Help! DIY home improvement problem: baseboard not right height for wood floors.

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Zargon

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I didn't use quarter round on my hardwood. I think it looks better without it and says the installer did a good job and didn't need molding to cover up screw ups.

LOL the floor installer cant control how even/uneven your floor joists are :whiste:
 

Humpy

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LOL the floor installer cant control how even/uneven your floor joists are :whiste:

He certainly could, sometimes very easily. There are other ways to flatten out a subfloor also. The entire issue centers on what the owner can afford, what perception of quality they can live with, and personal preference.
 

DrPizza

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I'm an expert, and I say to do it correctly so you don't have to use quarter round.

Its not that hard to cut the caulk on top of the trim with a razor, then pull it off, pull the nails out of it, place the hard wood floor, put your baseboard back down, Spackle, caulk, and paint. Maybe you need to run it through a table saw first to cut that 1/16" of an inch off, still not that hard.

Pull the nails out of it? You're talking about professional jobs in million dollar houses, yet you have exposed nails that can just be easily pulled out? I'd think a professional job on something like an oak or other hardwood baseboard would have the nails sunk a little below the surface, and a wood matching filler covering those nail holes. You wouldn't pull those nails - pounding them back through risks splintering the wood. I would think that you would use a pair of side cutters (else dremel, but that'd take longer) to simply cut the nails flush on the back of the molding. Further, if you had nail holes, there'd be a big temptation to reuse the same nail holes. If you do, then the new nails are going to seek those preexisting holes. Move that molding 1/16" inch, and the nails are likely to pull the molding back up into its original position (if you're lowering it.)
 

mugs

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Pull the nails out of it? You're talking about professional jobs in million dollar houses, yet you have exposed nails that can just be easily pulled out? I'd think a professional job on something like an oak or other hardwood baseboard would have the nails sunk a little below the surface, and a wood matching filler covering those nail holes. You wouldn't pull those nails - pounding them back through risks splintering the wood. I would think that you would use a pair of side cutters (else dremel, but that'd take longer) to simply cut the nails flush on the back of the molding. Further, if you had nail holes, there'd be a big temptation to reuse the same nail holes. If you do, then the new nails are going to seek those preexisting holes. Move that molding 1/16" inch, and the nails are likely to pull the molding back up into its original position (if you're lowering it.)

I think he meant pull them through the back of the baseboard. It's very easy to do with the 16 gauge "nails" that are typically used these days. With actual finish nails it's probably not much more difficult.
 

Zargon

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He certainly could, sometimes very easily. There are other ways to flatten out a subfloor also. The entire issue centers on what the owner can afford, what perception of quality they can live with, and personal preference.

let me just dump 500 lbs of self leveling concrete in here.....looks its flat!

a guy you pay to do do flooring shouldnt be able to do other trades, esp hardwood floors. any one worth their shit at it, its all they do.

I think he meant pull them through the back of the baseboard. It's very easy to do with the 16 gauge "nails" that are typically used these days. With actual finish nails it's probably not much more difficult.

I assumed the same thing
 

UnklSnappy

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a guy you pay to do do flooring shouldnt be able to do other trades, esp hardwood floors. any one worth their shit at it, its all they do.

I do hardwood floors for a living. Mostly high end work and I'm often fixing subfloor problems.
 

SyndromeOCZ

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I think he meant pull them through the back of the baseboard. It's very easy to do with the 16 gauge "nails" that are typically used these days. With actual finish nails it's probably not much more difficult.

This.

In million dollar homes they don't reuse baseboard, but I've done it many times in my own home and the end product is the same(though its more labor for me).
 

Red Squirrel

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In million dollar homes I doubt wood is even used for baseboards. Probably marble, gold, diamond, or other kind of exotic thing like that.

Though in this case I'm pretty sure we're not talking about a million dollar home. Million dollar home and DIY usually don't go together, because the owners aint got time for that, while they sit by the pool sipping on some expensive drink.
 

Humpy

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let me just dump 500 lbs of self leveling concrete in here.....looks its flat!

a guy you pay to do do flooring shouldnt be able to do other trades, esp hardwood floors. any one worth their shit at it, its all they do.

Most of the guys I know, at least the residential construction ones, could make a living in any of the trades if they wanted to. For business reasons usually they stick with one. After you do it for a few years you realize its all the same. The parts and pieces are shaped a little differently, but the tools, dexterity, logic, and concepts are pretty much the same.

And really, to be good at one thing you have to know what all the other guys are doing and why.
 

Zargon

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Most of the guys I know, at least the residential construction ones, could make a living in any of the trades if they wanted to. For business reasons usually they stick with one. After you do it for a few years you realize its all the same. The parts and pieces are shaped a little differently, but the tools, dexterity, logic, and concepts are pretty much the same.

And really, to be good at one thing you have to know what all the other guys are doing and why.


Real floor sanders are pricey and no general tradesman I know do it.

The one thing they do say is to hire out the finishing to someone who owns their tools and doesn't show up with a drum sander

I do hardwood floors for a living. Mostly high end work and I'm often fixing subfloor problems.


I'm not talking about replacing bad OSB or plywood and maybe shimming them some for level. If you rip open ceiling to fix sag issues more power to ya tho. That's what I was referring to

And I imagine the higher end guys like you go out further and do more like shimming out and leveling off minor imperfections. I don't live in that tier. I installed my own and hired out the finishing.



Ugh this reminds me that I'm about due for a visit from my floor guy
 
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SyndromeOCZ

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In million dollar homes I doubt wood is even used for baseboards. Probably marble, gold, diamond, or other kind of exotic thing like that.

I said millions, not billions. When a home is 14,000 sq ft then you can burn through money very quickly. Of course putting in hand made solid wood 8ft doors then it goes even quicker.

I've also done smaller homes 8,000 sq ft that were well into the millions. In all of the homes I've done I've never actually seen marble, gold, or diamond baseboard.
 

FallenHero

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I said millions, not billions. When a home is 14,000 sq ft then you can burn through money very quickly. Of course putting in hand made solid wood 8ft doors then it goes even quicker.

I've also done smaller homes 8,000 sq ft that were well into the millions. In all of the homes I've done I've never actually seen marble, gold, or diamond baseboard.

How much would marble baseboard cost? I am on ATOT, and I make millions, so I'm in the market.
 
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