Help me decide on my new amp for my work system :P

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Originally posted by: montypythizzle

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello

Originally posted by: montypythizzle
Eh, fuck it jello, I was testing them, my mom said "Monty, you better shut that shit off!~!!!" So...

I guess the 65 Hz resonance of the whole house didn't impress her, the full power of the 15's will wait.


I guess I knocked some pictures off of her wall in her bedroom that adjoins our room. I could only do that with certain songs with my Onkyo.

So you're going to just stick with them instead of getting a sub?

No. I still think just getting the BIC for my main system (these fronts are too big as of now, may just get some Polk R50s but they will complement my sub for now) and get one of the Daytons for my computer system.
Sound good?

It's too bad you're throwing out the Onkyo sub basically to buy two new subs, but yeah that should work.

I haven't heard the BIC sub so I'm not really sure how it compares to the Dayton Lineup. I can't help but think that for the same price as the BIC (~$280 shipped), you could get two of the 12" daytons.

The specs on the BIC and the Daytons are pretty similar with 150watt RMS amps, ~40 pounds total weight, 12" drivers, very similar stated frequency response, similar cabinet size...

If the dayton sub is using the driver I think it is, it's also going to be more sensitive than the BIC so could possibly even have more output than the BIC if they're both amp limited vs. driver excursion / high distortion being the biggest factor limiting output. With two Daytons giving you equal output, I think you would certainly be able to surpass the BIC.

If it were me buying $280 worth of sub for your situation I'd be going with a couple of the 12" daytons for your main system. Having a system with two subs now, I think that's a good reason to go other than simply higher output capabilities as well.

 

[montypythizzle]

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello

Originally posted by: montypythizzle

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello

Originally posted by: montypythizzle
Eh, fuck it jello, I was testing them, my mom said "Monty, you better shut that shit off!~!!!" So...

I guess the 65 Hz resonance of the whole house didn't impress her, the full power of the 15's will wait.


I guess I knocked some pictures off of her wall in her bedroom that adjoins our room. I could only do that with certain songs with my Onkyo.

So you're going to just stick with them instead of getting a sub?

No. I still think just getting the BIC for my main system (these fronts are too big as of now, may just get some Polk R50s but they will complement my sub for now) and get one of the Daytons for my computer system.
Sound good?

It's too bad you're throwing out the Onkyo sub basically to buy two new subs, but yeah that should work.

I haven't heard the BIC sub so I'm not really sure how it compares to the Dayton Lineup. I can't help but think that for the same price as the BIC (~$280 shipped), you could get two of the 12" daytons.

The specs on the BIC and the Daytons are pretty similar with 150watt RMS amps, ~40 pounds total weight, 12" drivers, very similar stated frequency response, similar cabinet size...

If the dayton sub is using the driver I think it is, it's also going to be more sensitive than the BIC so could possibly even have more output than the BIC if they're both amp limited vs. driver excursion / high distortion being the biggest factor limiting output. With two Daytons giving you equal output, I think you would certainly be able to surpass the BIC.

If it were me buying $280 worth of sub for your situation I'd be going with a couple of the 12" daytons for your main system. Having a system with two subs now, I think that's a good reason to go other than simply higher output capabilities as well.

Hmm, sounds good though, 2 12"s for the lower end and the two 15"s in the fronts, I think that will be MORE than enough bass.

I just played this one song with a ~55-65 bass line throughout the whole song, and when it went the sub went back to go to the bass line the cabinet it's self went backwards..... Is this normal? I have them on towels right now (wood floor), I think these really need some rubber feet.

Too bad with this future setup with the 50" plasma and the audio setup I can only watch when my parents are gone.

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Originally posted by: montypythizzle

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello

Originally posted by: montypythizzle

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello

Originally posted by: montypythizzle
Eh, fuck it jello, I was testing them, my mom said "Monty, you better shut that shit off!~!!!" So...

I guess the 65 Hz resonance of the whole house didn't impress her, the full power of the 15's will wait.


I guess I knocked some pictures off of her wall in her bedroom that adjoins our room. I could only do that with certain songs with my Onkyo.

So you're going to just stick with them instead of getting a sub?

No. I still think just getting the BIC for my main system (these fronts are too big as of now, may just get some Polk R50s but they will complement my sub for now) and get one of the Daytons for my computer system.
Sound good?

It's too bad you're throwing out the Onkyo sub basically to buy two new subs, but yeah that should work.

I haven't heard the BIC sub so I'm not really sure how it compares to the Dayton Lineup. I can't help but think that for the same price as the BIC (~$280 shipped), you could get two of the 12" daytons.

