Help me debunk this from a mini deplorable

Feb 4, 2009
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Basically a repository Doctor at a School Board meeting.
Highlights:
Masks are useless
CDC does not follow science
Vaccination does something that he isn’t clear about to the immune system but it sure sounded bad.


Now only evidence I need is during the last few weeks 0.1% of hospitalized COVID patients have been vaccinated.
Personally I don’t need more info than that.
*above figure may be slightly off I forgot if duration was days or weeks. Heard it on the radio.
 

BurnItDwn

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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In the 1800s masks started to catch on in factories to filter out particulate matter.
Around the turn of the century and early 1900s doctors started to wear masks during things like surgery to prevent spread of diseases.

For around 100 years, medical professionals have worn mask.
Why do they still wear masks if they dont help to prevent spread of communicable diseases?
 

Fenixgoon

Lifer
Jun 30, 2003
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Has that doctor conducted a comprehensive literature review? If so, let's see his/her results analysis and interpretation. I'm sure they'd be willing to provide the data because it's been proven. Right?
 
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Dumped her as a Facebook friend. I prefer to remember her as a fun girl who laughed a lot at work and had cool taste in music plus had a fun casual style about her.
Haven’t worked with her in 22 years but still have overlaps in friends.
I was alarmed the last two years with almost deplorable immigrant rants from her and frankly weird libertarian posts that contradict each other like “there should be no taxes” and them “support the Police”.

She wasn’t that irritating but her Doctor bullshit post forced me to decide.
 
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himkhan

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I'm at the hospital and don't have time to go past 10 seconds.... WHEN did it say he was a pulmonologist?

<<< ICU Intensivist who had a 6 year fellowship position in Pulmonary and Critical Care.

Many doctors aren't actually medical doctors or haven't practiced in direct patient care for years.

Will dissect his rant later. But Cliffs sound like he's a fucking retard.
 

woolfe9998

Lifer
Apr 8, 2013
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Basically a repository Doctor at a School Board meeting.
Highlights:
Masks are useless
CDC does not follow science
Vaccination does something that he isn’t clear about to the immune system but it sure sounded bad.


Now only evidence I need is during the last few weeks 0.1% of hospitalized COVID patients have been vaccinated.
Personally I don’t need more info than that.
*above figure may be slightly off I forgot if duration was days or weeks. Heard it on the radio.

Multiple studies show that masks reduce the risk of COVID transmission.

He makes a rather spurious point about the vaccine, suggesting that if the vaccine is so effective, why are we seeing a surge? We're seeing a surge because delta is more infectious than previous strains. But we're also seeing a higher ratio of cases:deaths ,meaning the observable death rate has declined versus the earlier period of COVID. That is because only about .5% of deaths are among the vaccinated, and half the population is vaccinated. Meaning the vaccine is dramatically lowering the death rate.

This guy is purposefully spreading misinformation. He doesn't sound dumb enough to actually believe what he's saying.
 
Feb 4, 2009
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I'm at the hospital and don't have time to go past 10 seconds.... WHEN did it say he was a pulmonologist?

<<< ICU Intensivist who had a 6 year fellowship position in Pulmonary and Critical Care.

Many doctors aren't actually medical doctors or haven't practiced in direct patient care for years.

Will dissect his rant later. But Cliffs sound like he's a fucking retard.

summarizing, I typed that from memory and he very well could be a different kind of Doctor.

Edit: he speaks rather fast and audio is hard to understand at the beginning. He is a something-something family Doctor who covers immunization and respiratory stuff *I think* sort sounded like one big slur to keep his word pace rapid.
 
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CDC does not follow science

lol they really don't follow science. They follow whatever the mob is currently say - as evidenced in my thread about masks.

There was an entire timeline where the CDC kept saying different statements - and then flip-flopping the next month.

They sincerely have zero clue what they are doing and are just pissing in the wind and HOPING that the wind blows it in a different direction.
 
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pauldun170

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Basically a repository Doctor at a School Board meeting.
Highlights:
Masks are useless
CDC does not follow science
Vaccination does something that he isn’t clear about to the immune system but it sure sounded bad.


Now only evidence I need is during the last few weeks 0.1% of hospitalized COVID patients have been vaccinated.
Personally I don’t need more info than that.
*above figure may be slightly off I forgot if duration was days or weeks. Heard it on the radio.



It is my job to use basic science, clinical science and rigorous scientific method to teach you your health's future, the methods, risks and benefits of changing that future, and executing the plan you choose to achieve your definition of "good healthcare." It is not my job to decide what is "good for you" or how much your vision of health is worth. I take no incentives from insurers, governments, hospitals, drug companies, supplement makers, labs or anyone else. I offer both traditional and integrative medical analysis and treatment. I know most clinical guidelines, but my advice will not be limited to advising you only of those guidelines, and I don't make any money from adhering to those guidelines. I'll take your condition to cure, meaning I try to make you biochemically identical to the point in life where you felt your best and had the lowest risk of that changing

After graduating Arsenal Technical High School in Indianapolis, and graduating Suma Cum Laude from the University of Notre Dame, I graduated from Indiana University School of Medicine, and finished a rotating internship at Saint Vincent Hospital before entering Family Practice. Since then I have practiced family medicine for over 29 years, both as part of small practices, large health networks, and employer clinics. I am a Founding Diplomate of the American Board of Clinical Lipidology and Board Certified by the American Board of Anti-Aging and Regenerative Medicine. I studied a summer as an Extern in Plastic Surgery, and so perform almost all office based surgical procedures.

