HELP! I've been kidnapped and taken to Mexico!!

[shiner]

At least that's what I think has happened.

I'm sitting here watching Sunday Night Football on NBC and have seen several commercials in Spanish, the screen graphics(down, distance, etc, etc,) for the game have been in Spanish occasionally and Al Michaels just pointed out that the game was being broadcast in Spanish on Telemundo.

THIS IS ALL BULLSHIT! I'm so fricking sick and tired of road signs in Spanish, government forms in Spanish, Spanish announcements being made in Target/Wal-Mart/Sears/etc... and going into a restaurant and nobody working there can speak anything but Spanish.

This is the United States of America and we speak English here. If you want to immigrate then learn the god damned language! Don't expect us to adapt to you. You moved here....YOU ADAPT! You obviously came here because you country is a pile of crap and you had to come here to get a better life. If you did it illegally...GET THE FUCK OUT! If you did it legally then assimilate and stop trying to recreate your craptastic culture here.

 

[2Xtreme21]

Tell that to the Native Americans who were forced to listen to our foreign language (while we systematically raped everything they had).

Have some tolerance. How is it affecting you other than bringing out the bigot in you?

 

[herm0016]

QFT!!! though i enjoy the mexican culture and people, i do not enjoy pressing 2 for english. if you come here speak english.

rant gets about a 3/10

 

[Cdubneeddeal]

I don't know if agree with you or not, but I do see your point regarding Spanish signs and commercials. If they do immigrate here, they should learn the English language and we shouldn't have to make it easier for them to be here. They came here for the better life as you had stated, so they should adapt to our language. However, we're America. We welcome those from other countries with open arms, so to speak. We're here to be hospitable. We're here to help those in need. I see your point, but don't agree with it fully.

 

[shiner]

Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21
Tell that to the Native Americans who were forced to listen to our foreign language (while we systematically raped everything they had).

Have some tolerance. How is it affecting you other than bringing out the bigot in you?

Oh STFU. The whole Native American argument is weak as water. If you want to get into that sort of stupidity then let's go all the way back to when human kind first wandered out of Africa. I have a Masters Degree in Native American History and Culture so don't think you're talking to an idiot when it comes to that subject.

The point is the Mexicans are the only people in the history of this country who have immigrated and refused to assimilate. Instead of doing what generations of immigrants before them have done, learn our culture and language, they bull headedly insist on maintaining the very culture they escaped from and don't want to learn our language. It is ridiculous that governments have had to go to the expense of printing a multitude of official forms in Spanish, that they have had to replace perfectly good street/highway signs with new bilingual ones. How fucked up is that? If you can't read the language you sure as hell shouldn't be driving and likely don't even have a license or insurance.

 

[Gunslinger08]

This is why Congress needs to pass a law making English the official language of the US.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: joshsquall
This is why Congress needs to pass a law making English the official language of the US.

"In the first place we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the man's becoming in very fact an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag, and this excludes the red flag, which symbolizes all wars against liberty and civilization, just as much as it excludes any foreign flag of a nation to which we are hostile...We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language...and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."

Theodore Roosevelt
---------------
"Americanization" was a favorite theme of Roosevelt's during his later years, when he railed repeatedly against "hyphenated Americans" and the prospect of a nation "brought to ruins" by a "tangle of squabbling nationalities."

He advocated the compulsory learning of English by every naturalized citizen. "Every immigrant who comes here should be required within five years to learn English or to leave the country," he said in a statement to the Kansas City Star in 1918. "English should be the only language taught or used in the public schools."

He also insisted, on more than one occasion, that America has no room for what he called "fifty-fifty allegiance." In a speech made in 1917 he said, "It is our boast that we admit the immigrant to full fellowship and equality with the native-born. In return we demand that he shall share our undivided allegiance to the one flag which floats over all of us."

link

 

[BoomerD]

Originally posted by: joshsquall
This is why Congress needs to pass a law making English the official language of the US.

:thumbsup:

 

[2Xtreme21]

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21
Tell that to the Native Americans who were forced to listen to our foreign language (while we systematically raped everything they had).