The specs on the BIC and the Daytons are pretty similar with 150watt RMS amps, ~40 pounds total weight, 12" drivers, very similar stated frequency response, similar cabinet size...

If the dayton sub is using the driver I think it is, it's also going to be more sensitive than the BIC so could possibly even have more output than the BIC if they're both amp limited vs. driver excursion / high distortion being the biggest factor limiting output. With two Daytons giving you equal output, I think you would certainly be able to surpass the BIC.

If it were me buying $280 worth of sub for your situation I'd be going with a couple of the 12" daytons for your main system. Having a system with two subs now, I think that's a good reason to go other than simply higher output capabilities as well.

Hmm, sounds good though, 2 12"s for the lower end and the two 15"s in the fronts, I think that will be MORE than enough bass.

I just played this one song with a ~55-65 bass line throughout the whole song, and when it went the sub went back to go to the bass line the cabinet it's self went backwards..... Is this normal? I have them on towels right now (wood floor), I think these really need some rubber feet.

Too bad with this future setup with the 50" plasma and the audio setup I can only watch when my parents are gone.

I'm having a hard time understanding exactly what you mean by reading that, but you're saying the cabinets were vibrating enough to physically move backwards? Something other than towels would keep them stationary better.

What kind of bass management are you using for the system right now?

 

[montypythizzle]

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello

Originally posted by: montypythizzle

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello

Originally posted by: montypythizzle

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello

Originally posted by: montypythizzle
Eh, fuck it jello, I was testing them, my mom said "Monty, you better shut that shit off!~!!!" So...

I guess the 65 Hz resonance of the whole house didn't impress her, the full power of the 15's will wait.


I guess I knocked some pictures off of her wall in her bedroom that adjoins our room. I could only do that with certain songs with my Onkyo.

So you're going to just stick with them instead of getting a sub?

No. I still think just getting the BIC for my main system (these fronts are too big as of now, may just get some Polk R50s but they will complement my sub for now) and get one of the Daytons for my computer system.
Sound good?

It's too bad you're throwing out the Onkyo sub basically to buy two new subs, but yeah that should work.

I haven't heard the BIC sub so I'm not really sure how it compares to the Dayton Lineup. I can't help but think that for the same price as the BIC (~$280 shipped), you could get two of the 12" daytons.

The specs on the BIC and the Daytons are pretty similar with 150watt RMS amps, ~40 pounds total weight, 12" drivers, very similar stated frequency response, similar cabinet size...

If the dayton sub is using the driver I think it is, it's also going to be more sensitive than the BIC so could possibly even have more output than the BIC if they're both amp limited vs. driver excursion / high distortion being the biggest factor limiting output. With two Daytons giving you equal output, I think you would certainly be able to surpass the BIC.

If it were me buying $280 worth of sub for your situation I'd be going with a couple of the 12" daytons for your main system. Having a system with two subs now, I think that's a good reason to go other than simply higher output capabilities as well.

Hmm, sounds good though, 2 12"s for the lower end and the two 15"s in the fronts, I think that will be MORE than enough bass.

I just played this one song with a ~55-65 bass line throughout the whole song, and when it went the sub went back to go to the bass line the cabinet it's self went backwards..... Is this normal? I have them on towels right now (wood floor), I think these really need some rubber feet.

Too bad with this future setup with the 50" plasma and the audio setup I can only watch when my parents are gone.

I'm having a hard time understanding exactly what you mean by reading that, but you're saying the cabinets were vibrating enough to physically move backwards? Something other than towels would keep them stationary better.

What kind of bass management are you using for the system right now?

Correct, I tried to isolate them from vibrating on the floor, so I put a folded towel under each one. I need some rubber feet for them. The Onkyo had the only four feet I had left, so that is isolated from the floor. I just need some little rubber feet. (do they sell them at Wal-Mart or any hardware street, I guess yes)

Sorry for confusing you Jello


BTW, the guy that I got these speakers from was going to replace these with Pioneers or Kilpschs, I steered him to your general audio topic for alternatives.

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Originally posted by: montypythizzle

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello

Originally posted by: montypythizzle

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello

Originally posted by: montypythizzle

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello

Originally posted by: montypythizzle
Eh, fuck it jello, I was testing them, my mom said "Monty, you better shut that shit off!~!!!" So...

I guess the 65 Hz resonance of the whole house didn't impress her, the full power of the 15's will wait.


I guess I knocked some pictures off of her wall in her bedroom that adjoins our room. I could only do that with certain songs with my Onkyo.

So you're going to just stick with them instead of getting a sub?

No. I still think just getting the BIC for my main system (these fronts are too big as of now, may just get some Polk R50s but they will complement my sub for now) and get one of the Daytons for my computer system.
Sound good?