From the youtube comments
I'm not convinced many people are reading those studies because they either directly undercut the basis of his opinion. At best, they just point to existing science that no one disagrees with. And one of the links to thefederalist is basically just an opinion piece that tries to pass itself off as a convincing review but isn't? His opinion is not supported by the scientific consensus or any of the studies I could find on the subject. His opinion isn't even supported by his own citations.
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Moonbeam

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Nothing draws attention like an absurd statement delivered as if it were the God's honest truth. People have the darnedest time containing themselves when exposed to the absurd. There is so much self hate in the world it comes out either as a deep need for attention, negative better than nothing, and contempt for oneself because we have all been made as children to feel like fools and transfer that hate of our foolish selves onto others so we can hate them instead. When we are walking our dogs in the park in the fresh air and natural beauty, we have a far healthier mentality than either of these.
 

nickqt

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lol they really don't follow science. They follow whatever the mob is currently say - as evidenced in my thread about masks.

There was an entire timeline where the CDC kept saying different statements - and then flip-flopping the next month.

They sincerely have zero clue what they are doing and are just pissing in the wind and HOPING that the wind blows it in a different direction.
You're a ridiculously hilarious idiot.

Keep posting nonsense you fucking moron. The comic relief of the shitshow you vote for is welcome.
 
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VW MAN

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lol they really don't follow science. They follow whatever the mob is currently say - as evidenced in my thread about masks.

There was an entire timeline where the CDC kept saying different statements - and then flip-flopping the next month.

They sincerely have zero clue what they are doing and are just pissing in the wind and HOPING that the wind blows it in a different direction.
^^This is the kind of post only a moron makes after he stuck 3 of his own fingers really far up his ass. Pulling out those shit filled digits, he holds them up to his nose and takes many really deep long slow breaths holding each intake in his lungs for several seconds. His brain starts to tingle, the blood rushes though his body as his pulse quickens. Without even trying to clean whatever drying fecal matter that remains on his fingers, but after the strongest parts of the smell has worn off, he grabs his shit stained keyboard and proceeds to post any string of words that come to mind, mouthing each one as he types, spittle flying everywhere.

In other words, nothing but another of nobodysminds meaningless shit posts.

Way too graphic and scatalogical.

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Vic

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If masks are useless for preventing the transmission of disease, then why have doctors been wearing them for exactly that purpose for more than 100 years?
And what standing does an anti-vaxxer have to say that the CDC doesn't follow science?
 
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Vic

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lol they really don't follow science. They follow whatever the mob is currently say - as evidenced in my thread about masks.

There was an entire timeline where the CDC kept saying different statements - and then flip-flopping the next month.

They sincerely have zero clue what they are doing and are just pissing in the wind and HOPING that the wind blows it in a different direction.

Newsflash for you, dipshit. The anti-vaxxing Qanon crowd is the science-hating mob. MAGAs with their attempts to violently overturn an election they lost are the radical extremist mob. Lying trolls like you are the the mob. If only because you criticize without ever providing a better solution, not even in hindsight.
 

MixMasterTang

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lol they really don't follow science. They follow whatever the mob is currently say - as evidenced in my thread about masks.

There was an entire timeline where the CDC kept saying different statements - and then flip-flopping the next month.

They sincerely have zero clue what they are doing and are just pissing in the wind and HOPING that the wind blows it in a different direction.
Let me guess, when Dr. Fauci was originally asked about mask mandates he said they were not needed at that time, but then 2 months later after a ton of stuff changed he and the CDC announced mask mandates were needed, is what you are referring to?
 

BoomerD

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Let me guess, when Dr. Fauci was originally asked about mask mandates he said they were not needed at that time, but then 2 months later after a ton of stuff changed he and the CDC announced mask mandates were needed, is what you are referring to?


The deplorables believe this shit:



Never mind that as more was learned about the virus, the science changed...as did recommendations for how to deal with it.
 

compcons

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Let me guess, when Dr. Fauci was originally asked about mask mandates he said they were not needed at that time, but then 2 months later after a ton of stuff changed he and the CDC announced mask mandates were needed, is what you are referring to?
It's almost like this NOVEL virus was new and the scientists, doctors, and CDC were learning about it and making recommendations in near real-time. And almost like the CDC was being directed to say/do things based on input from their crazy, narcissist leadership to make Trump look better for his disastrous handling of the pandemic.

Also, ignore that the current guidance is elatively consistent when the situation is consistent and conversely when things change (like surges and variants), the guidance changes. It's almost like competency.

So complicated for Simple Minds.
 

nickqt

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It's almost like this NOVEL virus was new and the scientists, doctors, and CDC were learning about it and making recommendations in near real-time. And almost like the CDC was being directed to say/do things based on input from their crazy, narcissist leadership to make Trump look better for his disastrous handling of the pandemic.

Also, ignore that the current guidance is elatively consistent when the situation is consistent and conversely when things change (like surges and variants), the guidance changes. It's almost like competency.

So complicated for Simple Minds.
Conservatives are faith based, and their faith never changes. Libtards and scientists are beta cucks because they might change their mind depending on the information they receive.

January 6th was an Antifa/BLM false-flag operation run by Nancy Pelosi, Ben Ghazi, and a Soros-Comet Pizza consortium of Deep State socialists who brainwashed Ashli Babbitt in a Jade Helm controlled Walmart to be a martyr. It's why they're so dead-set against investigating it. You have to do your own research to see it, otherwise you're just a sheeple Progressivshik.
 
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