them. And considering I don't really notice anything different, I'd probably have to go into eagle-eye mode and run utilities specifically for refresh rate testing to actually spot a difference. I'm sure there is the tiniest bit of blur, but I myself don't notice a thing.

If the PB238Q is similar, I'd highly suggest it. From what I've seen online, it does appear to have a few less features compared to the PA-series, but those features are more designed for art professionals.

If the panels on the same level, go for them! Attractive price too. And a nice bonus if they fixed the backlight bleeding.
 

QueBert

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Buy an IPS monitor. TN is a technology that needs to die... yes, even for gaming.

eIPS has crappy color reproduction just like TN, only advantage imho would be viewing angle. And to me since I'm always directly in front of my monitor I could care less how it looks from other than sitting in front of it. IPS is better than TN, but eIPS? meh.
 

Throckmorton

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eIPS has crappy color reproduction just like TN, only advantage imho would be viewing angle. And to me since I'm always directly in front of my monitor I could care less how it looks from other than sitting in front of it. IPS is better than TN, but eIPS? meh.

The viewing angle does matter even if you're sitting right in front, because the edges of them monitor are at an angle
 

Remobz

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I own three of the PA238Q, and while they have varying levels of backlight bleed (honestly, it's not even that terrible and all the other positives offset that one negative), I love these. Terrific for 5760 (6060 bezel corrected) x 1080 surround gaming.

I'm not pro, and don't appear to be terribly sensitive to refresh-rate-induced motion blur, but I also previously had an LG L227 display (TN panel) that had been raved about for ultra-quick refresh rates and gamers loved them. And considering I don't really notice anything different, I'd probably have to go into eagle-eye mode and run utilities specifically for refresh rate testing to actually spot a difference. I'm sure there is the tiniest bit of blur, but I myself don't notice a thing.

If the PB238Q is similar, I'd highly suggest it. From what I've seen online, it does appear to have a few less features compared to the PA-series, but those features are more designed for art professionals.

If the panels on the same level, go for them! Attractive price too. And a nice bonus if they fixed the backlight bleeding.


Did you have to do any special color tweaking on the monitor itself? or Download any special color calibration software?
 

destrekor

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Did you have to do any special color tweaking on the monitor itself? or Download any special color calibration software?

I think I did a little bit, mostly adjusting brightness and contrast. I may have edited specific color channels but I think I didn't have to. I used some basic apps/websites to show colors and calibration patterns, and followed adjustment advice.

On the PA series for sure, there are certain modes and editing options that are either enabled or not enabled depending on certain selections. Saturation and something else aren't available in Standard Mode (may be available in sRGB mode), but some things aren't editable in sRGB mode iirc. I remember playing around with different modes, and while being able to edit everything was great, it seemed the best "starting palette", for my monitors, was found in the Standard Mode, and editing what I could there. Some was also mostly preference, not impacting the overall calibration that much if at all.
I remember not liking the sRGB's starting point, and being unable to tweak it to a point I found acceptable. I think white in that mode seemed oddly blue, but could have just been quite cold compared to what I suspect might be a warm white by default.
I am slightly colorblind (red/green), so... calibration shouldn't be left to my eyes, but they do have a vote dammit. But it would make sense for a cold white to stand out to my eyes sooner in the spectrum, whereas warm whites will need to be quite warm before my eyes could probably recognize it as having passed neutral balance.

I'm no graphic professional, so I'm not worried about print matching or perfect publishing.

So with that said, I myself am happy with the color on these, and the calibration options were pleasing. I'm not sure how much is removed, if anything, from the PB238Q's OSD menu. If you are the type that will use calibration hardware, I'm probably the last person you should seek calibration opinions from. I appreciate the art of calibration and even had my TV professionally calibrated (which was ridiculous considering I had it in my dorm room and it was a 32" 720p LCD, and more ridiculous was at the time such models, including mine, cost around the $1000 mark. 2006 was not a good year to enter into the buyers market, I have come to realize ), but I cannot guarantee results based on eyes alone - I'd need quality eyes, or unbiased and perfect hardware eyes, to spit out results to me.
 
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