It's too bad you're throwing out the Onkyo sub basically to buy two new subs, but yeah that should work.

I haven't heard the BIC sub so I'm not really sure how it compares to the Dayton Lineup. I can't help but think that for the same price as the BIC (~$280 shipped), you could get two of the 12" daytons.

The specs on the BIC and the Daytons are pretty similar with 150watt RMS amps, ~40 pounds total weight, 12" drivers, very similar stated frequency response, similar cabinet size...

If the dayton sub is using the driver I think it is, it's also going to be more sensitive than the BIC so could possibly even have more output than the BIC if they're both amp limited vs. driver excursion / high distortion being the biggest factor limiting output. With two Daytons giving you equal output, I think you would certainly be able to surpass the BIC.

If it were me buying $280 worth of sub for your situation I'd be going with a couple of the 12" daytons for your main system. Having a system with two subs now, I think that's a good reason to go other than simply higher output capabilities as well.

Hmm, sounds good though, 2 12"s for the lower end and the two 15"s in the fronts, I think that will be MORE than enough bass.

I just played this one song with a ~55-65 bass line throughout the whole song, and when it went the sub went back to go to the bass line the cabinet it's self went backwards..... Is this normal? I have them on towels right now (wood floor), I think these really need some rubber feet.

Too bad with this future setup with the 50" plasma and the audio setup I can only watch when my parents are gone.

I'm having a hard time understanding exactly what you mean by reading that, but you're saying the cabinets were vibrating enough to physically move backwards? Something other than towels would keep them stationary better.

What kind of bass management are you using for the system right now?

Correct, I tried to isolate them from vibrating on the floor, so I put a folded towel under each one. I need some rubber feet for them. The Onkyo had the only four feet I had left, so that is isolated from the floor. I just need some little rubber feet. (do they sell them at Wal-Mart or any hardware street, I guess yes)

Sorry for confusing you Jello


BTW, the guy that I got these speakers from was going to replace these with Pioneers or Kilpschs, I steered him to your general audio topic for alternatives.

A hardware store should have what you need.

Yeah, Pioneer makes great TVs, but I think I'd steer away from them for audio needs
And Klipsch makes some great stuff but it's not for everyone.

 

[montypythizzle]

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello

Originally posted by: montypythizzle

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello

Originally posted by: montypythizzle

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello

Originally posted by: montypythizzle

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello

Originally posted by: montypythizzle
Eh, fuck it jello, I was testing them, my mom said "Monty, you better shut that shit off!~!!!" So...

I guess the 65 Hz resonance of the whole house didn't impress her, the full power of the 15's will wait.


I guess I knocked some pictures off of her wall in her bedroom that adjoins our room. I could only do that with certain songs with my Onkyo.

So you're going to just stick with them instead of getting a sub?

No. I still think just getting the BIC for my main system (these fronts are too big as of now, may just get some Polk R50s but they will complement my sub for now) and get one of the Daytons for my computer system.
Sound good?

It's too bad you're throwing out the Onkyo sub basically to buy two new subs, but yeah that should work.

I haven't heard the BIC sub so I'm not really sure how it compares to the Dayton Lineup. I can't help but think that for the same price as the BIC (~$280 shipped), you could get two of the 12" daytons.

The specs on the BIC and the Daytons are pretty similar with 150watt RMS amps, ~40 pounds total weight, 12" drivers, very similar stated frequency response, similar cabinet size...

If the dayton sub is using the driver I think it is, it's also going to be more sensitive than the BIC so could possibly even have more output than the BIC if they're both amp limited vs. driver excursion / high distortion being the biggest factor limiting output. With two Daytons giving you equal output, I think you would certainly be able to surpass the BIC.

If it were me buying $280 worth of sub for your situation I'd be going with a couple of the 12" daytons for your main system. Having a system with two subs now, I think that's a good reason to go other than simply higher output capabilities as well.

Hmm, sounds good though, 2 12"s for the lower end and the two 15"s in the fronts, I think that will be MORE than enough bass.

I just played this one song with a ~55-65 bass line throughout the whole song, and when it went the sub went back to go to the bass line the cabinet it's self went backwards..... Is this normal? I have them on towels right now (wood floor), I think these really need some rubber feet.

Too bad with this future setup with the 50" plasma and the audio setup I can only watch when my parents are gone.

I'm having a hard time understanding exactly what you mean by reading that, but you're saying the cabinets were vibrating enough to physically move backwards? Something other than towels would keep them stationary better.

What kind of bass management are you using for the system right now?

