Help me diagnose this mental disorder

[Texashiker]

<serious thread>

There is this young man I know. He is 25 years old and seems to have these persistent issues.

Symptoms

Lazy
Does not care about appearance - poor posture, unkept hair, poor hygiene
Does not care about learning a trade or skill
Is unable to think of the future - as in being able to support himself with no skills
Does opposite what you ask him to, or does not do it at all
No drive to improve his standard of living
No drive to do anything besides sleep late and play video games

The doing opposite, or not doing what you as him is one of the worst issues. This has caused him to be fired from several jobs.

Is this just being lazy, or is it a real mental condition?

 

[highland145]

Who's feeding/sheltering him? His enabler?

 

[RearAdmiral]

Narcissist/contrarian/entitled?

Only thing that worries me is the not caring about the future. Idk if it's a condition so much as a "conditioning." Sounds like he needs a unique wake up call.

 

[PricklyPete]

I believe that is commonly referred to as ATOT disorder.

 

[Texashiker]

Who's feeding/sheltering him? His enabler?

He is living with his younger brother.

Over the past few years he has lived with various friends and family. The result is usually the same - lazy, does not want to work, gets kicked out, he calls someone to take him in.

Even in the face of being homeless, he has no desire to go to work, or learn a skill or trade.

 

[highland145]

I believe that is commonly referred to as ATOT disorder.

I didn't have it until I joined.

 

[Charles Kozierok]

Is he unhappy? Is he having trouble dealing with the real world?

If so -- and it sounds like it -- then he has a real problem. And since you care about him, you should encourage him to get real help from a qualified professional. (Easier said than done in many cases.)

 

[MixMasterTang]

Is he unhappy? Is he having trouble dealing with the real world?

If so -- and it sounds like it -- then he has a real problem. And since you care about him, you should encourage him to get real help from a qualified professional. (Easier said than done in many cases.)

Yep, sounds like depression, but of course nobody can tell for sure until he is checked out by a professional.

 

[Texashiker]

I believe that is commonly referred to as ATOT disorder.

??? Everyone on ATOT is rich and sleeps with a super model everynight.

Is he unhappy? Is he having trouble dealing with the real world?

If so -- and it sounds like it -- then he has a real problem. And since you care about him, you should encourage him to get real help from a qualified professional. (Easier said than done in many cases.)

I dont think he is happy.

To find happiness, you need to know what makes you happy (hobbies, relationships,,,etc).

How do you motivate someone that is not interested in anything? How can someone find something, if they have no interest in looking?

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

Sounds like it'll work itself out. He'll end up homeless and either wallow in his own feces or he'll man up and get a job.

 

[Charles Kozierok]

How do you motivate someone that is not interested in anything? How can someone find something, if they have no interest in looking?

This is a primary symptom of depression. And when it is serious enough to have major life impacts, it needs treatment.

Strongly encourage him to get help from someone who knows what they are doing. You're getting some spectacularly bad advice in this thread.

 

[PricklyPete]

I didn't have it until I joined.

It was just your destiny

 

[highland145]

It was just your destiny

Would have been fine if I'd already made my many millions. But since I haven't.....

Who's feeding/sheltering him? His enabler?

 

[Pantlegz]

sounds like a pothead

 

[Texashiker]

I might talk with the family see if we can get the guy to start college. There is a community college campus nearby.

We have talked to him about going to a psychiatrist, but he is opposed to anything with doctors.

The only other person I have ever known like this, was a schizophrenic who got into drugs and ended up killing himself.

 

[ibex333]

<serious thread>

There is this young man I know. He is 25 years old and seems to have these persistent issues.

Symptoms

Lazy
Does not care about appearance - poor posture, unkept hair, poor hygiene
Does not care about learning a trade or skill
Is unable to think of the future - as in being able to support himself with no skills
Does opposite what you ask him to, or does not do it at all
No drive to improve his standard of living
No drive to do anything besides sleep late and play video games

The doing opposite, or not doing what you as him is one of the worst issues. This has caused him to be fired from several jobs.

Is this just being lazy, or is it a real mental condition?

It's difficult to tell, but there is obviously something wrong, although it might not be too serious and might not be anything that would qualify as a "true" mental disorder. It may be a mild form of depression or he might be doing drugs. Even something like weed can be causing such attitudes.

Should be relatively easy to check if he is indeed sick or just plain lazy.

1)Take away computer, consoles, and games. Sell them, buy him a pullup bar instead. ; )
2)Start feeding very little, say - "Wanna eat "enough"? You have to earn the money for it and go buy it."


But on a serious note... Has anyone tried talking to him? Find out WHY he is so apathetic and indifferent? Doesn't he want to look good? Meet a nice girl, etc, etc... It could answer a lot of questions.

 

[Texashiker]

But on a serious note... Has anyone tried talking to him? Find out WHY he is so apathetic and indifferent? Doesn't he want to look good? Meet a nice girl, etc, etc... It could answer a lot of questions.

Nobody seems to be able to get answers out of him as to why he acts the way he does.

Ask him to do a job, he does not do it. Ask him why he did not do the job, he says "I dont know".

Simple things, like buttoning the top buttons of his shirt so his chest hair does not show is a fight.

As soon as your back is turned he goes back to acting irresponsible. If you want him to do anything, you have to stand over him the whole time to make sure he is doing the job.

People that know him think he has some kind of Sociopathy disorder. He will do whatever he can to disrupt those around him.

I do not think its drugs. He has no money to buy drugs.

Over the past few years he has probably lived with 3 or 4 people, and got kicked out every time.

One time when he had a job, he was on the way to work one day, did not stop at a stop sign, and hit a car. Nobody was hurt, but he got a ticket for failure to yield. He did not take care of the ticket and the police arrested him.

Its like the guy has a total disregard for everyone around him, including the law.

 

[mchammer187]

Has he always been like this?

Did he graduate high school/college?

 

[KMc]

This behavioral condition is called "teenage boy". My sister currently has three of these.

 

[Texashiker]

Has he always been like this?

Pretty much, yea.

Did he graduate high school/college?

No, he did not finish high school.

 

[Sust]

Not that there's a treatment for it, but ASD?

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

It sounds like the people I know who grew up in the system or were ignored by their parents. Is there anything he's compulsive about? The one thing they all had in common is the inability to function without a strict structure. Some are very intelligent but, cannot apply themselves without being forced to. Most seek out some kind of structure.

 

[highland145]

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[Texashiker]

I logged back in to quote myself because you didn't answer.

I did answer you, he is living with his brother.

 

[IHateMyJob2004]

Sounds like his life is out of control and has no focus. And he is in denial about it. i've been in funks like that for long periods of time in my life but it only lasts a few months at worse. This is years which is shocking to me.