Have some tolerance. How is it affecting you other than bringing out the bigot in you?

Oh STFU. The whole Native American argument is weak as water. If you want to get into that sort of stupidity then let's go all the way back to when human kind first wandered out of Africa. I have a Masters Degree in Native American History and Culture so don't think you're talking to an idiot when it comes to that subject.

The point is the Mexicans are the only people in the history of this country who have immigrated and refused to assimilate. Instead of doing what generations of immigrants before them have done, learn our culture and language, they bull headedly insist on maintaining the very culture they escaped from and don't want to learn our language. It is ridiculous that governments have had to go to the expense of printing a multitude of official forms in Spanish, that they have had to replace perfectly good street/highway signs with new bilingual ones. How fucked up is that? If you can't read the language you sure as hell shouldn't be driving and likely don't even have a license or insurance.

So your argument is, because I am better than they are, they should conform to what I believe and how I act. The beauty of this country is you have the freedom to speak whatever language you want and practice whatever culture you choose without fear of discrimination.

 

[IronWing]

Nah, let the market sort it out. If Spanish wins, it wins. Personally, over time, I think English will win out 'cause that's where most the money is. Then again, the Telemundo babes are definitely hotter than the anorexics on the Anglo channels so who knows?

 

[BrokenVisage]

You rule OP! I saw the phrase 'Futbol Americano' on the halftime score graphic and was like "WTF SPANISH INQUISITION??"

 

[erikistired]

Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21
Tell that to the Native Americans who were forced to listen to our foreign language (while we systematically raped everything they had).

Have some tolerance. How is it affecting you other than bringing out the bigot in you?

Oh STFU. The whole Native American argument is weak as water. If you want to get into that sort of stupidity then let's go all the way back to when human kind first wandered out of Africa. I have a Masters Degree in Native American History and Culture so don't think you're talking to an idiot when it comes to that subject.

The point is the Mexicans are the only people in the history of this country who have immigrated and refused to assimilate. Instead of doing what generations of immigrants before them have done, learn our culture and language, they bull headedly insist on maintaining the very culture they escaped from and don't want to learn our language. It is ridiculous that governments have had to go to the expense of printing a multitude of official forms in Spanish, that they have had to replace perfectly good street/highway signs with new bilingual ones. How fucked up is that? If you can't read the language you sure as hell shouldn't be driving and likely don't even have a license or insurance.

So your argument is, because I am better than they are, they should conform to what I believe and how I act. The beauty of this country is you have the freedom to speak whatever language you want and practice whatever culture you choose without fear of discrimination.

i'm fairly certain that speaking whatever language you want is not a freedom of this country. the problem is that other cultures are trying to make us conform to them, which is garbage and PC America is letting it happen.

 

[Inspector Jihad]

que?

 

[shiner]

Originally posted by: fisher

Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21
Tell that to the Native Americans who were forced to listen to our foreign language (while we systematically raped everything they had).

Have some tolerance. How is it affecting you other than bringing out the bigot in you?

Oh STFU. The whole Native American argument is weak as water. If you want to get into that sort of stupidity then let's go all the way back to when human kind first wandered out of Africa. I have a Masters Degree in Native American History and Culture so don't think you're talking to an idiot when it comes to that subject.

The point is the Mexicans are the only people in the history of this country who have immigrated and refused to assimilate. Instead of doing what generations of immigrants before them have done, learn our culture and language, they bull headedly insist on maintaining the very culture they escaped from and don't want to learn our language. It is ridiculous that governments have had to go to the expense of printing a multitude of official forms in Spanish, that they have had to replace perfectly good street/highway signs with new bilingual ones. How fucked up is that? If you can't read the language you sure as hell shouldn't be driving and likely don't even have a license or insurance.

So your argument is, because I am better than they are, they should conform to what I believe and how I act. The beauty of this country is you have the freedom to speak whatever language you want and practice whatever culture you choose without fear of discrimination.

i'm fairly certain that speaking whatever language you want is not a freedom of this country. the problem is that other cultures are trying to make us conform to them, which is garbage and PC America is letting it happen.