Correct, I tried to isolate them from vibrating on the floor, so I put a folded towel under each one. I need some rubber feet for them. The Onkyo had the only four feet I had left, so that is isolated from the floor. I just need some little rubber feet. (do they sell them at Wal-Mart or any hardware street, I guess yes)

Sorry for confusing you Jello


BTW, the guy that I got these speakers from was going to replace these with Pioneers or Kilpschs, I steered him to your general audio topic for alternatives.

A hardware store should have what you need.

Yeah, Pioneer makes great TVs, but I think I'd steer away from them for audio needs
And Klipsch makes some great stuff but it's not for everyone.

Yeah, their audio department is highly lacking, I got some little bookshelfs for ~40 and for 60 shipped I got the Polk R150s that rape them in.... EVERYTHING!!!

Then my bro-in-law has a Pioneer HTIB that doesn't even have a low level sub output, and the sub is a depleted 8" No bass

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Yeah, a lot of lower end HTIB type setups use an unpowered sub and just use the receiver to power everything.

There's certainly a market out there for the $100-$150 5.1 setup though for people looking for those two magic words "surround sound". Once you get above the $300 point though, there's very little excuse for not getting a decent system going even if it's only 2.0 to start with.

 

[RupTheKid]

don't forget about those Panasonic digital receivers...great value for the dollar.

 

[montypythizzle]

Originally posted by: RupTheKid
don't forget about those Panasonic digital receivers...great value for the dollar.

The XR-55 or w/e is the only one that is really highly praised, I want to see more reviews on it.

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Originally posted by: RupTheKid
don't forget about those Panasonic digital receivers...great value for the dollar.

Yeah, that would certainly make integrating a subwoofer easy later on if I decided to do that too.

 

[montypythizzle]

Ok, got the feet, I will probably take them apart tomorrow or maybe tonight to get that front set back on with liquid nails.

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Good luck

 

[montypythizzle]

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Good luck

Eh, letting it dry now...

This shit gets EVERYWHERE, looks like I skeeted all over my bed. It is also very sticky.

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Originally posted by: montypythizzle

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Good luck

Eh, letting it dry now...

This shit gets EVERYWHERE, looks like I skeeted all over my bed. It is also very sticky.

Well that's nice to know

 

[montypythizzle]

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello

Originally posted by: montypythizzle

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Good luck

Eh, letting it dry now...

This shit gets EVERYWHERE, looks like I skeeted all over my bed. It is also very sticky.

Well that's nice to know

Damn, I put a lot on so it is slowly drying, guess I will see if it works tomorrow, don't want to risk it tonight, and besides the 'rents are sleeping.

I guess my Polk R150s will have to do tonight.

 

[montypythizzle]

IDK if I want to use it yet, it still feels cold, that may indicate that it is still drying, I don't want to do this more than one time so I am doing it good the first time. I put it all along the front just in case. Wish I could use some screws on this box ^_^.

 

[montypythizzle]

They have dried and are now being used for my 2.0 needs when the 'rents aren't home, w00t!!!!

Too bad I have to move them when being used for movies as my room is real small.......
I would take pics, but I don't want to look for my camera, and besides it uses floppy discs.....

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

So it works alright?

 

[montypythizzle]

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
So it works alright?

Apparently, I hear no rattle, besides the few 65hz notes that rattle the windows, so AFAIK they sound pretty decent, sound could be a little warmer but eh, all I listen to is rap and rock so....

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Originally posted by: montypythizzle

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
So it works alright?

Apparently, I hear no rattle, besides the few 65hz notes that rattle the windows, so AFAIK they sound pretty decent, sound could be a little warmer but eh, all I listen to is rap and rock so....

I'm glad it worked

 

[montypythizzle]

Yeah, now I am working nights, it means I don't have to listen to their shit anymore, ROFLMAO!!!
I used to get up at 5 o'clock, now I can get up at a respectable 12 in the afternoon and they can't bitch!!!! It is like it is summer again!!!!

About the build quality....

Eh, satisfactory for 350$ speakers these days, MDF, etc...

Crossovers consist of in-line capacitors...

Magnets on the 15"s are something I would expect on a 8" woofer, but I don't think these were made to be subwoofers that have excursions of 5 inches....

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
GRRRRRR

10 minutes outside and they just snap when I take them off my head :|

GRRRRRRx2
At least these still work.

Lousy 16 degree weather making them brittle

 

[montypythizzle]

/fail

Poor Jello Wonder if you can send back two RMAs at one time

In other news.... I am getting my Little Dot MK II++ from my Dad for Christmas, he still wants me to pay some for it, but it only makes me appreciate it more, besides, he has been sort of nice to me...

Wonder how well my SR-80s will sound with TOOBZZZ

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

I figure I'm being punished for something.

My amp and my two headphones started acting up but as long as my main system is ok, I'm happy.

My 280s are 5-6 years old so they're well out of warranty by now.