Yep.

Like I said. Generations of other immigrants came here and adapted to our culture and language. It is only these new Mexican immigrants, many of them illegal, who refuse to do so.

As an example....

Here in Tulsa the schools are now having to setup classrooms in several of the schools that are Spanish only. Seriously. WTF? They are having to do so because the students don't speak English and their parents refuse to let them be taught English. Personally I think they should load their ass up and get back to Mexico, but no we have to understand them and help them. Bullcrap. God damned PC bleeding heart liberals are selling the country down the river with that kind of stupid thinking.

 

[IronWing]

Originally posted by: shinerburke
This is the United States of America and we speak English here.

Not very well.

 

[BoomerD]

que?
Isn't that what you use to shoot pool?

OR


/me lives in Northern Mexifornia...
Isn't that what they call the cards comedians use to remember their lines?

 

[MyThirdEye]

I think it should be a law that to be an American, you have to know the lingo.

To be honest, we shouldn't have to "Dial 1 For Spanish" option.

 

[IronWing]

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Yep.

Like I said. Generations of other immigrants came here and adapted to our culture and language. It is only these new Mexican immigrants, many of them illegal, who refuse to do so.

As an example....

Here in Tulsa the schools are now having to setup classrooms in several of the schools that are Spanish only. Seriously. WTF? They are having to do so because the students don't speak English and their parents refuse to let them be taught English. Personally It think they should load their ass up and get back to Mexico, but no we have to understand them and help them. Bullcrap. God damned PC bleeding heart liberals are selling the country down the river with that kind of stupid thinking.

Four generations of Germans lived in Wisconsin before bothering to learn English. Growing up, I met old Norwegians who couldn't speak English. Their ancestors arrived in the US the 1840s. There were many communities where the public schools only taught in German, only taught in Norwegian. It worked for them. Eventually market forces convinced folks to learn English, not a government mandate. You don't want to learn Spanish? Then don't.

 

[Howard]

cue

 

[Rogodin2]

The hispanic population is doing what white people won't do, they work the land for the large ag corporations for wages that you won't work for.

If you're pissed off then grow your own food.

Rogo

 

[Jadow]

Just tuned in at halftime. YUK. I hope Madden sets things right and goes on a rant about this.

If they keep cramming this down our throats, there will be major backlash.

 

[Kirby]

:heart:

 

[IronWing]

Originally posted by: Jadow
Just tuned in at halftime. YUK. I hope Madden sets things right and goes on a rant about this.

If they keep cramming this down our throats, there will be major backlash.

Did a Mexican steal your remote? Turn the channel. Or even better, turn off the TV. That is the proper market response.

 

[aurareturn]

This thread is ridiculous and so is the OP.

Grow a brain and get a perspective please. Not everyone can just learn a language like that working 50 hours a week and taking care of the family. It's extremely hard, near impossible, for someone who is older than 25 to really learn a new language and use it effectively.

And no, they don't have to learn our culture and shouldn't. Our culture isn't the best culture there is. They have their own culture, and Americans have their own. Why should they be forced to become what we are?

 

[BoomerD]

Originally posted by: Rogodin2
The hispanic population is doing what white people won't do, they work the land for the large ag corporations for wages that you won't work for.

If you're pissed off then grow your own food.

Rogo

Rogo...here's where you & I differ...

YES, they do work that MOST American's won't do for the wages paid, BUT, many would do if the pay was better.
Unfortunately, they don't stick to ag jobs...they're in construction, restaurants, grocery stores, fast-food joints, anywhere that relatively unskilled labor is needed...
Here in Kahleeforneeya, it's gotten so bad that something like 50% of the residential construction is done by Mexican labor...not all of them qualified for the work, but they work cheaper than White people, and usually learn fairly quickly...if they want to keep their jobs...
Hell, the manager of the local Safeway's Bakery department was just deported for being an illegal immigrant...not exactly one of the "jobs that Americans don't want."